This sums up Sosuave (and every other community for that matter)

[Trader]

No, when the girl starts to take a stand to you like that, becomes insulting or hits you, you need to lay down the law.

You can backhand the girl, you can grab her forcefully, you can raise your voice, you can turn your back and leave untill she starts apologising. Whatever is your style.

Agreed. You have to have boundaries, cross this line, and there are *consequences.*

Backbreaker engaging in make-up sex, does not qualify as *laying* down the law.

Put yourself in Backbreaker's shoes, would you even be in the right state of mind to have makeup sex after your gf just cussed you out and physically hit you, and hit you hard? That is just messed up.

So you have experience in dating HB's and your a virgin, I'm curious is that spiritual reason or personal? not harping on you.

I am a Christian, and the Bible clearly states to have sex only in marriage. To try and sex girls would make me a hypocrite, and as you know, hypocrisy (do as I say, not as I do) is the antithesis of masculinity.

Personally where do you meet these HB's, there tons of threads here on a weekly basis on guys trying to do what you just stated, meeting HB's and building a social circle.

I meet them through church, and through friends of friends. It really just snowballs. You have a friend and you go to his *hangout* and there you meet more girls, and cool guys. There was this HB8 that I met, who was roommates with my female friend. And since my female friend already thought highly of me, and made that known in front of her roommate, obviously that was the best form of DHV.

But since your expertise is in relationships I'd be curious to know how you hold the "frame" without any sex, are the girl you dating virgins? and if not does not having any sex create any conflict?

The last HB8+ I dated, was my former classmate and the hottest girl in my graduate program, she knew I was a Christian, so expectations were very clear. And what is fascinating is this, to maintain your convictions is ridiculously masculine and girls get off on that. She obviously was not a virgin (she was a non-Christian) but she respected that I had the balls to stand up for my beliefs, even when she wore this skin-tight pink top with a push-up bra on one of our dates.

The bottom line is this, she might not agree with your values per se, but she values your masculinity. Most guys stand for nothing and fall for everything, thus a man who does stand for something shines brightly for all the girls to admire.

 

[Solomon]

That's cool, I consider myself a christian as well and yes I've had sex in the past, so I've got the utmost respect for someone who is taking the path less traveled. Do I consider a man a hypocrite who has sex with women but believes in Jesus?

It truly depends on the circumstances, we are all humans and we got desires, even David fell by committing adultery with Bathsheba, and God said he was a "man after my own heart"

But that's another topic and thread, which hopefully we can discuss on this forum in civility and peace,it's nice to know there are men of God posting in these forums, not only talk the talk but walk the walk.

 

[Jitterbug]

I have a hard time believing anything backbreaker says. He used to get into the Health & Fitness forum claiming some insane lifts that'd put him way over world records in powerlifting. When we asked him for some proofs, as you naturally do when someone makes a huge claim, he threw a tantrum and left the section. He got mad because we didn't automatically believe him.

It's a hell lot easier to BS about dating & relationship stuff. Not so easy when you're claiming lifts that are far beyond the capability of well established & recognised champions.

 

[cordoncordon]

I have a hard time believing anything backbreaker says. He used to get into the Health & Fitness forum claiming some insane lifts that'd put him way over world records in powerlifting. When we asked him for some proofs, as you naturally do when someone makes a huge claim, he threw a tantrum and left the section. He got mad because we didn't automatically believe him.

It's a hell lot easier to BS about dating & relationship stuff. Not so easy when you're claiming lifts that are far beyond the capability of well established & recognised champions.

Well like i said BB is very VERY sensitive to criticism. Leaving the site for a while after he gets mad is par for the coarse with him. What is odd is, I do like the guy. He's a smart guy. But he just takes things way to far. And yeah he does tend to exaggerate. We got into it one time a few years ago over some horse bets he claimed to have made and won on. Being a long time race horse owner and trainer myself, I knew BS when I saw it. Of course that was one of the times he then got mad and left the site lol.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Well like i said BB is very VERY sensitive to criticism. Leaving the site for a while after he gets mad is par for the coarse with him. What is odd is, I do like the guy. He's a smart guy. But he just takes things way to far. And yeah he does tend to exaggerate. We got into it one time a few years ago over some horse bets he claimed to have made and won on. Being a long time race horse owner and trainer myself, I knew BS when I saw it. Of course that was one of the times he then got mad and left the site lol.

I'm with Cordonx2 on this.

Yes, Backy left because we didn't respect the way he responded to his wife smacking the sh!t out of him. His insecurity showed when he made 10 plus paragraphs explaining WHY she was justified in hitting him. He talked too much, as if to cover up a serious offense or to downplay it.

Back's problem was he was great at giving advice. At times he lived by example. However he was really BAD at taking constructive criticism and when we didn't agree with how he handled things (why post in a FORUM if you can't take open dialog?) he left.

He was just too damn sensitive too. Another time when some anonymous guy said something in passing about his mom Back threatened to knock his teeth out or some stupid sh!t like that. Childish.

We're not all single minded here. There is no solid formula to how we go about life and happiness. We make mistakes and we take the advice that's given to us. Or we leave. Good riddance.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I'll repeat this for the newbies here who haven't been around for years. Backbreaker has left this site and come back many many times over the years. It is always the same thing. He starts a thread, he gets mad when people disagree with him, says he's leaving the site for good, then shows up a few months later. He'll be back.

BTW, I like BB, but lets stop with the hero worship and the praising of the move he made when in reality, he just took his ball and went home. For the 5th time.

Absolute cosign. You are 100% correct.

This is a tough neighborhood, and we've all had our share of beatdowns here at SS, myself included. I've learned to not give even the tiniest sh!t about negative responses, unless I am genuinely corrected. I rarely respond to the flak that gets shot my way. This is the Internet, where kbj's are at their "bravest".

It always strikes me as a little sad, though, that we fight like girls when behind the keyboard. When men discuss in-person, there are certain unwritten rules of engagement that we follow. There usually exists a civility and mutual respect when ideas are being discussed in-person, even when we vehemently disagree. That is manhood. Warriors who still fight with a certain respect extended to the other party. Here on the Internet, all that goes out the window and labeling, name-calling, and utter trashing are the rule of law. Optimist that I am, I think that this will slowly change as we men realize that we are not enemies; that we need to band together to learn to deal with the horrible societal contrivances that we find ourselves up against in this unique period in history.

There is such a wide diversity of people here and such a wide range of maturity levels that most posts that cause people to think or reconsider are going to generate flames. Sometimes it gets a little too warm in here for BB and others. When I get sick of this site, I leave it for a while. No announcement, no drama, I just leave and nobody misses me, that's for sure. That's not anything to be applauded or even noticed. It's just me living life.

BB is nowhere near the level of a Pook or others in that league. He certainly gave some good advice, but you sometimes had to wade through a plethora of words to get to it. He will most certainly be back once he licks his wounds.

I see that I am soapboxing a little here. I hope I don't get flamed!!!

 

[Atom Smasher]

BTW, where is the post of this hitting and make-up incident? I haven't seen it and I can't find it when searching through his posts. Cut me a break, I'm an old-timer.

 

[cordoncordon]

BTW, where is the post of this hitting and make-up incident? I haven't seen it and I can't find it when searching through his posts. Cut me a break, I'm an old-timer.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=177017&highlight=backbreaker

 

[Atom Smasher]

Double post.

 

[Solomon]

He was just too damn sensitive too. Another time when some anonymous guy said something in passing about his mom Back threatened to knock his teeth out or some stupid sh!t like that. Childish..

Ha! that's funny that guy was me, I remember hims saying something about her and her scandalous behavior in a thread, and I just kept it real, and dude thought I was calling his moms a slut. I send him a pm to "smooth" it out and he didn't respond.

Reading comprehension goes a long way, and less ego goes even further

 

[DanelMadr]

Honestly when I saw that thread I thought it was a 18 year old virgin not a 36 year old.....

I never meant it to be dead serious. But I honestly can't see why would you think that.