This should end it all: Racial Hierarchy of (us) Men to women across the world.

[Postmalonelistener]

With race threads, you just never win because you have the following group of people.

Depressed low value minorities.

Give them anything depressing to cling to, they will cling to it all day everyday. Never worked for much in their life, blame whitey for their problems, love playing victim, and probably fits OP to a tee. You cannot tell them anything or show them any proof to snap them out of it, it is why most expert dating coaches will not deal with the type and boot them. They commonly end up on incel forums and come off like ER.

White nationalist or gung ho white guys.

White pride left to right. Not the cream of the crop of the white race but will promote it at every turn throughout the forum. Will claim how all white men are so desirable yet are 50-something stuck on an internet forum without female attention. Likely go well below their league for women and burn whenever they see white women going interracial.

The optimistic minority who borderline hates whites.

Will claim how women the world over love his race and talk about how bad whites are. Meanwhile, cannot check his depressed brethrens crying about race.

Normal people.

Have to deal with this garbage day in and day out by depressed losers.

 

[GeeMale]

Oh lawd, it had to be a Georgia guy to post this didn't it, man this sstate brings out the aspiness of people lol. You know South Asians are Indians and Pakis right?

I'll say this about race as a white guy who fits into number 1 in your category and has had his deal of success. Everyone wants to say we have it handed to us and we are beneficiaries to white privilege, here is the reality, there is a reason why white guys do well. The truth is, white guys actually put in the work in the game to do well.

Women want men who are tall (you cannot control height for the most part), in good shape, socially adjusted, have passions/hobbies, and yes have money too. Now one other thing I'll add, women want men with a dominant and alpha mindset, some races have this and I would argue that while white males get a lot of flak, there are lots of us who are more than enough on the alpha end.

Why do Indian men and Arab men have it to so bad?

People forgot repressive cultures that make you beta as heck. Everyone forgot a complete disregard for athletics and looking good. Everyone forgets the super nice-guy easily bullied demeanor. People forget how most men already have their brides by birth so no need to chase women or anything.

Meanwhile I have seen Indian, Arab, and Asian men who beat the stereotypes and women were running to them.

It's like seeing an Asian girl with a nice a$$ or a black girl that is not ghetto AF/hyper aggressive, you have your appeal and your market. One of my Indian friends gets 100+ matches on Bumble and Tinder.

What did he do? Put in the work in the game like us white guys did instead of whining.

There is a black Muslim convert I saw interview with Rollo Tomassi on YouTube. Part of the reason he converted is because apparently Muslim/Middle eastern men tend to more on the 'alpha' side of things when it comes to behavior and their perspective on women. This has nothing to do with South Asian but more to do with Muslims. The guy even says he has followed the old tradition of having multiple wives(very rare for Muslim men and Muslim women to accept this these days...if you hear of it it'll be in some middle eastern country where it's legal/accepted...you're never going to see Muslim American no matter the race have multiple partners and wives being okay with sharing)

I kind of see your point on the white privilege and yes just like you I'm not a liberal. But please do admit that this racial heirachy is through an OLD website...the same place where you'll meet cows you thought were goddesses in their pics. Everything is going to be superficial/fantasy related....more than likely they all watch porn/fap a lot too and combiner with social media have a skewed view of things socially whether it's off by a tiny bit or an exaggeration.

As long as a guy is 'good looking'(women are kind of forgiving on looks more than men)has self-respect, likes his career, has friends and hobbies and dates women all the time consistently while learning and improving it, and improving all areas of his life.........it shouldn't be a problem getting with hot chick from another race.....of course looks can play heavilly if the chick is 8-9/10 but I've seen good looking women with guys we would think are 'below us' and good looking guys with ugly girls.....most likely cause he hasn't learned asking out hot women.

 

[Postmalonelistener]

There is a black Muslim convert I saw interview with Rollo Tomassi on YouTube. Part of the reason he converted is because apparently Muslim/Middle eastern men tend to more on the 'alpha' side of things when it comes to behavior and their perspective on women. This has nothing to do with South Asian but more to do with Muslims. The guy even says he has followed the old tradition of having multiple wives(very rare for Muslim men and Muslim women to accept this these days...if you hear of it it'll be in some middle eastern country where it's legal/accepted...you're never going to see Muslim American no matter the race have multiple partners and wives being okay with sharing)

I kind of see your point on the white privilege and yes just like you I'm not a liberal. But please do admit that this racial heirachy is through an OLD website...the same place where you'll meet cows you thought were goddesses in their pics. Everything is going to be superficial/fantasy related....more than likely they all watch porn/fap a lot too and combiner with social media have a skewed view of things socially whether it's off by a tiny bit or an exaggeration.

As long as a guy is 'good looking'(women are kind of forgiving on looks more than men)has self-respect, likes his career, has friends and hobbies and dates women all the time consistently while learning and improving it, and improving all areas of his life.........it shouldn't be a problem getting with hot chick from another race.....of course looks can play heavilly if the chick is 8-9/10 but I've seen good looking women with guys we would think are 'below us' and good looking guys with ugly girls.....most likely cause he hasn't learned asking out hot women.

Even online dating is kind of not as black and white as you may think (pun not intended). No offense but all of my Indian and Asian friens except for a few have terrible dating profiles full of selfies that just yell "nice guy". Then when they get no matches they cry racism.

As for Muslims, that culture is barbaric and women are treated like scum. There is a balance in it all and even then though, Muslim men from Arab countries do well enough.

 

[17 shots]

American Black males that are tall and fit do very well in dating and casual sex. But I really dont see many BM/XF marriages. It's actually quite rare even here in L.A.

Black males tend to be fetishized the same way Asian females are fetishized. The only difference is White men are marrying Asian females in droves but White women dont tend to marry Black males.

That's true too, I hate when a racial group gets labeled as a sex object from other groups of women/men, but it's good for finding quick sex/dating partnerships. And we all know Asian females with white men are the most common interracial relationship in the U.S. no doubt about it. Black men with white women is usually an fling like you said with a sexual relationship and sometimes dating as well. It usually stops there though, since less than 10% of white females go on to marry black men (more like 4-5%) where Asian females with white men is way more common (like maybe 20-30% of asian females date/marry white men.)

I'm not trying to argue what you guys are saying, because there is truth to it, a lot of times when different races of women get with black guys it's just a fling...but I think it should also be noted that black men aren't really big on the whole marriage thing with ANY race of women, including our own. We're usually just having flings with everybody lol

 

[GeeMale]

Even online dating is kind of not as black and white as you may think (pun not intended). No offense but all of my Indian and Asian friens except for a few have terrible dating profiles full of selfies that just yell "nice guy". Then when they get no matches they cry racism.

As for Muslims, that culture is barbaric and women are treated like scum. There is a balance in it all and even then though, Muslim men from Arab countries do well enough.

You wouldn't be offending me because it's their fault lol and it's actually a thing with all races what I'm going to tell you. Since they're you're friends you should let em know that a psychologist on youTube said the more guys get into porn/fap...the more submissive they become to women....thus nice guy syndrome is inevitable..of course with all things you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink it.....I tried to get my dad to go on Testosterone Replacement Therapy but he doesn't care for it lol

I also heard from cute Arab American women and Arab guys more than once that the 'barbaric' culture in middle east isn't what it really is from the stereotype...I can tell you even in India when I lived there 9 months in 2012....Depending on the state women look like they only go out in scarves and yet in Bombay they were dressed sexy with their friends and other guys at a lounge.....my uncle took me to a lounge which was cool..he isn't married(btw I peeked his phone once and saw hot Indian girls with skirt/long legs looking sexy) I think he felt bad I was having a culture shock and depressed I couldn't make friends.....he even drove me on motorcycle to and from ice skating date with a co-worker.......good guy

 

[Postmalonelistener]

If any meek minority group wants success, make a black friend. Black guys do not deal with any crap from white guys and it shows in the results. Here in Atlanta and in Chicago, even top notch white dudes are insecure with their girls around black dudes. When a Dez Bryant, Jon Jones, Chris Brown or Jeremy Meeks type of brotha steps into the building, even the most Chad white guys get insecure. Some of it can be put on media but I have seen it in the persona, black American men are alpha male persona at its highest core.

I've known Asian and Indian dudes who were able to pull from the positive traits of black men and saw a lot of results by having a black friend. You can go overboard and be a chigga though, those guys are trashy and only get ghetto black women that black men do not want. If you find a good black wingman though, man it can be one heck of a powerful team. It's like opposites attracting in a weird way, like Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan.

I have seen it with every Asian and Indian dude I knew who climbed to the top of the mountain to where they were cucking white guys in marriages. Being around people your own race is not bad due to stereotype, it is bad because your culture is unfit for the rough layout of the west and too meek. I have never seen an Asian or Indian guy with only friends of their own race do well.

 

[Postmalonelistener]

You wouldn't be offending me because it's their fault lol and it's actually a thing with all races what I'm going to tell you. Since they're you're friends you should let em know that a psychologist on youTube said the more guys get into porn/fap...the more submissive they become to women....thus nice guy syndrome is inevitable..of course with all things you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink it.....I tried to get my dad to go on Testosterone Replacement Therapy but he doesn't care for it lol

yeah that's the thing with you guys. you're stubborn, especially Indian dudes, no convincing you

The problem is, I only see white guys with good OLD profiles that have work put into them. Then everyone will start claiming "hurr durr white privilege" and not improve their profiles. I mean bathroom selfies bro...

 

[GeeMale]

yeah that's the thing with you guys. you're stubborn, especially Indian dudes, no convincing you

The problem is, I only see white guys with good OLD profiles that have work put into them. Then everyone will start claiming "hurr durr white privilege" and not improve their profiles. I mean bathroom selfies bro...

I know the stubborn you're talking about..part of it is refusing to self-improve in problem areas right? That's a nice guy trait as well...why do you think it's a racial thing being stubborn and not the guys putting in the work regardless of their race?

In my experience it's always mostly white and some black people who don't know how to coat their words when stereotyping South Asians(they never do this to me but like you tell me about these things in person time to time). What's the reason whites tend to do this the most?

 

[Postmalonelistener]

I know the stubborn you're talking about..part of it is refusing to self-improve in problem areas right? That's a nice guy trait as well...why do you think it's a racial thing being stubborn and not the guys putting in the work regardless of their race?

In my experience it's always mostly white and some black people who don't know how to coat their words when stereotyping South Asians(they never do this to me but like you tell me about these things in person time to time). What's the reason whites tend to do this the most?

Look dude, let's face it, plenty of YOUR kind are whining up on all the forums online and crying about race. I am trying to help you guys out here by saying its your attitude and yes, it is more race but more cultural issue. It's your freaking parents that make you whiny crybabies and do not raise you right. They neuter you through your youth bro.

Also, you can argue with me but if you were serious about cleaning up the reputation of your race, you and all the brown guys killing it would share your success stories than arguing. That is just fact bro.

 

[GeeMale]

yeah that's the thing with you guys. you're stubborn, especially Indian dudes, no convincing you

The problem is, I only see white guys with good OLD profiles that have work put into them. Then everyone will start claiming "hurr durr white privilege" and not improve their profiles. I mean bathroom selfies bro...

Believe it or not my white surgeon who worked on my finger back in July-October 2019 use to tell me these things. You seriously remind me of this guy....he was nerdy/cool but would stereotype hard..but only because I told him we can be real when we talk and I'll still keep things professional and not give bad reviews lol....when I brung up this topic. The hot white nurse practitioner went out of her way to tell him that we(most likely looking at me and thinking of me) can be attractive and how she'd date me if she wasn't married lol. Even made jokes how she'd want to ask her husband to share her with me which I wouldn't and let them know....she was hot...and a nurse practitioner...easy 8-9/10. I forgot to get her number when she agreed to hook me up with some friends of hers..I'll probably see her again if I decide to....the doctor (who's married too and looks like 40's-50's)cracked a joke about an Indian doctor with an accent he talks to downstairs if if like to hook up with her.....I think they were friends but j think he secretly has a thing for her even tho she's not good looking........doctors tend to hook up with doctors ..I know this from a medical school student ex of mine.

 

[GeeMale]

Look dude, let's face it, plenty of YOUR kind are whining up on all the forums online and crying about race. I am trying to help you guys out here by saying its your attitude and yes, it is more race but more cultural issue. It's your freaking parents that make you whiny crybabies and do not raise you right. They neuter you through your youth bro.

Also, you can argue with me but if you were serious about cleaning up the reputation of your race, you and all the brown guys killing it would share your success stories than arguing. That is just fact bro.

Yeah I've tried that with guys in my community who are around my age and younger...and will continue to bring it up if I feel like the guy isn't stubborn. I don't know about you but I don't have the patience to deal with people complain a lot and don't put in the work.....if guys can't change their own bad habits..what makes you think they can put in the work for women?

Some people are on these forums a little too much.. this shouldn't be a hideout or brag about whatever...most guys who the success you describe actually leave the forum forever and some may come back seldomly lol

 

[Good Gao]

The social value of Indian guys in recent years has gone through the roof to where I have regularly seen assimilated good looking ones get hot girls of all races, at least in Chicago and NYC. Back in 2005? Indian dude with white girl in a young cool crowd in Manhattan would have been unheard of. When I was in Manhattan in 2017? Saw a handful of brown guys that looked good making out with and with Asian and white girls that were hot as well as hot girls of their own races.

Yoga, spiritual stuff, movies like The Big Sick, all of that? Westerners are getting into that stuff. If I was Indian, man I would hit the gym, look good, and capitalize on that stuff hard. Yeah the dorky types will struggle but if you are a handsome Indian dude who seems cool, you got a pretty strong ceiling at least in Northeast and upper Midwest USA. Even when I have been down to the Dixie I've seen brown guys clean up.

In Poland when I visited? Indian men had a way higher SMV than Arabs and Turks because women saw them as sex tourists. Even Russian women I know who were hot love Indian dudes for some reason.

I'd say in the past 5 years or so, Indian and Asian guys have become almost even-footed in terms of female attention. The stock has shot all the way up and I put part of this on the immigrant groups climbing the social hierarchy in America and their kids being assimilated.

Who has it bad?

Arabs have it rough and I feel for em. Some even try but their sleazy attitudes and bad reputation do them in. Even then, I've seen Arab men do well with women so comes to show how any race can be overcome.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Look dude, let's face it, plenty of YOUR kind are whining up on all the forums online and crying about race. I am trying to help you guys out here by saying its your attitude and yes, it is more race but more cultural issue. It's your freaking parents that make you whiny crybabies and do not raise you right. They neuter you through your youth bro.

Also, you can argue with me but if you were serious about cleaning up the reputation of your race, you and all the brown guys killing it would share your success stories than arguing. That is just fact bro.

Yo my man, let's keep things civil, we're just have a honest discussion about race relations in the free market of dating. We don't want this thread shut down.

 

[Xenom0rph]

I just posted in another thread but I'll post it here as well:

White men are unique from other men because they have a safety net: the self-hating Asian female that would choose a fat balding White dude over a 9/10 Chang any day of the week. No other group of men have a safety net like this.

 

[GeeMale]

To be fair how is this topic even a dis

I just posted in another thread but I'll post it here as well:

White men are unique from other men because they have a safety net: the self-hating Asian female that would choose a fat balding White dude over a 9/10 Chang any day of the week. No other group of men have a safety net like this.

Lol you know what's funny? When I use to work in a call center there actually was a fat balding white dude mid 50's who I think was acting like OP...it took some time to realize it was him and not someone else cause when I'd look over my little cubicle of what I thought was a cool office job.... he wouldn't say anything. He was confident of his honest discussion yet I couldn't take him seriously because he didn't look like a Chad....

 

[Atom Smasher]

Race threads are not allowed. We let it go for a little while but now it's time to close it.