this is basically a rejection isn't it?

[blueline]

So, she never ended up getting back to me to chill this week, but you know what, I sometimes do that kind of **** with girls, too. However, I do feel a bit rejected.

I shouldn't really care because I banged a girl in an outside stairwell that I had just met at a bar 30 min ago last Wednesday, but I do care 'cause I have no options in this area :/.

I have two options: hope to run into her on Monday (good odds) before class and give her some more face to face time (obviously going to escalate) or just straight up call her tonight.

 

[Chickfight]

Again with the texts. Just call her tonight. If you can get her to actually pick up and go on a date with you, you're gonna have to bring your A game. Now would definitely be the time to try and raise your value by acting aloof and maybe some slight negs. Act as if you're testing her to see if she's even worth dating. You could even mind**** her and arrange a date and cancel it yourself. If it doesn't work out, which is likely at this point, take it with class and move on.

 

[blueline]

here's a quick question: is it a good idea to tell girls you met someone cool but they live too far away for it to work? i used to tell my ex gf that i was dating other girls all the time when we first started fucking.

i mean, she's gonna ask what i did this week, banging that 18 y/o yale girl in a stairwell was (the cops showed up, but we didn't receive a ticket, haha) the highlight of my week, lol. god dammit, i know i can't say that one.

 

[jophil28]

me (last monday): Hey smarty pants, so when are we grabbing a coffee? I'm available on most days after 4. -blueline

Yikes. Double cringe ^^

IN one sentence you gave her control over choosing the time and date, and also told her that you have no other options and you will make yourself available to meet with her at her convenience.
NO wonder she is not busting her azz to meet you, she knows that you are waiting and panting in the background .

Oh and just to rub it in further, how do you, "GRAB a coffee?"
Sounds messy .

Enuf said ?

 

[blueline]

Man, I don't read into things as much as you guys do when it comes to picking up, haha. You really think women read into texts like that?

However, when it comes to relationships, 90% of the time, you guys are right. So, I'm willing to hear what you have to say.

 

[Chickfight]

here's a quick question: is it a good idea to tell girls you met someone cool but they live too far away for it to work? i used to tell my ex gf that i was dating other girls all the time when we first started fucking.

i mean, she's gonna ask what i did this week, banging that 18 y/o yale girl in a stairwell was (the cops showed up, but we didn't receive a ticket, haha) the highlight of my week, lol. god dammit, i know i can't say that one.

I'd say it's a good thing to let a girl you're pursuing know that other girls are interested in you, I always do, but you have to be subtle about it. If you can't bring it naturally into your conversation, just leave it be. Here's an example:

Her: Oh hi blueline, what've you been up to the past week?
You: Oh not much, hung out with some friends. Had a bit of drama going on though.
Her: Oh really, what?
You: Well this one girl I kinda have a thing with was over for thanksgiving, but she got pissed because I told her I didn't want any kind of long distance thing.
Her: Oh, I'm sorry, long distance sucks.
You: Haha, it's okay, you win some you lose some. So what's up with you?
Her: bla bla bla.
You: Oh cool, Hey there's this rly cool party next friday, we have vip passes. Wanna be my date?

(THIS IS BY PHONE OR IN PERSON, NOT TEXT)

Mind fvck time!!
It doesn't matter that this party doesn't exist, because you're gonna CANCEL this date AND be purposefully evasive on why so she might think it's cause of some other girl (this you can do by text). Make her feel like she missed out. Voila, value raised, interest out the roof. Setting up the next date should be easy.

 

[blueline]

Very good, thanks man.

 

[jophil28]

Man, I don't read into things as much as you guys do when it comes to picking up, haha. You really think women read into texts like that?

It is not a matter of women "reading" things into texts.
Your first text sentence spelled it all out for all to see. You came off as almost pleading.

Whenever I hear a guy say to a woman, "So, when are we going out..." I cringe in embarrassment over his lack of fundamental comms skills.

 

[blueline]

Bah, she didn't pickup. Next flake gets next'd immediately as per usual and I'm not using that line again.

Man, wtf, you guys are right so much of the time. I guess the best I can do with this chick is give her some more face to face time and not give a fuck about her.

 

[blueline]

So, she texts me today saying she's sorry she didn't get back to me yesterday, she was on a family trip. I ask her out to go to the local tea shop tomorrow at 4 and she gives me some BS about having a paper due the next day and that we should do it another day this week. So, then I say "OK how about Tuesday at 6?" She responds with "Can I get back to you Tuesday morning? I might have too much work."

Learn how to reject dudes, ffs. It's very easy. Just say "my schedule is too full right now, maybe some other time." I already deleted her number. If she even gets back to me on Tuesday, she isn't getting a response.

 

[pipe007]

honestly, you made a mistake again

asking her out again, as soon as she replied.. and then asking again for another option day...

D.E.S.P.E.R.A.T.E she cringes in your desperation, and you repelled her.

of course she doesnt wanna go out with you, the way you insisted cried of neediness.

you should have just build attraction, maybe call her and be attractive and see if you can get a feel for her attraction level before you ask her out again in such a hurried way.

I would have done this
her: "sorry for not getting back, I was busy blabalbla"
me: "its cool, you gotta make it up to me though, now you owe me dinner "

and then go on into teasing her about how she should invite you, or whatever but i would have never asked her flat out to go with me after she flaked like that.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I'd say it's a good thing to let a girl you're pursuing know that other girls are interested in you, I always do, but you have to be subtle about it. If you can't bring it naturally into your conversation, just leave it be. Here's an example:

Her: Oh hi blueline, what've you been up to the past week?
You: Oh not much, hung out with some friends. Had a bit of drama going on though.
Her: Oh really, what?
You: Well this one girl I kinda have a thing with was over for thanksgiving, but she got pissed because I told her I didn't want any kind of long distance thing.
Her: Oh, I'm sorry, long distance sucks.
You: Haha, it's okay, you win some you lose some. So what's up with you?
Her: bla bla bla.
You: Oh cool, Hey there's this rly cool party next friday, we have vip passes. Wanna be my date?

(THIS IS BY PHONE OR IN PERSON, NOT TEXT)

Mind fvck time!!
It doesn't matter that this party doesn't exist, because you're gonna CANCEL this date AND be purposefully evasive on why so she might think it's cause of some other girl (this you can do by text). Make her feel like she missed out. Voila, value raised, interest out the roof. Setting up the next date should be easy.

Do you really think this is an effective idea?

I'm curious if others to do?

I try not to base my relationships, any, on BS straight lies...now a bit of lack of information...or a bit of emphasis of other information is one thing..ie, build wonder, market your strengths, be aloof...but I tend to think straight up pulling chains all over will backfire eventually, or at least embed some really bad habits for anything more than a short-term hookup.

 

[ENIGMA16]

her: "sorry for not getting back, I was busy blabalbla"
me: "its cool, you gotta make it up to me though, now you owe me dinner "

or just:

her: "sorry for not getting back, I was busy blabalbla"
me: "it's cool"

I have problems setting up dates too, dude. Every time I get a number I go to set up the date and it always ends up falling through.

 

[blueline]

honestly, you made a mistake again

asking her out again, as soon as she replied.. and then asking again for another option day...

D.E.S.P.E.R.A.T.E she cringes in your desperation, and you repelled her.

of course she doesnt wanna go out with you, the way you insisted cried of neediness.

you should have just build attraction, maybe call her and be attractive and see if you can get a feel for her attraction level before you ask her out again in such a hurried way.

I would have done this
her: "sorry for not getting back, I was busy blabalbla"
me: "its cool, you gotta make it up to me though, now you owe me dinner "

and then go on into teasing her about how she should invite you, or whatever but i would have never asked her flat out to go with me after she flaked like that.

I've done that sort of shit before and you're just milking water out of a nearly dry sponge when you get a date doing it. You'll probably even get flaked on again. I mean, she was the one saying "let's do it another day this week." Although, yeah I definitely realize the error in my ways. I'll save myself the embarrassment by canceling tomorrow afternoon and telling her I've got too many clients to deal with.

It's just ****ing frustrating. The even ****tier thing is that my ex-girlfriend is hotter than almost all of the girls that rejected me. 7/7 numbers I get this semester go nowhere (a few were social circle, so that makes it even more annoying). However, the three times I get action, there were no dates. For one, the girl basically setup an entire party to get me to come over. For the other, I banged some 18 y/o yale girl I just met 30 minutes ago in an outdoor stairwell. The other one, I talk to this girl at a party for 2 hours, really connect with her, and end up getting a ******* in the bushes behind the house. All these bitches need to do is show up on my date and things will get done.

 

[Igetit!]

So, she texts me today saying she's sorry she didn't get back to me yesterday, she was on a family trip. I ask her out to go to the local tea shop tomorrow at 4 and she gives me some BS about having a paper due the next day and that we should do it another day this week. So, then I say "OK how about Tuesday at 6?" She responds with "Can I get back to you Tuesday morning? I might have too much work.

What I don't understand about this exchange you had right here is WHY after all the flaking and excuses you've gotten from this girl....WHY did you just go right back to doing the same thing all over again,ESPECIALLY after getting that excellent advice from Chickfight?

I mean you yourself even said that his suggestion was "very good",so why did you ignore it and continue with the status quo?



In reply #25 you said that you're willing to hear what the forum has to say. So you get advice that YOU SAID was "very good",then the first opportunity you get to use that advice,you go right back to doing what has gotten you zero results?


I know my name is "Igetit!",but dude....I don't get this.



Pipe007 was right on the money. This girl has NO ATTRACTION for you whatsoever. How can she? You don't take the time to build any. Every interaction you have with her is you asking her out.



No busting on her,no teasing,no complimenting her (the right way),no sexual talk or inuuendos,no NOTHING. It's just "Hi",then "let's go get coffee tomorrow. No? Then how about the next day? Can't make it then? Well how about the day after that?.....and on and on and on.




All you're doing is showing desperation and boosting her ego,AND if this continues,YOU WILL CREATE an attention wh0re in her towards YOU. If she happens to go 2 or 3 days without any male attention and starts to feel unattractive or unwanted,she can simply send a text to "ole' reliabe,ole'trusty" Blueline who will in a instant ask her out and make her feel wanted again.




Then once she feels desirable again,she'll set you off to the side once more until she needs another "fix" of attention. And while ALL THIS is going on with you,she'll ACTIVELY be open and receptive to ANY OTHER GUY who creates attraction in her.





But you know what though? Despite allll that.....you may still have a chance with her. Imo,as long as you're not friendzoned,there's hope,BUT you need to change course QUICKLY.



You need to stop that "grab coffee/smarty pants" nonsense and get romantic/sexual. I didn't say vulgar or profane,I said sexual. You're playful,but your playfulness has no "ummmf",no "pow!",no "spark" to it.



Instead of talking to her like a MAN,you speak to her like you're in junior high or something. Stop tiptoeing and tap dancing around with that "you're fun to talk to" crap and TURN HER ON.



If you don't do this,all she'll do is go find someone who will.

 

[blueline]

oh i busted on her a bit, but i didn't post that 'cause it's just bull**** filler. it's funny, though, i've done this same exact **** where i essentially say hi and get dates. in the past (not this semester), it has worked with a few banging girls. it creates a lot of flakes, but look at it this way, paul janka has gotten something like 521 phone numbers in the last 9 months and 51 lays. he does basically the same thing where you just say hi via txt and ask them out. if they don't respond favorably, hit them up in a week or two.

while i'm nowhere near as efficient as he is, and with this girl i definitely txted too much and asked out too many times, i think that sort of system weeds out the girls with interest from the difficult ones. the girl decides whether or not she's going to fuck you in around 2 minutes of meeting you and there's nothing verbal game can do for you after that. it's all based on non-verbal first impressions and physical attractiveness. if she's interested, she will follow your dick through a fire to meet up with you.

so yeah, by my own theory, i've been rejected here.

 

[blueline]

I canceled on her last Monday. I saw her today (she didn't say hi, lol) and it turns out that she kinda has some thunder thighs on her. This is a mistake I make sometimes where I won't really check out the girl I'm gaming and I find out what her body is like after I actually hang out with her for a while.

What happened here is that I simply showed way too much interest. I'm out of her league otherwise (i.e. I'm better looking than her), lol. You can even scare away fat chicks by showing too much interest (I asked her out a total of 4 times, god damn...no wonder she avoided me).