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Well, I have a good body. And I'm a decent 6 at least, in terms of looks.

Never had a problem pulling in my life. And just imagined that online would be like shopping on Amazon. Never did it before 2016, because it's so fvcking gay, and I was looking for experimentation and volume.
Yes, I thought it would be easier myself, because I had decent looks and thought online my personal communicating shortcomings would not interfere.
I also got 6-7 out of 10 on site (it meant 7 out of 10 female accounts liked my photo) but all matches were really cold.
If you read some OLD guides, it teaches you to send tons of identical messages and then more and more and only then you will have a date. It's really f*cked this whole system if you ask me.
 

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Weird. DeeSade I can't believe a guy with your skills hasn't nailed one by now. Maybe you need to dial down your edginess and go for a bit more comfort. I got Subway last night and was just joking around with the incredibly cute little Filipino counter girl. I find them easily approachable and the big plus is they all have great English.

I ve had 2 Filipino girls both in 30s from OLD both up to 2nd base on first date and balls deep on second. Like all Asian girls u d better take your vitamins, they go all night long. And my age should b a major disqualifier. See if you look hard enough I think there is a hidden vein of gold there. Good immigrant girls who don't go out on the bar and club scene. My current girlfriend said she was on eHarmony and just found the guys boring. Now this is a cute very feminine Asian girl who is easily
lead so imagine how are useless the hordes of betas that you are competing with are. And I got the feeling she might have slept with one of them and even then found him boring. I mean seriously if you can't even dish out the d1ck decently you think you'd be trying to up your game. But like most guys have nfi he probably thinks he's God's gift
 
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Hmm I banged both Filipino girls for a couple of months and they never met my friends or really got taken out. I did buy them a couple of cheap dresses as they seem to like the boyfriend experience. They loved coming around to my place and cooking for me. The national dish which is a kind of chicken and rice thing is actually quite delicious.

I actually find Filipino girls brutal in social circle game. Then the pussie definitely goes to the top provider.

Now back at on OLD just in case I sound like Captain pixel my standard advice is to actually go multi channel. Let your friends know you're interested in meeting a good girl. Chat up the girl at the bus stop, hang out at Target rich environments like yoga etc. But you just can't beat OLD for practicing the basics: messaging game, filtering out AWs, responding to **** tests etc. And you'll never be able to sick up the red pill again after a couple of months online.
 

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10,000 messages...?

Someone once said something about insanity, around doing the same thing over and over again....

I mean, where's the introspection? Easy to blame uncontrolled variables.

Send 10,000 messages and not get laid once....? Clearly hasn't tried everything.
 

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Might have a terminal case of short guy syndrome always massively over compensating
 

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I've been seeing this guy pop up on the POF forums and it seems he's got a lot going for him. If you go to page 9 of

THIS thread...
(You can go back a few more pages to see his responses)

HawkingJr posts how he's been on the site for 10 years and nary had a date from it, (maybe a response here and there, but nothing came of them) He's also sent 10,000 first contact messages. He typically blames his appearance at 5'4" and a mix race (black and white) for his lack of ability to attract women.

As you can tell from the photos he cleans up pretty nice and works out. But if you check his "history" (see under his avatar/photo) You'll see he'll have some well written out diatribes of his online dating situation. He's a script writer/researcher by the way, so his writing is impeccable as opposed to the lame brained text speakers.

He's said he's tried it all, including having constantly changing the write-up of his profile and pics through the suggestion of friends both online and off.

In person, when out and about...women "think of him as a friend" but nothing more. So at least he's got that going for him?

As you can see at the conclusion of Hawking's post:

Trust me: I am the ultimate student of OLD strategy. I’ve read almost every article and study that exists on the subject and participate in studies myself. But apparently sometimes something is so broken it can’t be fixed and should just be thrown away. But it’s very difficult to just throw yourself away.

So what do say to a guy that's exhausted all options, taken all the advice, etc.?

I do tend to concur that if you "lift", but are 5'4"...chances are you will struggle with women. I don't meet too many men that are THAT short to be quite honest. I think I knew of one back in my college days. The best he could do is those toy-sized Filipino chicks probably.

He surmised that no matter what you scribed up in your dating profile....the physical is an easy way to weed men out of the tons of emails she's already getting.
The guys who have the most success know nothing about OLD " strategy". Studying tips on changing your OLD profile can be counterproductive. It's clear he doesn't have self esteem and thinks women are the end all be all. Yes I struggle online (cause of my race and the fact that I'm in California) so I stopped going online and now I do in person game. I agree with everything fastlife said.
 

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My uncle is 5'4" with a 8" thingy. He's been with taller and shorter, but not procreated. It doesn't seem to hurt him that bad, he does not have usual short guy confidence. He's "big Al"...

Social circle seems to have worked him wonders, in and after college. After college he just gets around and keeps it moving.
 

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Christian values are basically old fashioned Western values. Which a lot guys here are pining for, whether they realize it or not.
 

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Christian values are basically old fashioned Western values. Which a lot guys here are pining for, whether they realize it or not.
A loyal feminine wife, who does much of the traditional female tasks and phvcks him good is "old western values"? Sign me up.
 

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5'2" women don't even want men that are 5'9". They're mostly gunning for at least 6'0" so it's no surprise that his chances have been poor.
 

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Damn, I just meant that as a joke but now that I think about it i'm legit worried that I'm at a huge disadvantage by being 5'6".

That's it. Gotta cleanse the earth of lanky fools. Then the girls GOTTA settle for me.
 
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