Thinking You’re The Prize is BS

[crowes22]

Originally posted by Sting
Interesting analysis. Taking it a step further, it would seem that a beatiful woman's ego is tied to her desirability, and thus she must believe on the surface of her psyche that she is the prize to be won. Much deeper in her psyche, however, must be the fundamental belief that *you* are the prize to be won, and that she is lucky to be with you. Thus, while a beautiful woman's psyche would appear to be in conflict, the two levels will not create turmoil provided you maintain the illusion. Only when she does something in conflict with what *you* want should you force her to confront the truth about who is the prize. The resulting conflict will cause her to do what you want in order to restore her illusion.

That is exactly what I know to be the truth. Well said Sting.

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by NiceGuysFinishLast
You have to first change yourself into the prize, and then ACT IT OUT!

when you "are" the prize you dont have to "act" it.

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

Sting, you deserve a big

AMEN, BROTHER!

 

[Ragnar]

I have to say that before we act, we must think. Now thinking doesn't have to be the most crucial aspect but to the newer DJ's we have to get them in the right fram of "mind" which involves thinking a certain way.

Doing is the most important aspect of being a DJ and I don't think anyone is truly undermining it's importance. But to say that having a positive mental attitude and to think you are the best is BS then the whole concept of thought is laughable.

"Be the person you want to become, NOW!"

 

[Ricky]

The best way I've heard it described is that you can't perform your self-image.

But your self-image should be rooted with at least certain truths, most of important is that you subscribe you consistent and never-ending improvement.

I believed I was the catch and women were missing out for a while before I ever visited this site. But there were several things I was doing wrong that held me back.

I didn't listen to my friends when they said I should dress better or get a haircut. If I had consistently thought I was the prize as in a state of perfection that didn't need improvement, I would never have improved my success with women or other areas of life.

I think it is better that you contain all the necessary ingredients to be the prize and that you will continue to move towards that end.

 

[Mack Of All Trades]

Originally posted by MaDsKaTeR212
to answer your question literally, does one have to know they have a bald spot in the back of their head to actually have one?

and if you look at most of the posts he's talking about, they say something like "tell yourself you are the man, then go out there and work your magic!"

these are simply motivators, they don't change reality. how does thinking you are attractive make you that way?

Good point.

 

[Vronski]

trapped for the first time in a room of strippers.

Why, how many times have you been trapped in a room full of strippers?

 

[Fred Da Head]

To quote Morpheus: (like someone else did before me, I just wanna state the point further)

"Don't think you are, know you are."

Of course if you do everything wrong, as much as you know you are the prize, you won't be it. But if you're doing them even half good (say you aren't gifted in the looks department, or you're just not funny, but you still try to look your best and you learn some funny stuff) and you truly believe, as hard as islamists believe killing themselves will change something and get them to heaven, you my friend, yes! You. will. be. the MAN.


Ragnar - we don't have to think before we do. Personally, I have a lot more success when I'm NOT thinking about what I'm doing.

Master Of The World - Yeah, but most of the AFCs are losers as well. Many jerks I know aren't losers. It's just a question of priorities.

You cannot *think* you are the prize when all outward appearances (as well as your own inner sense of self), clearly demonstrate that you are not.

I digress. You can still think it, and even act like it. The only problem is having other people believe it too. It's sortof like the bully believing he's the strongest, meanest, etc, until he sees other bullies. He can still think he'd kick all their butts, and might even provoke them, but the other bully will see, after a while, that he's not that bad.

Most of your statements are on the money tho, good job.

 

[Sting]

Originally posted by Ricky
If I had consistently thought I was the prize as in a state of perfection that didn't need improvement, I would never have improved my success with women or other areas of life.

I think it is better that you contain all the necessary ingredients to be the prize and that you will continue to move towards that end.

Well put. Belief is a question of faith, not one of logic or reason. Yet blind faith does not change reality. You must accept who you are right now before you can become who you want to be. Self-improvement is the key to long-term success with women, and can be achieved in a variety of areas. Your "game" is only one area in which you must improve. Unfortunately, many AFCs want an immediate solution, and are unwilling to put in the requisite effort to achieve permanent success. Instead, they will spend countless hours and thousands of dollars on "get laid quick" strategies that promise everything, but deliver nothing.

 

[Master Of The World]

exactly

Originally posted by Sting
Well put. Belief is a question of faith, not one of logic or reason. Yet blind faith does not change reality. You must accept who you are right now before you can become who you want to be. Self-improvement is the key to long-term success with women, and can be achieved in a variety of areas. Your "game" is only one area in which you must improve. Unfortunately, many AFCs want an immediate solution, and are unwilling to put in the requisite effort to achieve permanent success. Instead, they will spend countless hours and thousands of dollars on "get laid quick" strategies that promise everything, but deliver nothing.

Bravooo !! Read "Winning Through Intimidation" and "Looking out for # 1 " by Robert Ringer......You will find the exact same thing you are talking about and you haven't even read the book!!!

way to go Sting !

excelent POST !!!!

 

[Master Of The World]

exactly

Originally posted by Sting
Well put. Belief is a question of faith, not one of logic or reason. Yet blind faith does not change reality. You must accept who you are right now before you can become who you want to be. Self-improvement is the key to long-term success with women, and can be achieved in a variety of areas. Your "game" is only one area in which you must improve. Unfortunately, many AFCs want an immediate solution, and are unwilling to put in the requisite effort to achieve permanent success. Instead, they will spend countless hours and thousands of dollars on "get laid quick" strategies that promise everything, but deliver nothing.

Bravooo !! Read "Winning Through Intimidation" and "Looking out for # 1 " by Robert Ringer......You will find the exact same thing you are talking about and you haven't even read the book!!! People tend to confuse Illusion versus Reality and they also confuse Wish versus Reality

way to go Sting !

excelent POST !!!!

 

[mystik]

i know im the prize, and I know it because the time i invest to ensure the PRIZE stay the PRIZE. i work out so the girls who are lucky enuf to touch me can trace my abs w/ their fingers, i read so i have interesting things to say.

i am the prize. because i think that way, i work to improve myself which coincides with your philosophy except differes in the fundamental step - the MINDSET

 

[Sting]

Originally posted by mystik
i know im the prize, and I know it because the time i invest to ensure the PRIZE stay the PRIZE. i work out so the girls who are lucky enuf to touch me can trace my abs w/ their fingers, i read so i have interesting things to say.

i am the prize. because i think that way, i work to improve myself which coincides with your philosophy except differes in the fundamental step - the MINDSET

Sigh, I wish I could make it clearer, and perhaps I can. The "mindset" cannot come before your committment to change. If it does, you will never change what is holding you back, because you will have falsely convinced yourself that you are the "prize" just as you are. In you relations with other people, particularly women, you may come off as arrogant rather than confident, because arrogance stems from insecurity, while confidence stems from truth.

Arrogance is the way of the jerk, while confidence is the way of the Don Juan.

 

[Fred Da Head]

I think what one should do is "know" that they are the prize, but that in order to remain the prize, they need to improve some aspects. "Thinking" that you are it won't make you better, and if you "know" you're the prize as you are, you won't improve as much.

It's all about balance.

 

[Aztec]

I like your insight on this thinking. Strong argument.

 

[g f l a s h 4 0 0 1]

Sting,

I agree that if you just say that you are the prize and do nothing about it, it will get you nowhere. But, I think that blind faith that you are the prize will get you somewhere if you actually believe it. It will increase your CONFIDENCE and lessen your desperation in a way that no amount of lifting, reading, etc. can.

I think this was the great insight of Pook's post. Anybody can know that they are the Great Catch when they are rich, stacked, confident, etc. What he was saying is that all that was needed to become a Great Catch was the genuine belief that you are.

Think about it. The Great Catch will always do the correct thing. Would the Great Catch approach a woman he likes, or would he p*ssy out? Would he sit all day playing video games, or would he work on improving himself? If you really believe that you are the Great Catch you will start doing these things naturally.

I am just saying this because believing that I was the Great Catch brought me amazing results. I went from AFC to pimp almost solely on the basis of that one post. So I believe strongly that it works.

G F L A S H

 

[wheelin&dealin]

I'm a pimp.


Hope this answers all your questions,

 

[diplomatic_lies]

I think one of the problems with believing you are the prize is that you start to beleive you are far superior to everyone else. You then become more aggressive, demanding, and refuse to listen to other people. In effect, you don't respect others, and every conversation ends with you trying to gain the upper hand (the "fighting" mode).

Others then begin to see you as stuck-up, and refuse to coorperate with you. Your co-workers seek to undermine your attempts to gain the promotion, and even your manager isn't too happy.


If you're already charismatic, it works. But if you are just a regular guy, you have the danger of falling into the trap of being too aggressive, and soon every conversation will be like a fight to you.

 

[Blue Phoenix]

If most people disagree with this thread, why did it receive 5 stars???

 

[Jariel]

I agree with it. The key is to become the prize - a man that you are proud to be and that women would feel proud to be with.