Thinking of sending a girl these texts: to do or not to do?

[Skyline]

What do you mean clear that I dont know how to text sexually?

If my gut tells me to send her a text I find it really difficult not to text at all though tbh. Yesterday would also have been a great time to call though, but there was no time. I'll have to try another time this week I think.

Also don't understand why would anyone advise to wait a week before calling.

Because you don't. Those texts that you thought about sending are supplicating and horrible. They imply that she's better than you and that her sexual presence is worth more than yours. On top of that, they're all off the bat sexual. You have to ease into it.

One of the keys to sexting is implying that you're doing her a favor by doing 'x' and easing into flat out sexual responses.


I tell her "Then you have to tell me when you have time beautiful".

"In all my days I've never met a hottie like you".

Then maybe sending: "If you were to grace me with your aura I would be honored".

Third text I came up with: "And if you were to sit on my face causing me to suffocate I would die a happy man".


All four of those are awful. You may be able to say this type of stuff in person but over text... You really can't. Texting and real life are two different platforms. Like Tennis and Baseball.

Here are some sample of what you should have said :

"Alright baby cakes, tell me when you have time"

2nd:

I would actually never send a text similar or remotely close to that...

3rd:

"People like us can be intimidating, so it's best if we lay low, I get it."

4th:

This one is just flat out sexual. Texts like these are an instant turn off. You have to build into it. You're also implying that she's better than you and she would be doing you a favor by doing a sexual act with you. It should be the other way around.

Sometimes your gut isn't the best tool to use when it comes to texting. Remember, most of communication is done through body language. Not actually speaking...

 

[BeExcellent]

Because you don't. Those texts that you thought about sending are supplicating and horrible. They imply that she's better than you and that her sexual presence is worth more than yours. On top of that, they're all off the bat sexual. You have to ease into it.

One of the keys to sexting is implying that you're doing her a favor by doing 'x' and easing into flat out sexual responses.


I tell her "Then you have to tell me when you have time beautiful".

"In all my days I've never met a hottie like you".

Then maybe sending: "If you were to grace me with your aura I would be honored".

Third text I came up with: "And if you were to sit on my face causing me to suffocate I would die a happy man".


All four of those are awful. You may be able to say this type of stuff in person but over text... You really can't. Texting and real life are two different platforms. Like Tennis and Baseball.

Here are some sample of what you should have said :

"Alright baby cakes, tell me when you have time"

2nd:

I would actually never send a text similar or remotely close to that...

3rd:

"People like us can be intimidating, so it's best if we lay low, I get it."

4th:

This one is just flat out sexual. Texts like these are an instant turn off. You have to build into it. You're also implying that she's better than you and she would be doing you a favor by doing a sexual act with you. It should be the other way around.

Sometimes your gut isn't the best tool to use when it comes to texting. Remember, most of communication is done through body language. Not actually speaking...

Thanks @Skyline for explaining this to him. Hopefully he will listen.

She's hot. Ok. Guess what? She's seen a mirror. She knows. Men constantly drool over her. Be the guy who doesn't drool. THAT is how you stand out. As though HB9's are utterly normal run of the mill for you.

Those texts you floated? Horrible. Terrible. Cheesy. The fourth one? Like Sunday afternoon: no class. You will relegate yourself to über creep with that last one. The first 3 just scream desperate.

Wait a week. If she doesn't respond hit her with something like:

"So did you break up with Debbie Downer?"

But your problem is you think she is BEAUTIFUL...so until you get used to pretty women (that have men always acting like puppy dogs over them) you are going to blow it (pun intended).

This is a c o k e w h o r e for crying out loud. That set of crazy has its own zip code.

 

[Young_Don]

In person you sound like an absolute boss. Through text you sound like an absolute wank.

Stop being desperate. If you sense that she's being short with you, just leave it alone. If she really wants the D she will make an effort to communicate. After she told you she was busy with work, you shouldv'e left it at "alright then you let me know when you're free and we'll set something up".
Leave the ball in her court so you're not constantly chasing and making yourself anxious over what to do next.

 

[Chamber36]

In person you sound like an absolute boss. Through text you sound like an absolute wank.

Stop being desperate. If you sense that she's being short with you, just leave it alone. If she really wants the D she will make an effort to communicate. After she told you she was busy with work, you shouldv'e left it at "alright then you let me know when you're free and we'll set something up".
Leave the ball in her court so you're not constantly chasing and making yourself anxious over what to do next.

Thats what I did.

 

[JohnChops]

How is flattery suddenly not a valid form of game anymore?

Everybody just has to be a giant douchebag now in order to fvck women?

Some women respond to flattery, some don't. I never flattered my ex about her looks, because she didn't consider herself worthy of that type of praise. Therefore I didn't waste it on her.

Other women I do consider worthy of praise. And so I praise them. Why not tell them what I want to tell them.

I don't see how that makes a man beta.

Game is complicated and I admit that I have trouble with text-game, but really if a girl deserves it you can never go wrong with compliments or flattery.

Flattery? More like manipulator nice guy/beta game tactics. You gave her a bunch of empty compliments, put heron the pedestal and now you're trying to play the " not like the other guys" schema.. This will not end well for you.

 

[mikey2012]

Met her on thursday. Told her she looked like a valkyrie. She said that was the best compliment she'd gotten all day. She invited me for a cigarette outside. I followed and she approached me. Told her I wouldn't know what to do with a girl like her. She said: "I don't believe that". I said: "Actually I would". She laughed. She said: "Let's talk about what you could do with me inside". I tell her: "How about a sample?", and we make out.

Inside I offer her a short of Jaeger, and we chat for a while. I ask her if she goes to the gym, feel up her ass and tell her it's supernatural. She laughs. I get her number in front of her lesbian lover who was getting jealous. I tell her its a disgrace I have to stay until closing time. Upon talking to her later I tell her I'll ask my boss if I can leave early. I approach her later and give her the confirmation. She says: "gimme 2 minutes". While I'm cleaning up I see her friend lose patience and basically drag her out. I go in the doorway and she mouths to me: "Sorry". I go back inside. She comes in later under the guise of asking for a biking helmet. Then says sorry again. I tell her I'll text her and she gives me another kiss on the lips.

So the next day I text her: "I could have eaten you up yesterday". She responds with a kiss smiley. Few hours later I say: "I would like to enjoy your presence tomorrow night". She says she has to work. I tell her "Then you have to tell me when you have time beautiful".

So now it's been 2 days since I sent that text. I don't expect her to send me something now. I woke up this afternoon thinking of senidng her: "In all my days I've never met a hottie like you".

Then maybe sending: "If you were to grace me with your aura I would be honored".

Third text I came up with: "And if you were to sit on my face causing me to suffocate I would die a happy man".

Now I'm feeling quite anxious because I feel like I gotta keep her warmed up. Today would have been the day to simply call her on the phone because she kept telling me to call (as opposed to texting). I simply didnt have time today and I don't know when I will.

So guys how about your opinions? She is an HB9 Valkyrie class and she was coked up a bit, which sort of made it all the more surprising that I was getting all these IOI's from her as cocaine usually makes girls arrogant.

You fvcking kidding me? Go ghost. Let her text. Act aloof. Don't send those fvcking beta texts.

 

[SuckItUp]

As mentioned if you have to ask then the answer is no.

If you going to use flattery do so in small doses, if at all. Also make sure you are rewarding her for good behavior.

Game has layers, depth, and subtext. Women love flattery to massage their egos, but unless you are a master seducer and know how how to balance flattery out, you'll end up chasing women away because as mentioned you are pedastalling women.

 

[Chamber36]

I dont understand how you guys are so opposed to pedestalization game tbh.

The more time I spend waiting, the more time nothing happens. Women want to be chased. Why not just fvcking chase her quick as opposed to slow. Why the fvck would I wait a whole damn week, or 10 days, then suddenly do what? Call? Text? That's even fvcking worse.

The iron has to be striked while its hot. You gotta smash the fvck out of that iron while it's hot. Now the iron is cooled off and I didn't get to bang it with my hammer. It's my own damn mistake but really there's nothing wrong with showing some persistence.

I feel worse about myself sitting with my **** in my hand for "strategic reasons" as opposed to just fvcking calling her 1,2 or 3 times (max) to get her to join me for an afternoon. Because if she doesn't pick up or work with me after 3 calls then I know for sure I can just move on. I'm just drawing out the fvcking end game here, stalling whatever the fvck's going to happen, and I don't see my chances increasing as I wait.

Am I just an impatient little boy or wat? Cuz I think you guys just don't understand my game. It's called "direct game".

Explain that to me.

 

[QuadDeuces]

While you are writing flattery texts, some other dude plows her before he kicks her to the bus stop.

 

[Chamber36]

my point exactly.

What I really shoulda done is called her. Suppose I still could but its taking too long for that now.

 

[SuckItUp]

I dont understand how you guys are so opposed to pedestalization game tbh.

The more time I spend waiting, the more time nothing happens. Women want to be chased. Why not just fvcking chase her quick as opposed to slow. Why the fvck would I wait a whole damn week, or 10 days, then suddenly do what? Call? Text? That's even fvcking worse.

The iron has to be striked while its hot. You gotta smash the fvck out of that iron while it's hot. Now the iron is cooled off and I didn't get to bang it with my hammer. It's my own damn mistake but really there's nothing wrong with showing some persistence.

I feel worse about myself sitting with my **** in my hand for "strategic reasons" as opposed to just fvcking calling her 1,2 or 3 times (max) to get her to join me for an afternoon. Because if she doesn't pick up or work with me after 3 calls then I know for sure I can just move on. I'm just drawing out the fvcking end game here, stalling whatever the fvck's going to happen, and I don't see my chances increasing as I wait.

Am I just an impatient little boy or wat? Cuz I think you guys just don't understand my game. It's called "direct game".

Explain that to me.

Nobody here is against direct game and if it works for you then don't let us stop you. However, one's direct game is correlative to confidence and IDagf attitude, which is not congruent with what you are posting.

You got this girl into a sexualized state but what you are missing is that your flirting, kissing, at night in a more appropriate venue such as a club while she was coked up has a much more massive effect than that same sober girl getting a text while she's doing laundry or watching Netflix. She may have responded simply because she was bored, her regular f buddy wasn't available, she was lonely, or there was no coke available.

The only way extreme pedestalizing works is if the girl feels that you are massively out of her league or she is obscenely insecure and typically the only girls that meet that type of profile are nut jobs.

Woman are autoprogrammed to reject flattery. However, you can get away with it if the girl finds you attractive enough, but ultimately you're broadcasting interest which doesn't work for 99% of guys, because you making yourself too needy/available.

Ideally, you want her to chase you hence reason if you're going to flatter you need to include some backhanded compliments or mini negs to make feel that she needs to impress you and qualify herself to you.

 

[Young_Don]

Alright lads, so I matched with this smoking 9/10 on Tinder today and this is the convo as shown + some eye candy for the boys. Straight off the bat she seemed dull and boring. I guess she's looking for someone to challenge her since I can guarentee 99% of blokes in her inbox would be telling her how hot she is (she's seen a mirror, she already knows this).

The convo ended like this and I haven't sent her any more msgs after this because what's the point.. Did I show too much effort in my msgs and turn her off or is she just the type of chick looking for validation through matches and not actually keen on taking it any further than txting?

I tried to play it like I would with any other girl even though she's hotter than any of the other girls I'm tuning atm but she was clearly not interested from the start.

 

[Reykhel]

Alright lads, so I matched with this smoking 9/10 on Tinder today and this is the convo as shown + some eye candy for the boys. Straight off the bat she seemed dull and boring. I guess she's looking for someone to challenge her since I can guarentee 99% of blokes in her inbox would be telling her how hot she is (she's seen a mirror, she already knows this).

The convo ended like this and I haven't sent her any more msgs after this because what's the point.. Did I show too much effort in my msgs and turn her off or is she just the type of chick looking for validation through matches and not actually keen on taking it any further than txting?

I tried to play it like I would with any other girl even though she's hotter than any of the other girls I'm tuning atm but she was clearly not interested from the start.

A 9/10 on Tinder???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahhahhahaha

Sure you weren't talking to a transgender transvestite or whatever they're called bro....

 

[Young_Don]

@Reykhel

Hahah she has better pics on insta, not a fan of the nose job

 

[Glassguy]

IMO your last response killed it.

It could have been taken as clingy. I wouldnt have given her a compliment about her eyes that early in the messaging stage either. WTF did she do for you to deserve a compliment so early? Especially hot chicks. Dont be like the other beta dudes that shower them with compliments. Stand out. Dont give them until she has done something for you. Stop putting them on a pedestal.

At the "sounds promising" comment I would have said "Lets meet for drinks and find out. ____ at _____pm".

Its Tinder. These chicks want to smash, especially a hot 19 yr old. Exchange a couple messages and go for the kill. You have probably blown this one. Dont message her again and leave it in her hands. Learn from your mistake.

 

[Young_Don]

@Glassguy

Yea I'm taking the loss on this one. That's a good point, no compliments unless she's done something for me.. I'll keep that in mind.

 

[SuckItUp]

@Glassguy

Yea I'm taking the loss on this one. That's a good point, no compliments unless she's done something for me.. I'll keep that in mind.

Just to reinforce Glassguy's point look at her responses before your compliment, they are flirtatious and sarcastic, but as soon as you compliment she gives a thanks, which is a complete change in attitude and as you realized a frame break.

When you are dealing with women like this you have to be relentless in busting their chops.

Her pictures alone suggest she's used to men worshipping her and very few men have said no. She's well aware that she can use her sexual appeal to manipulate men.

 

[Glassguy]

I learned many moons ago that the average girls (6.5-7.5's) dont get a ton of compliments. Therefore, throwing one their way every now and then make them feel better about themselves, thus raising their interest in you. I am not talking about showering them with compliments, just one here and there. You separate yourself from most other guys when you give her one now and then.

The hot chicks, 8s and up, get compliments around every corner. Not giving compliments and actually busting her chops a little separates yourself from everyone else. She will wonder why you aren't admiring her glamour and being a door mat. That raises her interest in you because you are now a challenge.

I hope you see the difference.

You could have busted this chicks chops 10 ways from Sunday and really caused her hamster to spin.

"I think Im pretty fat"

"I would see if I can pick you up, but I normally dont try to pick up blondes."

 

[Young_Don]

Haha I'm loving this! I have no troubles with 7s and 8s but when it comes to 9s/10s I struggle a bit in knowing how to approach without being a kiss ass like every other guy, but this all makes sense.

I guess from now on I'll leave no room for leniency and be more savage. We all want the hot ones anyway, nothing less than the 7s lol

 

[JohnChops]

I dont understand how you guys are so opposed to pedestalization game tbh.

The more time I spend waiting, the more time nothing happens. Women want to be chased. Why not just fvcking chase her quick as opposed to slow. Why the fvck would I wait a whole damn week, or 10 days, then suddenly do what? Call? Text? That's even fvcking worse.

The iron has to be striked while its hot. You gotta smash the fvck out of that iron while it's hot. Now the iron is cooled off and I didn't get to bang it with my hammer. It's my own damn mistake but really there's nothing wrong with showing some persistence.

I feel worse about myself sitting with my **** in my hand for "strategic reasons" as opposed to just fvcking calling her 1,2 or 3 times (max) to get her to join me for an afternoon. Because if she doesn't pick up or work with me after 3 calls then I know for sure I can just move on. I'm just drawing out the fvcking end game here, stalling whatever the fvck's going to happen, and I don't see my chances increasing as I wait.

Am I just an impatient little boy or wat? Cuz I think you guys just don't understand my game. It's called "direct game".

Explain that to me.

Sounds like you want to take your finger, put it down your throat, finger you uvula and toss up that red pill. The issue with wanting to call her "1,2 or 3 times "max"' is that you look desperate, you THINK that you are being persistent but on a covert level of communication you are saying to her, "Hey I have no other prospects, I have put you on this high horse, please come out with me, ill just keep begging until you do."

She will have no respect for you, and you will end up getting LJBF, which by your "game" you will agree, and think you can be "not like the other guys" and "slide in" to her, sexually, which will not be the case.

What you are doing is NOT direct game either. Being direct mean being direct in your actions, timing has nothing to do with it. Even if you are playing a direct game, it does not mean you faun all over her, and constantly contact her, hoping she will be free to go out with you. People will text fluff, and be indirect with their actions (guys running beta fluff game) , however, a man playing direct game will simply not text fluff and get straight to the point i.e. asking her out. In the end, we are only people on a forum, trying to help you out, but ultimately you can do whatever you want.

Best of luck.