They Only Want What's Worst For You

[bigneil]

You probably haven't lived 46 years in 25 cites and 12 states. I've worked with the top people in every corner of my industry. I am describing human nature. The better you are, the more haters you have. Anytime you do something worthwhile you are going to offend yourself.

Again, see Donald Trump (demonized by the media) and Tom Brady (demonized by sore loser fans and Roger Goodell) for examples.

That should have read "anytime you do something worthwhile you are going to offend SOMEONE".

 

[BeTheChange]

I find this dynamic only occurs when you are progressing and others are stagnant. If you surround yourself with positive people who are actively improving as you are these people root for your success. Rather than having a 'me against the world' attitude, you can surround yourself with a network of like-minded individuals striving for greatness.

The other side of the coin.

Took more than a page to find a half decent post. Well done sir.

Wholly agree with this and I feel sorry for people who haven't seen the other side - friends who legitimately want the best for you because they themselves are progressing and achieving their own goals in life. Positivity attracts positivity.

 

[Trainwreck]

I was thinking about this over the weekend. I landed a nice job and I have received a lot of condescending remarks about it. There's a lot of people out here that will just sit there, put 0% effort in to obtaining anything, and **** and blame others when some angel doesn't magically give them what they want. I had to go through hell to get to where I am at, budget for my travels/lifestyle, and can afford a nice vehicle. I did not choose to have 3 kids, I did not choose to sit at my parents house and rot for 5 years, I did not pick a worthless college major so I could party all of the time, I do not choose to waste 80% of my paycheck on one night at a bar, I did not choose to chase waste energy chasing worthless pucci on tinder instead of my career, and etc. This is bull ****, I knew this would happen too, so I'm just going to play pretend I'm not doing anything from now on.

 

[bigneil]

Took more than a page to find a half decent post. Well done sir.

Wholly agree with this and I feel sorry for people who haven't seen the other side - friends who legitimately want the best for you because they themselves are progressing and achieving their own goals in life. Positivity attracts positivity.

How many patents do you have? How many businesses have you started? How many contracts have you fulfilled? How many cities have you lived in? How many planes have you flown on?

Spare us your feel-good crap and get a job.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I have felt this before too. Figured it out when I was 15 after I lost my grandiose state of mind and found this place somewhat as a result.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that they want what is WORST for you, though I understand your point nonetheless. This is why when you talk to a lot VERY successful people, they tend to be humble. The only time people will truly hate you and be jealous of you is if you talk about your successes or show it. bigneil, I notice that a lot of your posts on here revolve around you telling us how much money you make and all the strippers you date. I also notice how you often say how because you are older than some and have lived all across the country, you somehow have more 'experience' than other posters on here and use that as an reason to prove that you are right when they disagree with you.

I don't say this with intent to insult. This is a flaw in your own character. You have an enormous ego. Rather than asking posters why they think the way they do or why they disagree with you, you simply respond with a 'this is what I have done and you haven't done that' post. Perhaps this shows in your personality in real life and you do not realize it. You can feel good about yourself, but you shouldn't flaunt it or show how much better you are than someone else. When you do this, no one wants you to be successful, and understandably so.

 

[BeExcellent]

As @BeTheChange said: positivity attracts positivity.

Some of y'all need more positive people in your life. Start by being more positive yourself. If someone I considered a friend decided to crap on me as I went through tough times working like hell to support a family & "make it" I simply cut those people off from my time. Without any conversation or announcement. People who would crap on you (if you were going to let them) don't have the ability to listen or see your point of view.

They are too self absorbed.

Their actions speak so loudly it doesn't matter what they say. Or what you say. Let your actions speak for you. Talk is cheap. Walk the walk & cut the crap out of your life. Communicate through action. You'll gain self respect and self confidence for it. You'll gain the respect of others too.

The more successful you become the more you learn to keep your mouth shut. Very wealthy people may appear humble & many indeed are...but smart wealthy people are almost without exception discreet. That will look like humility but in many cases it is actually discretion posing as humility.

 

[fastlife]

How many patents do you have? How many businesses have you started? How many contracts have you fulfilled? How many cities have you lived in? How many planes have you flown on?

Spare us your feel-good crap and get a job.

Lol. This type of attitude couldn't possibly contribute to or exacerbate the dynamic you speak of in the OP, could it? Antagonism begets antagonism, almost without exception--if it was simply a matter of success, then all successful people would be equally vilified or have their interpersonal connections equally undermined according to their level of success.

The vast majority of people you met in those 25 cities, 12 states, across 46 years couldn't have cared less how successful you were. A small minority of those people felt threatened by your success or felt like they needed to undermine it; a small minority of those people were happy for you and would've probably been happy to help you further that success. But by focusing on a small minority, it distorts your worldview a little bit; and then if you're validation-seeking or flaunt your success or go in expecting people to be antagonistic toward you for being successful, well you'll flip a few of the otherwise indifferent or helpful individuals toward resentment.

It's your life; you get to choose your focus. You get to choose the type of people you surround yourself with; and you have control over how you frame your interactions with other people. Those three things can drastically change your experience of the world.

Inb4 the ad hominem attacks & qualification

 

[bigneil]

Lol. This type of attitude couldn't possibly contribute to or exacerbate the dynamic you speak of in the OP, could it?

Tell us about your personal achievements and how everyone celebrated you along the way. Do you have any yet? What are you #1 in the world at, and what did #2 and #3 have to say about it?

The day I got my first patent I worked for the top video game company on the #1 game franchise. I had just been assigned to a new manager and I told him I just got a new patent that day and he said "I'm not allowed to talk about patents". Within a week he wanted to have a talk. I was told I was the least innovative person on the team, and the worst problem solver on a team of 40 (that prompted me to score 160 on a spatial IQ test, placing me in the 99.99% percentile of problem solvers). Then I wrote some amazing collision detection code (considered the most challenging in the video game field) but he still fired me and got promoted to director. This has been the more typical example in my experience.

This is the #1 rule in Laws of Power: Never Outshine the Master.

But let's hear from people with rose colored glasses who say we just need a hug and a dorm.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Tell us about your personal achievements and how everyone celebrated you along the way. Do you have any yet? What are you #1 in the world at, and what did #2 and #3 have to say about it?

The day I got my first patent I worked for the top video game company on the #1 game franchise. I had just been assigned to a new manager and I told him I just got a new patent that day and he said "I'm not allowed to talk about patents". Within a week he wanted to have a talk. I was told I was the least innovative person on the team, and the worst problem solver on a team of 40 (that prompted me to score 160 on a spatial IQ test, placing me in the 99.99% percentile of problem solvers). Then I wrote some amazing collision detection code (considered the most challenging in the video game field) but he still fired me and got promoted to director. This has been the more typical example in my experience.

This is the #1 rule in Laws of Power: Never Outshine the Master.

But let's hear from people with rose colored glasses who say we just need a hug and a dorm.

That is exactly my point. You were talking about it. Why do you feel such a strong urge to brag?

 

[bigneil]

That is exactly my point. You were talking about it. Why do you feel such a strong urge to brag?

Why would I tell my new boss in a computer graphics job that I got a patent in the computer graphics field?

I'm not bragging, I'm living. You meanwhile are a member of the perpetually offended who resents being reminded that you need to go bust your as-s for 20 years like I did to get the things you want. You think you can just say something really nice and get lots of likes.

 

[BeTheChange]

How many patents do you have? How many businesses have you started? How many contracts have you fulfilled? How many cities have you lived in? How many planes have you flown on?

Spare us your feel-good crap and get a job.

If I was as insecure, loud and confrontational as you I would probably have more "haters" too. When you go in with the mentality of "me against the world", that is exactly what you will get. People sense the hostility and react accordingly.

Confident people don't behave the way you do. In turn, confident people don't associate themselves with clowns like you either.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Why would I tell my new boss in a computer graphics job that I got a patent in the computer graphics field?

I'm not bragging, I'm living. You meanwhile are a member of the perpetually offended who resents being reminded that you need to go bust your as-s for 20 years like I did to get the things you want. You think you can just say something really nice and get lots of likes.

Projecting in an attempt to rationalize that you did nothing wrong and that again, someone younger than you is.

What were the circumstances that prompted you to tell him about your patent?

 

[bigneil]

Projecting in an attempt to rationalize that you did nothing wrong and that again, someone younger than you is.

What were the circumstances that prompted you to tell him about your patent?

Well, on my first day reporting to him, I received my patent letter in the mail. I thought it might be pertinent. I thought he'd be happy to know that his first direct report was competent in his field. That patent took 10 years work and $25,000 legal fees and was in my own name. The product it was based on could have revolutionized the video game industry. You're actually asking why I bothered to mention it, and saying that might have offended someone? And you voted for Hillary also, I imagine.

I'm not projecting. I'm underscoring that you most likely have not competed at this level so you don't understand how people react. If you never achieve anything everyone will love you. What have you achieved? People only boo the stars. Become a star in your field and get back to me.

 

[bigneil]

Confident people don't associate themselves with clowns like you either.

If we give you enough rope you will hang yourself.

Thank you for proving my point. If someone accomplishes a lot, people who have not accomplished a lot will resent them (see BeTheChange).

Readers will observe we have two categories of people here

1) People who have achieved something and understand what I'm talking about.
2) Feminized frat boys texting the word "bro" to each other.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

If I was as insecure, loud and confrontational as you I would probably have more "haters" too. When you go in with the mentality of "me against the world", that is exactly what you will get. People sense the hostility and react accordingly.

Confident people don't behave the way you do. In turn, confident people don't associate themselves with clowns like you either.

Well said.

It takes a special character to get @BeTheChange and I to agree, but leave it to @bigneil. He's the resident self-proclaimed Wolf Of Wall Street, so successful in business he doesn't know what to do with all his greatness - which makes this huge chip on his shoulder a little peculiar.

 

[bigneil]

God forbid I show results. People lacking results resent that. Until I showed up, they could out pretend everyone. Maybe if you guys ever get real jobs or dates with hot women we will take your crappy advice seriously, but I doubt it.

 

[BeTheChange]

If we give you enough rope you will hang yourself.

Thank you for proving my point. If someone accomplishes a lot, people who have not accomplished a lot will resent them (see BeTheChange).

Readers will observe we have two categories of people here

1) People who have achieved something and understand what I'm talking about.
2) Feminized frat boys texting the word "bro" to each other.

Yes. If we don't agree with you then we must be Hillary-voting welfare recipients named Laqueesha. Strong argument.

 

[bigneil]

You need to show evidence to support your claims.

I started my first business when I was 26. Get back to us after 20 years of 60 hour weeks and tell us what you've learned.

 

[bigneil]

bigneil, I notice that a lot of your posts on here revolve around you telling us how much money you make and all the strippers you date.

Yes, these are called working examples.

Would you prefer I was broke and never had a date, but spewed a bunch of stuff out my as-s?

Are you saying you would prefer not to make a lot of money and date the hottest women?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yes, these are called working examples.

Would you prefer I was broke and never had a date, but spewed a bunch of stuff out my as-s?

Are you saying you would prefer not to make a lot of money and date the hottest women?

I'd prefer you date the strippers, don't spend money, but let some of the "guys" they occasionally see spend the money. And in the real world, to deal with hot and solid career women, also spend little to none. That would be the true testament to womens desire for you.