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Anyone who thinks "bragging is bad" just proves the OP's point.

People hate other people's success. What they hate even more is people who are proud of their own success. In the blue pill world.. it is forbidden to say "I'm awesome". What nerve!

The higher you fly the more haters you get. And these haters want you to be "humble" to protect their ego.

Just like everyone here is now trying to bring bigneil down a few notches.. the same dynamic happens in the real world. Any crab that tries to climb out of the bucket is dragged back down by the other crabs.. Where the f*ck you do think you're going?!! Get back down here with us!
 

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Per the purpose of being a SS member, I'm here to tell everyone the exact blueprint for how I have succeeded with women. That required succeeding in business, and I can also share how that was achieved. I've told the good and the bad. I've told how much it costs and what the risks and rewards are. I've gone bankrupt, lived at Extended Stay for months, had girls tear my heart out and stomp on it and laugh, but in the end it all toughened me up.

2016 was my best year with women. I had sex with 3 new women, and contrary to popular belief, I didn't meet any of them at a strip club (two of them turned out to be strippers after the fact, as most super gorgeous women you meet will). One was a patron at a bar, one was a waitress at a hotel and one was an off duty waitress. I also dated 3 other girls who I did meet at strip clubs but we only made out. I must have made out with 20 gorgeous women. To be honest, sex is not my goal. A sincere kiss is a goal of mine though.

Age 40-46 has been the best 6 year period of my life so younger men can look forward to it.
 

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Per the purpose of being a SS member, I'm here to tell everyone the exact blueprint for how I have succeeded with women. That required succeeding in business, and I can also share how that was achieved. I've told the good and the bad. I've told how much it costs and what the rewards are.

2016 was my best year with women. I had sex with 3 new women, and contrary to popular belief, I didn't meet any of them at a strip club (two of them turned out to be strippers after the fact, as most super gorgeous women you meet will). I also dated 3 other girls who I did meet at strip clubs but we only made out. I must have made out with 20 gorgeous women. To be honest, sex is not my goal. A sincere kiss is a goal of mine though.

Age 40-46 has been the best 6 year period of my life so younger men can look forward to it.
Your a electro magnet for strippers. Attracting them out when you aren't expecting it.
 

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@bigneil asked you a question. You might not like how direct he was, but he is asking something reasonable.

All he wants is for you to provide big achievements in your lives. This will test the validity of what you are saying.

You claim that success can be achieved with positive like minded people around you, and they won't be jealous or sabotage you or use you or look as you as competition.

Well, if you want your claim to be of much value, you must provide evidence in your own lives when this worked.

If you haven't even achieved anything impressive, then how could you possibly be so sure your claim works?
 

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@bigneil asked you a question. You might not like how direct he was, but he is asking something reasonable.

All he wants is for you to provide big achievements in your lives. This will test the validity of what you are saying.

You claim that success can be achieved with positive like minded people around you, and they won't be jealous or sabotage you or use you or look as you as competition.

Well, if you want your claim to be of much value, you must provide evidence in your own lives when this worked.

If you haven't even achieved anything impressive, then how could you possibly be so sure your claim works?
A simple browse through my posts will reveal as much as you'd need to know. Ironically when I do mention my successes I'm called a liar. Can't win either way.

But for those who care, here are some of my personal and professional achievements in 2016.

Fvcked five different girls in the space of eight days, without leaving third gear. My housemate and best friend is a natural and was a massive asset in helping me learn the game with his advice and behaviour, even though it means I have probably reached / transcended his level.

Double digit lay count in spite of having a 3 year exclusive LTR for six months of the year with a BPD demon.

Ran my own business in addition to full time employment. Creative Accounting ensured I made no taxable profit, but the cash allowed me to fund my current and planned investments. Revenue of $50k+ in FY16 and around the same expected in FY17. Admittedly don't expect to replicate this in FY18 due to work commitments but the salary bumps should compensate.

Set up a personal property investment company and closed my first 100k+ property deal. I expect to purchase an additional four properties in 2017 for my personal portfolio.

Established and managed a separate property investment syndicate with myself and nine other friends / investors. 2 year lock up period commencing February 2017.

Headhunted by one of the largest media conglomerates in the world to join their commerical team. I can expect to be a Director of a Fortune 500 company in six years.

Those are the big ones that come to mind at the moment. Just because you are "successful" (and let's not forget it's all relative) doesn't mean you need to have bigneil's mentality on life.
 

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Well, on my first day reporting to him, I received my patent letter in the mail. I thought it might be pertinent. I thought he'd be happy to know that his first direct report was competent in his field. That patent took 10 years work and $25,000 legal fees and was in my own name. The product it was based on could have revolutionized the video game industry. You're actually asking why I bothered to mention it, and saying that might have offended someone? And you voted for Hillary also, I imagine.

I'm not projecting. I'm underscoring that you most likely have not competed at this level so you don't understand how people react. If you never achieve anything everyone will love you. What have you achieved? People only boo the stars. Become a star in your field and get back to me.
Well sh!t dude, you tell him your qualifications if he asks. Otherwise, it just makes him feel insecure because he is/was your superior. You were a threat to him becoming director so of course he would have wanted to take out the competition. But if he was some random dude from the street though who you told about your patent, he would probably say "good for you" and then walk away.

And no, I can't vote yet. You are further projecting to find an excuse to dosregard what I'm saying. If I could have voted, it would definitely be for Trump. Ask my family if it's true :D:D:D.
Yes, these are called working examples.

Would you prefer I was broke and never had a date, but spewed a bunch of stuff out my as-s?

Are you saying you would prefer not to make a lot of money and date the hottest women?
Not at all. But you come from a place of self-righteousness rather than understanding.
Anyone who thinks "bragging is bad" just proves the OP's point.

People hate other people's success. What they hate even more is people who are proud of their own success. In the blue pill world.. it is forbidden to say "I'm awesome". What nerve!

The higher you fly the more haters you get. And these haters want you to be "humble" to protect their ego.

Just like everyone here is now trying to bring bigneil down a few notches.. the same dynamic happens in the real world. Any crab that tries to climb out of the bucket is dragged back down by the other crabs.. Where the f*ck you do think you're going?!! Get back down here with us!
It should also be noted though that there is a difference between "I'm awesome!" and "I'm better than you". You shouldn't place your value strictly on achievements, value should be something inherently felt too and should be deeper. That's why a lot of lowlife thugs who barely scrape by are getting a lot pvssy; it's a lot more than just what you have done on paper.
 

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You shouldn't place your value strictly on achievements, ... a lot of lowlife thugs who barely scrape by are getting a lot pvssy; it's a lot more than just what you have done on paper.
Well this should be highly encouraging to lowlife thugs.
 

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Pure wisdom.

This is why I tell men to live on their own terms 24/7 when possible. Learn to tell people "NO". Stop fearing abandonment. You have nothing to lose by scaring away people who are only out to bleed you. People are only happy for your success when they see you as someone they can exploit (especially women).

Friendships, dating, etc. are all types of "alliances" we form with other people for mutual benefit. The key word is "mutual". Once one of your friends or plates no longer "benefit" from association with you.. the alliance will be broken. This goes for family too and YES your mother too. Family members that don't benefit from each other typically don't associate. So this "mutual" rule proves true for all human relations.

In romantic relationships, women want you to be "successful" for their benefit not yours: bragging rights, resources, status, security, connections, etc. She doesn't want any other woman having access to these resources. If she cannot "control you" on some level.. it means there is a very real possibility that you could give other women (better women) access to your resources and cut her off completely down the road (another reason women love marriage). When women secure a man.. they quickly move to degrade his self-esteem and turn him into a fearful co-dependent faggot. Most women accomplish this through judgmental babbling, nagging, selective affection and moodiness. Once she succeeds at dominating him emotionally, she can get him to do stupid things that only benefit HER like marriage. Marriage and emotional domination ensures other women are not a significant threat and cannot gain easy access to her man's resources that she wants all for herself. If she has you under control.. she has your resources under control.

Moral of the story? No one gives a sh!t about you. So you would have to be both a sucker and a faggot to live on other people's terms. You are just making yourself easier to exploit. Sure.. everyone will "like you" but not for the right reasons. Respect trumps love. Power trumps intimacy. Why? Because the first two are masculine, while the second two are feminine. Men only "win" when they play the masculine game. Women win when they play the feminine game.
Well articulated. This is why when a man balances his life properly, he is regarded by others with a degree of awe and even slight fear, and causes them to be deferential in their dealings with him while seeking his approval.

I don't know if you'd agree, PK, but I believe that this paradigm of carefully designed detachment and self-sufficiency paradoxically frees a man to be genuinely kind at moments of his choosing, for his own reasons, whether for gain, or selflessly.
 

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It should also be noted though that there is a difference between "I'm awesome!" and "I'm better than you". You shouldn't place your value strictly on achievements, value should be something inherently felt too and should be deeper. That's why a lot of lowlife thugs who barely scrape by are getting a lot pvssy; it's a lot more than just what you have done on paper.
I agree.

At the same time.. people believing they are "better than you" only matters if you believe it too. This is why arrogance and bragging does not offend me. I've had people bluntly tell me "I am a better [insert thing] than you are!". My response is always "Good for you".

Who cares? As long as I'm happy with my own abilities, resources and accomplishments.. I don't really give a sh!t what other people are doing.
 

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Tell us about your personal achievements and how everyone celebrated you along the way. Do you have any yet? What are you #1 in the world at, and what did #2 and #3 have to say about it?

But let's hear from people with rose colored glasses who say we just need a hug and a dorm.
I talk very little about myself on SS, or IRL for that matter--since it really doesn't matter. It's not what I hinge my self-worth on and, in the past, I was narcissistic and dependent on external validation and was always viewing myself in comparison to other people in an attempt to feel superior. I've seen firsthand the kind of epic & highly cyclical destruction that paradigm often results in. My personal life also isn't an area where I need feedback--my day to day is pretty sweet and I'm not looking for internet high fives or specific advice on handling my personal life (though I find a ton of value in other people's perspectives on this forum and have benefited from assimilating those viewpoints into my life). Whether anyone here thinks I'm some nerdy keyboard jockey living in my mom's basement or some high rolling player, doesn't change the validity of what I post--try any of it out for yourself if it resonates with you and if it doesn't, well, you should probably try it on for size anyway ;)

What I take exception to is when people try to force their own limited & often flawed paradigms onto other people, especially when my firsthand knowledge has shown me that those paradigms aren't beneficial and result in more unhappiness and less freedom than in greater happiness and more freedom. I think it's great that you're still kicking it at 46; that's fvcking sweet & is something that should offer hope to the younger guys here by disproving the faulty paradigm that: Youth is everything--and you'll quickly age out of the dating game with hot young girls and if you don't lock one up now...

However, you attribute your success with women to another faulty paradigm: That women are specifically and consistently attracted to a resume list of specific past accomplishments according to the societally pre-approved narrative. Not that those past accomplishments weren't worthwhile in and of themselves (I hope). But you like to beat your chest about HAVING SPENT THE PAST COUPLE DECADES QUALIFYING YOURSELF FOR THE AFFECTION OF WOMEN--and beating your chest that guys like me should do likewise or should compete with you within that paradigm.

But the truth is, those same women you take to four star hotels have fvcked deadbeat musicians or a jock in high school who will only ever make $15 an hour working HVAC the rest of his life or the bouncer at their favorite bar or the guy who rushed the right frat with daddy's money or a thug who happened to have access to coke. You can't use women's valuation of yourself--or especially the things they say specifically to appeal to your ego for continued benefit--as any accurate measure of your self worth in comparison to other guys, because by that measure there are any number of guys that are your equal who didn't work hard for 26 years to fvck those girls. Your ego will rack itself with cognitive dissonance and status anxiety, which is PAINFUL. Status anxiety will compel you to qualify yourself to other people, even anonymous guys on the internet like @fastlife, which lowers your value and will cause you to fail sh1t tests; status anxiety will compel you to compete with other guys who have no interest in competing with you & tool yourself out--but your ego won't stand that cognitive dissonance and will spin rationalization like, Well, it's just because I'm SOOO successful. He was just jealous--that's it. People are just jealous, instead of using introspection to see if possibly you pushed those people away or turned them off and to possibly avoid those unproductive actions in the future.

Being good with women is a specific skill that can be developed and improved and might or might not have anything to do with what you've accomplished with your life. But how might you have lived differently if you developed those skills and developed confidence independent of lifelong endeavors toward financial success? How would you live differently in the future if you made that realization. Of course, society will be happy to tell you to be the workhorse--and guys like you will tell guys on the internet (a lot of whom probably can't see any other alternate paradigms due to inexperience and a lack of exposure), "Man up and work hard, son. And someday you, too, might have a hot girl on your arm," when really you can have hot girls on your arms without putting in the hard work. That's just the way it is. So if you're inclined to hustle, DO IT FOR YOURSELF & FOR YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOURSELF.
 
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I talk very little about myself on SS, or IRL for that matter--since it really doesn't matter. It's not what I hinge my self-worth on and, in the past, I was narcissistic and dependent on external validation and was always viewing myself in comparison to other people in an attempt to feel superior. I've seen firsthand the kind of epic & highly cyclical destruction that paradigm often results in. My personal life also isn't an area where I need feedback--my day to day is pretty sweet and I'm not looking for internet high fives or specific advice on handling my personal life (though I find a ton of value in other people's perspectives on this forum and have benefited from assimilating those viewpoints into my life). Whether anyone here thinks I'm some nerdy keyboard jockey living in my mom's basement or some high rolling player, doesn't change the validity of what I post--try any of it out for yourself if it resonates with you and if it doesn't, well, you should probably try it on for size anyway ;)

What I take exception to is when people try to force their own limited & often flawed paradigms onto other people, especially when my firsthand knowledge has shown me that those paradigms aren't beneficial and result in more unhappiness and less freedom than in greater happiness and more freedom. I think it's great that you're still kicking it at 46; that's fvcking sweet & is something that should offer hope to the younger guys here by disproving the faulty paradigm that: Youth is everything--and you'll quickly age out of the dating game with hot young girls and if you don't lock one up now...

However, you attribute your success with women to another faulty paradigm: That women are specifically and consistently attracted to a resume list of specific past accomplishments according to the societally pre-approved narrative. Not that those past accomplishments weren't worthwhile in and of themselves (I hope). But you like to beat your chest about HAVING SPENT THE PAST COUPLE DECADES QUALIFYING YOURSELF FOR THE AFFECTION OF WOMEN--and beating your chest that guys like me should do likewise or should compete with you within that paradigm.

But the truth is, those same women you take to four star hotels have fvcked deadbeat musicians or a jock in high school who will only ever make $15 an hour working HVAC the rest of his life or the bouncer at their favorite bar or the guy who rushed the right frat with daddy's money or a thug who happened to have access to coke. You can't use women's valuation of yourself--or especially the things they say specifically to appeal to your ego for continued benefit--as any accurate measure of your self worth in comparison to other guys, because by that measure there are any number of guys that are your equal who didn't work hard for 26 years to fvck those girls. Your ego will rack itself with cognitive dissonance and status anxiety, which is PAINFUL. Status anxiety will compel you to qualify yourself to other people, even anonymous guys on the internet like @fastlife, which lowers your value and will cause you to fail sh1t tests; status anxiety will compel you to compete with other guys who have no interest in competing with you & tool yourself out--but your ego won't stand that cognitive dissonance and will spin rationalization like, Well, it's just because I'm SOOO successful. He was just jealous--that's it. People are just jealous, instead of using introspection to see if possibly you pushed those people away or turned them off and to possibly avoid those unproductive actions in the future.

Being good with women is a specific skill that can be developed and improved and might or might not have anything to do with what you've accomplished with your life. But how might you have lived differently if you developed those skills and developed confidence independent of lifelong endeavors toward financial success? How would you live differently in the future if you made that realization. Of course, society will be happy to tell you to be the workhorse--and guys like you will tell guys on the internet (a lot of whom probably can't see any other alternate paradigms due to inexperience and a lack of exposure), "Man up and work hard, son. And someday you, too, might have a hot girl on your arm," when really you can have hot girls on your arms without putting in the hard work. That's just the way it is. So if you're inclined to hustle, DO IT FOR YOURSELF & FOR YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOURSELF.
One of the most insightful posters here. Stated everything I wanted to say and then some.
 

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I agree.

At the same time.. people believing they are "better than you" only matters if you believe it too. This is why arrogance and bragging does not offend me. I've had people bluntly tell me "I am a better [insert thing] than you are!". My response is always "Good for you".

Who cares? As long as I'm happy with my own abilities, resources and accomplishments.. I don't really give a sh!t what other people are doing.
Strong point. This may not have happened to you before but it has to me though. When someone does think they are better than you and you simply do nothing about it, others may start to believe that person too. When that happens, they take you in as incompetent which has negatively impacted me before.
 

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Being good with women is a specific skill that can be developed and improved and might or might not have anything to do with what you've accomplished with your life.
FALSE. Ridiculously, demonstrably, patently false. Women care about status. Try again.

PS - If you were going to talk about yourself, what would you say?
 

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FALSE. Ridiculously, demonstrably, patently false. Women care about status. Try again.

PS - If you were going to talk about yourself, what would you say?
Perceived* status. Men are the ones who ascribe to a logical hierarchy--Oh, you're better than me? PROVE IT. Women never ask you to PROVE IT; they ask you to BE IT. If wealth give you CONFIDENCE, then wealth will benefit your game. If looks give you CONFIDENCE, then looks will benefit your game. But women feel status, they experience status, and except for more mercenary women (gold diggers) and women about to hit the wall or have a baby they need takin' care of (beta hunters) they don't logically compare you to other men.

If you just happen to believe you're king sh1t, even with no logical reference to back that assumption WOMEN WILL BELIEVE IT. It feels that way, so it must be true! By the same token, even if you have model looks and a king's ransom in your bank account, if you're fundamentally insecure girls WILL FEEL IT. No amount of logical reasoning will prevent them from leaving once they've picked up on insecurity or over-compensation, UNLESS they can benefit in other ways--but even then they'll despise you. And if that's your thing, have at it.

It's why I can go up to girls and tell them excitedly, for instance, that I'm a fry cook at McDonald's (I'm not, for the record) and act like it's the most badazz occupation in the WORLD, and THEY LOVE IT. Some of them are even disappointed when they find out after sex that I'm actually not a total deadbeat. It's why you can take a girl out to Taco Bell--and if you believe you're giving her the best experience in the world--she'll think it's the best date she's ever been on and tell you about some dude who took her to a $200 dinner that she never slept with.

As for me, I could tell you I'm a good looking guy--but I'm more proud of the fact that I no longer get any validation based on my looks.

I could tell you how over two months this summer I made more than the median household income in the United States or how I lost most of that money two months later--but I'm more proud of the fact that my opinion of myself didn't change & I enjoyed both experiences equally.

I'm proud of the fact that if I see a girl I want, no matter what the situation, I can put myself in a position to bring her into my life. I'm proud of the amount of rejection it took me to get to that point. I don't score 100% of the time, or even close, but I can honestly say that every girl whose come into my life this past year (for more than a night) brought value to it beyond just showing up & spreading her legs.

I'm proud of the friends I have who've proven to me their devotion. I'm grateful for the low points who showed me who my friends were.

I'm proud of the amount of resilience I've developed--I can't remember the last time I was stressed, afraid, or anxious.

As far as I can tell, all anyone really wants is happiness and freedom. I've constructed my life in such away that I consistently have both. I'm grateful for the fact that I was knocked off the validation-chase I was on for the first 24 years of my life. But more than that, I'm proud of the fact that I've developed a real sense of self-love. Our society's structured in such a way that everyone's looking for permission to love themselves. If I can just make X more dollars next year, then I can feel good about myself. If I can just bang that 10 then I can feel good about myself. If I can just buy that car, then I can feel good about myself. And it goes on forever and no amount of external factors will ever fulfill that void more than temporarily--but it makes for good consumers ;) Not that we shouldn't want nice things or to sleep with hot girls or to have financial independence--but loving yourself is a decision independent any of that & the way we've been conditioned, it's a damned hard thing to develop.
 

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Oh, you're better than me? PROVE IT.
We're asking YOU to prove that you can compete with all of the things you claimed I was bragging about.

I can't prove I'm better than an anonymous person. But to compete with me on this forum, that person must provide evidence that they are a good seducer (for example, showing a girl in the top 1% who they seduced, or an ability to command a huge paycheck, and better yet, a willingness to explain how you achieved those things).

Freedom means having the resources to be somewhat independent. There is no broke freedom.

Resilience? You don't even have the resilience to handle my post.
 

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It's why I can go up to girls and tell them excitedly, for instance, that I'm a fry cook at McDonald's (I'm not, for the record) ..It's why you can take a girl out to Taco Bell--and if you believe you're giving her the best experience in the world--she'll think it's the best date she's ever been on
PROVE IT. This is perhaps the greatest bullsh!t ever uttered on this forum. This is the second place trophy generation trying to imagine themselves a life.

If I can just make X more dollars next year, then I can feel good about myself. If I can just bang that 10 then I can feel good about myself.
False. Making money and finding your dream girl is what life is all about. Those aren't nice-to-haves.
 

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I find this dynamic only occurs when you are progressing and others are stagnant. If you surround yourself with positive people who are actively improving as you are these people root for your success. Rather than having a 'me against the world' attitude, you can surround yourself with a network of like-minded individuals striving for greatness.

The other side of the coin.
oh thank god someone who has a more optimistic (but still realistic) mindset
 
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