These females are just filthy sluts, nothing more..

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JohnChops said:
I haven't seen one positive poster here in awhile.

Should read my threads/replies then. :p

I feel sorry for many of you on this site. A lot of bitter people here.
 

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For about 4 years - I've been single (a few flings, a few close calls, but no one to introduce to mama.)

During this period - I've been a male s!ut. I’ve fvcked at least 20 women each of these years. Some single and some not. Some very attractive; some not so much so.

My standard “date” is them coming over my house – us drinking and talking (call this foreplay).

I always turn the conversation to sex quickly. At first – the women are normally bashful or fake in their answers. I don’t approve of this, and I’ve developed ways to get to the truth.

The first is – alcohol. The more she drinks – the more honest she becomes. This is fact.

The second is – always have a story/answer that makes her stories/answers seem tame. It does not have to be true! I’ve never been in an orgy – but sometimes if you tell a woman you have been – she’ll tell you about the time she fvcked 2 guys at once (Or the time she fvcked three guys in the same day.)

The third is – absolute non-judgment. You have to not judge what she says if it’s extreme, or at least be able to hide it well. For example: I hate the idea of a pissing on each other! Yet, I’ve had women tell me “My ex used to love to piss on me in bed”. And while my stomach is turning to that idea – I just grin and…

The fourth is – act like the s!utty stuff she’s talking about is turning you on…. “oh that’s hot that your ex used to pee on you.”… “oh that’s hot that you fvcked your boyfriends best friend while your boyfriend was asleep on the couch 10 feet away.” … “tell me more…” (you can’t get more information unless you’ve already approved of the previous information)

So from this formula – I’ve had over 100 conversations with women about absolute sex and s!uttiness.

Nothing I read on here makes me mad. I’ve already been numb to it from hearing it from other women. Or doing it with them…

This stuff has made me realize that as a man – worrying about these things in a negative way – is a waste of a frame. I’d rather spend my thoughts on something productive. We are not going to change this. At our core – we are what we are…. And this current society allows for more primal acts.






There’s very few species that have sex when the female is not ovulating – we are one of the few.

There’s very few species that the women normally don’t know when they are ovulating – we are one of the few.

Why?

The same reason there’s little evidence that females of other species have orgasms (especially multi-another worldly explosive orgasms). It’s a bonding experience for a woman. It’s approval. It’s a natural anti-depressant to a woman. Your sex is her validation. Forever and always will be.

It’s even more of a win when the woman is getting hot amazing sex…

How many of you have ever fvcked a woman you didn’t think was anything great, but just fvcked her because she was there and available?

I know I have. And I NEVER give them good sex. There’s a whole host of average women walking around out there that probably don’t think much of me in bed. Yet, there’s a whole host of hot women that know what I’m capable of.

And I think women know this. I think they instinctually know when you’re disconnected from the sex. When all you’re trying to do is get a nut and go vs. when you’re going to fvck her over and over all night.

Women need amazing sex. They ache for it. They literally ache for it! And part of that amazing sex will be that she desires you so bad that she almost orgasms from any sexual attention you give her.

If you are the man that she seeks, if you are giving her your all in bed – that’s the best way to keep her in line. To keep her from drifting away.

But that’s hard work. Fvcking a woman 3-4 times every night – will leave most men depleted of resources to do much else.

Yet, I’ve heard this many times as the reason women are cheating.

“He puts no effort into pleasing me anymore. He used to be so good in bed, we’d have sex all night, but now I’m lucky to get 3 minutes and a good night kiss.”

When she stops getting that amazing sex from a man she wants – her psyche desires it. They need it in a more powerful way than most men understand.

There is a very powerful reason for this. You’ve all heard it before. It helps keep the man around as provider (her subconscious knows nothing of the difference between a one night stand and a husband). And if he’s still fvcking her good – he’s still putting in effort to remain attractive in her eyes – that is beneficial to her and her off-springs survival. Add in that natural selection benefits the s!utty women (the women who could keep sex interesting to a man with wars and fields on his mind produced more offspring than the ones who couldn’t.)

However, society has tried to control female sexuality because female sexual anarchy is a threat to the stability of patriarchal societies (this is why religions always make rules against sleeping with other men’s women.)

Women who are untamed are an absolute threat to the fabric of gender wars between the intergenders (women themselves). S!ut shaming was not a product of men. It was a product of women who recognized that a s!ut is more of a danger to her household than a good “wholesome” married woman who would remain faithful.

This is why when a woman is jealous of another woman’s attractiveness – her first insult is always that the woman is a s!ut/wh@re/sleeps with everyone.

Yet, how quick are these same women to tell you “I’m a dirty bad little s!ut” in bed? (hopefully some of you know what I mean.)

This is because their own underlining desire to be ravaged and given amazing, wild, sex is always there. And as long as you can fulfill that – you can override all the advertising, all the conditioning, all the programming, all the fears… they all disappear….. And her s!utty instincts take over….

Animalistic sex? I’m a fan of that sh!t….

There’s a switch inside of her; if you flip it – she will come out. Her inner s!ut will come loose. It’s just waiting for the right guy to come alone and give her that touch. Give her that grin. So... Give her that; prove you can provide that to her. Then you can… swim in women who will love you for it.






Yet, here we are in another thread, worrying about what we cannot change…

Fidelity is mostly an unnecessary artifact of the past.

You can adapt, or nature will take care of your bloodline itself.
 
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bukowski_merit said:
Fidelity is mostly an unnecessary artifact of the past.
This is probably the stupidest post I have ever read.
 

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This is probably the stupidest post I have ever read.
That's ok.

But, in 100 years - I can see a society where fidelity is openly unimportant. As well as sexuality. It's shifting towards that now. And there's reasons that people in power would like that.

Don't take this as my feelings that this is great and all... I don't approve of what we are... or where we are heading... but when I look at where it is heading - this is what I see....

Stupid or not...

And that's just my opinion.

I could be wrong... But so could you.

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And it's funny... how guys can sit here all day and say "all women cheat"... "there's only a small number of good girls left"

and in the same breath disagree that fidelity doesn't really exist anymore (which would make it what? an... "artifact"... a relic of the past)...

you can hope for it and do things to improve it's chances...

but as a society - and as men here who get to see behind the mask and see the reality.

how can you disagree?

is it just the word "unnecessary"?

are humans still alive? are we still surviving? has the world crumbled yet?

Maybe it will eventually, but it hasn't... It's just a changing society... And unfortunately, we don't get to decide what era of history we live in.

If we did - I'd be a gunslinger in the wild west (probably an outlaw who's dead body would be in a picture on some sheriff's walls)... And none of this would matter at all.
 
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Life is what you make it. Kinda like when you buy a car and all of a sudden you start to notice all the cars like yours. Same with women. You **** a slut.. Then all you start to see is the sluts. If you want a high value woman.. Find one with good core values that match your own (if your core values are high and full of self respect). If you expect sex on the first date don't expect your women to value fidelity.. Because you yourself don't value it to begin with if you enable sexual behaviour like its no big deal. Show patience and self respect and stop enabling sluts.. Don't let your dyck lead your life.

Man I love my wife and am sure glad to not have to worry about this ****. Feel sorry for my 15yo daughter coming into this age of men with no morals and no respect for women who encourage and enable women to be easy then chastise them for being so. Hopefully my daughter finds a real man.. Who won't put up with her shyt but respects her enough to not force the issue or dump her on the first date because she didn't put out.

Self respect people... Life is more than just sex. Men and women are not objects yet I read a lot here from men treating women as if they were objects and wonder why they get hurt.

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For about 4 years - I've been single (a few flings, a few close calls, but no one to introduce to mama.)

During this period - I've been a male s!ut. I’ve fvcked at least 20 women each of these years. Some single and some not. Some very attractive; some not so much so.

My standard “date” is them coming over my house – us drinking and talking (call this foreplay).

I always turn the conversation to sex quickly. At first – the women are normally bashful or fake in their answers. I don’t approve of this, and I’ve developed ways to get to the truth.

The first is – alcohol. The more she drinks – the more honest she becomes. This is fact.

The second is – always have a story/answer that makes her stories/answers seem tame. It does not have to be true! I’ve never been in an orgy – but sometimes if you tell a woman you have been – she’ll tell you about the time she fvcked 2 guys at once (Or the time she fvcked three guys in the same day.)

The third is – absolute non-judgment. You have to not judge what she says if it’s extreme, or at least be able to hide it well. For example: I hate the idea of a pissing on each other! Yet, I’ve had women tell me “My ex used to love to piss on me in bed”. And while my stomach is turning to that idea – I just grin and…

The fourth is – act like the s!utty stuff she’s talking about is turning you on…. “oh that’s hot that your ex used to pee on you.”… “oh that’s hot that you fvcked your boyfriends best friend while your boyfriend was asleep on the couch 10 feet away.” … “tell me more…” (you can’t get more information unless you’ve already approved of the previous information)

So from this formula – I’ve had over 100 conversations with women about absolute sex and s!uttiness.

Nothing I read on here makes me mad. I’ve already been numb to it from hearing it from other women. Or doing it with them…

This stuff has made me realize that as a man – worrying about these things in a negative way – is a waste of a frame. I’d rather spend my thoughts on something productive. We are not going to change this. At our core – we are what we are…. And this current society allows for more primal acts.
Totally totally agree with that, if you show yourself not only non judmental but also intrigued and emphatic toward their perversions they will open their inner self to you.

I have the same experience in this field, heard girls telling me stuff which automatically put them in the fvck buddy zone and yet after me faking approval for such things I scored big with them fast and dirty.

The worst thing a guy can do is reproach or give a bad judment to a girl behaviour or desire, it makes to them what costant negging makes to us, its a deal breaker.
 

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bukowski_merit said:
For about 4 years - I've been single (a few flings, a few close calls, but no one to introduce to mama.)

During this period - I've been a male s!ut. I’ve fvcked at least 20 women each of these years. Some single and some not. Some very attractive; some not so much so.

My standard “date” is them coming over my house – us drinking and talking (call this foreplay).

I always turn the conversation to sex quickly. At first – the women are normally bashful or fake in their answers. I don’t approve of this, and I’ve developed ways to get to the truth.

The first is – alcohol. The more she drinks – the more honest she becomes. This is fact.

The second is – always have a story/answer that makes her stories/answers seem tame. It does not have to be true! I’ve never been in an orgy – but sometimes if you tell a woman you have been – she’ll tell you about the time she fvcked 2 guys at once (Or the time she fvcked three guys in the same day.)

The third is – absolute non-judgment. You have to not judge what she says if it’s extreme, or at least be able to hide it well. For example: I hate the idea of a pissing on each other! Yet, I’ve had women tell me “My ex used to love to piss on me in bed”. And while my stomach is turning to that idea – I just grin and…

The fourth is – act like the s!utty stuff she’s talking about is turning you on…. “oh that’s hot that your ex used to pee on you.”… “oh that’s hot that you fvcked your boyfriends best friend while your boyfriend was asleep on the couch 10 feet away.” … “tell me more…” (you can’t get more information unless you’ve already approved of the previous information)

So from this formula – I’ve had over 100 conversations with women about absolute sex and s!uttiness.

Nothing I read on here makes me mad. I’ve already been numb to it from hearing it from other women. Or doing it with them…

This stuff has made me realize that as a man – worrying about these things in a negative way – is a waste of a frame. I’d rather spend my thoughts on something productive. We are not going to change this. At our core – we are what we are…. And this current society allows for more primal acts.






There’s very few species that have sex when the female is not ovulating – we are one of the few.

There’s very few species that the women normally don’t know when they are ovulating – we are one of the few.

Why?

The same reason there’s little evidence that females of other species have orgasms (especially multi-another worldly explosive orgasms). It’s a bonding experience for a woman. It’s approval. It’s a natural anti-depressant to a woman. Your sex is her validation. Forever and always will be.

It’s even more of a win when the woman is getting hot amazing sex…

How many of you have ever fvcked a woman you didn’t think was anything great, but just fvcked her because she was there and available?

I know I have. And I NEVER give them good sex. There’s a whole host of average women walking around out there that probably don’t think much of me in bed. Yet, there’s a whole host of hot women that know what I’m capable of.

And I think women know this. I think they instinctually know when you’re disconnected from the sex. When all you’re trying to do is get a nut and go vs. when you’re going to fvck her over and over all night.

Women need amazing sex. They ache for it. They literally ache for it! And part of that amazing sex will be that she desires you so bad that she almost orgasms from any sexual attention you give her.

If you are the man that she seeks, if you are giving her your all in bed – that’s the best way to keep her in line. To keep her from drifting away.

But that’s hard work. Fvcking a woman 3-4 times every night – will leave most men depleted of resources to do much else.

Yet, I’ve heard this many times as the reason women are cheating.

“He puts no effort into pleasing me anymore. He used to be so good in bed, we’d have sex all night, but now I’m lucky to get 3 minutes and a good night kiss.”

When she stops getting that amazing sex from a man she wants – her psyche desires it. They need it in a more powerful way than most men understand.

There is a very powerful reason for this. You’ve all heard it before. It helps keep the man around as provider (her subconscious knows nothing of the difference between a one night stand and a husband). And if he’s still fvcking her good – he’s still putting in effort to remain attractive in her eyes – that is beneficial to her and her off-springs survival. Add in that natural selection benefits the s!utty women (the women who could keep sex interesting to a man with wars and fields on his mind produced more offspring than the ones who couldn’t.)

However, society has tried to control female sexuality because female sexual anarchy is a threat to the stability of patriarchal societies (this is why religions always make rules against sleeping with other men’s women.)

Women who are untamed are an absolute threat to the fabric of gender wars between the intergenders (women themselves). S!ut shaming was not a product of men. It was a product of women who recognized that a s!ut is more of a danger to her household than a good “wholesome” married woman who would remain faithful.

This is why when a woman is jealous of another woman’s attractiveness – her first insult is always that the woman is a s!ut/wh@re/sleeps with everyone.

Yet, how quick are these same women to tell you “I’m a dirty bad little s!ut” in bed? (hopefully some of you know what I mean.)

This is because their own underlining desire to be ravaged and given amazing, wild, sex is always there. And as long as you can fulfill that – you can override all the advertising, all the conditioning, all the programming, all the fears… they all disappear….. And her s!utty instincts take over….

Animalistic sex? I’m a fan of that sh!t….

There’s a switch inside of her; if you flip it – she will come out. Her inner s!ut will come loose. It’s just waiting for the right guy to come alone and give her that touch. Give her that grin. Give her that; prove you can provide that to her. Then you can… swim in women who will love you for it.






Yet, here we are in another thread, worrying about what we cannot change…

Fidelity is mostly an unnecessary artifact of the past.

You can adapt, or nature will take care of your bloodline itself.

This post is GOLD. The transitioning to sex talk etc. and non-judgement will pull out the slvt in every chick.


BM get's it. Real recognizes real. Not SS mental masturbation.
 

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Be a good person, not a bad person. That will get you farther than any of the other advice, not just with women but with life. Anybody can be a bad person; it doesn't take much to be a bad person. And maybe some girls will fall for it-but what kind of girls? Do you really want to forever relegate yourself to that level of quality? Look at the title of this thread- would a good person say that? No. A bad person would say it. My point is, try to do the right thing and you will grow in leaps and bounds, not only with women but with life. It worked for me and it can work for you.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Haha, exactly my strategy on first dates. Its amazing what they will admit to you. Great way to screen out the slvts, even though I think women would prefer a more judgmental partner ultimately.
Yes, very good for screening if you're into that (again, i just have flings with women, so I don't care much. I mostly do it to get their minds on sex and to show them I am not the last guy they dated.)

And it can be used to screen for good or bad.

In the 100 or so discussions I've had - 15 or so have turned out to have not lived a very exciting sex life (or just weren't willing to share no matter how much i shared). So, if I were looking for "good girls" - I would have went with them.

Good to see you understand just how easy this stuff is once you get comfortable with it...


And yeah... I don't think a bad girl can be in a real relationship with a man once he knows just how bad she's been in her life lol... Just like a lot of girls will say all day that they don't like when a man acts jealous; but have a girl try to make you jealous and fail and watch how much fire comes out of her (not that fire is a bad thing).
 

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BM, your post is right on the money. I am really working on becoming a dominant animal in bed. I usually would concentrate on just pleasuring the woman. But now I realise they also get their pleasure just from a man's raw desire wanting them.

Now I don't plan to rape these women but a few tips on how you turn things on from the sexual convo to the actual act. I usually let kino do all the work. I will touch them while I am talking about something completely unrelated. Or play games where it eventually leads to sexual touching, kissing or topics related to it. But I feel I need to be more dominant especially in the act. Any tips? I really feel now that I should be using these women to please my carnal desires in any way I please.
 

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Yes, very good for screening if you're into that (again, i just have flings with women, so I don't care much. I mostly do it to get their minds on sex and to show them I am not the last guy they dated.)

And it can be used to screen for good or bad.

In the 100 or so discussions I've had - 15 or so have turned out to have not lived a very exciting sex life (or just weren't willing to share no matter how much i shared). So, if I were looking for "good girls" - I would have went with them.

Good to see you understand just how easy this stuff is once you get comfortable with it...

Hello, Mr.Bukowski

I really agree with your line of thought, after reading the rational male and understanding hypergamy it opened my eyes.

Can you give some tips on how to start a sex convo with a woman? how to bring the topic and your methods, strategies?


thanks.
 

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Darth said:
Be a good person, not a bad person. That will get you farther than any of the other advice, not just with women but with life. Anybody can be a bad person; it doesn't take much to be a bad person. And maybe some girls will fall for it-but what kind of girls? Do you really want to forever relegate yourself to that level of quality? Look at the title of this thread- would a good person say that? No. A bad person would say it. My point is, try to do the right thing and you will grow in leaps and bounds, not only with women but with life. It worked for me and it can work for you.
You forgot that we should take our vitamins and say our prayers... brother... :D

What I do works for me... I'm happy... and I don't see a bad guy when I look in the mirror...

Your judgement will never change that...

I don't believe in an uncorruptable woman... Just like i don't believe in unicorns or dragons...


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But I feel I need to be more dominant especially in the act. Any tips?
For myself - three things shaped my rough sex: 1) I learned how to fvck from watching porn and ... 2) My very first girlfriend ever was ONLY into REALLY rough sex (no foreplay at all). I banged her 1000 times easy... That's tons of practice... 3) I'm very in touch with the primal side of myself...

A book I endorse and other's around here have endorsed is "The Sex God Method"... I don't follow it word for word, but there's a lot of good information there. And it's not only about in the bedroom, it teaches you how to balance everything. And there's a big section on Dominance.

However, Immersion is VERY important for letting the sex flow naturally, and is probably the most important aspect. It's not easy, but once you can just get into the passion of the moment - it's a wonderful feeling.

Here's a writeup on the sex god method: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=162412 (if you read the thread you'll see I endorse another book called "how to fvck a woman's brains out" - don't pick it up... I had only read a few chapters at that point... And after that - the book turns really weird.... Like he talks about freezing his sperm on a spoon and making his woman eat it when he gets home from work. Not showering for days and making his woman smell his BO. And is constantly talking about conspiracy theory stuff, like the government is trying to shut him up or something.... which just seems awkward in the book.)

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Can you give some tips on how to start a sex convo with a woman? how to bring the topic and your methods, strategies?
Some of the other guys can chime in on how they do it. But I have a very easy way (but also a little juvenile)....

We'll start with a few drinks, some flirting, some fun... I have a table in my bedroom; that is where this happens at. this is key to me because they're already in my bedroom. I purposely have no kitchen table so that the woman doesn't ask to sit out there instead. Sometimes women are like "I'm not comfortable going to your bedroom yet" and I'll say "alright, we can stand here and talk." Not many women last more than 5 minutes before they're saying "ok let's go back to your bedroom".

Then we talk and drink, I'll kind of let the conversation wind down so that it's almost dead...

Then I'll say, "Let's play a little 'get to know' game."

"I ask you a question; and you ask me a question."

Then after they agree... I throw in

"but to make it interesting, every other question has to be about sex. I'll start..."

It normally is that simple...

In rare cases the woman will refuse to play it; saying "let's just talk instead", and those dates normally don't go anywhere... and probably wouldn't have anyway...

In some cases - the woman will say "is this just a way to get us talking about sex?"

And I'll say, "Yes... yes it is." with a confident grin...


Once they start with answering and asking sexual questions - sex is almost in the bag if you follow the rest of what I wrote in my first post.





I'm not the smoothest guy when it comes to the kiss...

One day this girl was telling me how this guy once sang to her and how he was really bad and it was embarassing...

So I walked over to her and said "stand up, let me sing to you."

I didn't quite know what I was going to do, so I kissed her. And she was like "that was smooth."

And it was...


But now, I do that all the time, which isn't so smooth...

And it doesn't even make sense...

At some point in the interaction - I go "stand up, let me sing to you." and then I go for the kiss. I've done this on the last 20ish women.

It's been a long long time since I've had the awkward non-kiss... Years...

I think most women allow the kiss even if they aren't really interested. And you can normally tell her interest by how she kisses you.





That doesn't mean that I've layed every one of these women. I've failed plenty.

But the % is solid enough that I don't sway from this much.
 

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bukowski_merit said:
You forgot that we should take our vitamins and say our prayers... brother... :D

What I do works for me... I'm happy... and I don't see a bad guy when I look in the mirror...

Your judgement will never change that...

I don't believe in an uncorruptable woman... Just like i don't believe in unicorns or dragons...
Heh...I don't recall judging you-just what you are saying.
 

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We are our ideas.
Not actually. You could hold a totally wrong belief and still be a good person.

Love ya bro:)
 

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And Mr. Bukowski, I've just ended a relationship with my ex-gf.

Do you have any advice so I can improve as a male?

I'm finishing reading The Rational Male, almost in the middle of how to become an alpha male. and as soon as I finish them I will start reading the book of Pook and the DJBible.

I'm really feeling like **** right now, can't believe how much I was deluded with this girl, she's 26 , a religious girl, strong family oriented and didn't dressed like a sloot. and a 10/10 body with perfect tits, small waist and huuuge as$.

before I've met her I was spinning 5 plates, left all because she was different, seemed like rs material. Sex was fawking amazing, she was a squirter, everytime we had sex she would *** 4~6 times. Once even gave her multiple orgasms.

And out of nothing, sloot cheated on me. I always acted or tryed to act alpha to her, was dominant etc. The only thing was that I was kinda jealous. But she was much more, would call 6x a day and be really jealous because she knew I get female attention.

fuarrk.

I know this ain't the place the steam out, but it fawking suks. and the worst thing is how I learned she cheated. got dayum.
 

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And Mr. Bukowski, I've just ended a relationship with my ex-gf.

Do you have any advice so I can improve as a male?

I'm finishing reading The Rational Male, almost in the middle of how to become an alpha male. and as soon as I finish them I will start reading the book of Pook and the DJBible.

I'm really feeling like **** right now, can't believe how much I was deluded with this girl, she's 26 , a religious girl, strong family oriented and didn't dressed like a sloot. and a 10/10 body with perfect tits, small waist and huuuge as$.
 

Nostalgic.

Don Juan
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before I've met her I was spinning 5 plates, left all because she was different, seemed like rs material. Sex was fawking amazing, she was a squirter, everytime we had sex she would *** 4~6 times. Once even gave her multiple orgasms.

And out of nothing, sloot cheated on me. I always acted or tryed to act alpha to her, was dominant etc. The only thing was that I only took her out to motels (to phuck) and was kinda jealous. But she was much more, would call 6x a day and be really jealous because she knew I get female attention.
fuarrk.

I know this ain't the place to steam out, but it fawking suks. and the worst thing is how I learned she cheated. got dayum.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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