ImTheDoubleGreatest!
Master Don Juan
I don’t think it’s because the blackpill is becoming more common and PUA **** is just dead like that, I think it’s simply because (like another had said) things had just evolved. It’s now no longer about women, it’s more about self-development. Even self-improvement doesn’t quite fit the description anymore because it’s gone past that. There were/are other forums that are dedicated to self-improvement specifically without women, but those weren’t as prominent as forums dedicated to getting laid. It’s just that all of the forums dedicated to getting laid ended up becoming a helluva lot more self-improvement oriented because in the end, women didn’t make us happy, and they helped reveal all of these other shortcomings we all had that were more important to work on, if anything.Yeah, just did a google search and browsed through a few places, and some of them the majority of last posts date back to last year sometime, with the odd post sometime this year. This is the most active place that I'm at. It's more like a tug of war between the blackpill and the redpill. I feel the loss of these boards, and lack of interest in other PUA sites simply means the blackpill is becoming more dominant than the redpill as time progresses and people just give up. Even this board, with posters like @MatureDJ, and what I'm seeing elsewhere, I think it's a matter of time before the blackpill takes over here too.
It’s because more and more men are waking up. No one can deny just how sucky women are nowadays lol. We’ve been seeing major bluepill sites get invaded. guysaskgirls for example has much more redpill stuff on there now from men, and reddit has men who aren’t gonna take **** from women either. ****ing reddit, of all places. Don’t get me wrong, there’s still some beta crap on there too, but now you’ll find people going against the grain. That’s why r/FemaleDatingStrategy was created in the first place. That’s why on social media, the word “simp” even started trending. There were even women who were trying to be feminine tradcons in order to please some men because of it, enough to where the feminists started calling them pickme’s lol (**** those people who created that term, we need more pickme females).I feel like it's already happening. I don't see that many posts about pursuing women on here. The PUA sites actually had things like FR's and pickup strategies...this board is now about incels, simps, OLD, and random stories about single moms. I'm not necessarily complaining. But the PUA stuff was outdated a long time ago, "game" has progressed and there is a bigger division between haves and have nots (technology changed everything).
^^^^^^this is exactly why a lot of strictly PUA websites have died. It’s because ‘game’ has become more than just that.Cause the average man finally understood that its not about what you do or say but what you are (wheter you are born it or became it through many efforts).
Youtube, tinder and free forums where men share their experience made any intelligent being to realize that wining and dining girls while spitting game wont get you laid unless you are well made physically and of decent status...and if you are well made physically and of decent status you dont need "game" anyway as long as you dont screw up.
I dont bother talk about game from years, I would rather talk about how to recognize interested girls from uninterested ones and most of all how to globally improve so girls will be one of the many benefits.
There is no "game" that gets you the women, there is only improving your overall value and women are one of the perks coming with it.
Incel-esque stuff came about after the redpill, not before. They adopted the name “blackpill” too to describe it, but that didn’t really exist beforehand. It used to be used just as a metaphor to describe a really strong/hard/heavy redpill moment or situation; basically the worst of female nature. But then they took it to mean looks are the only thing that matters.I think YouTube has replaced these avenues, for as much demand in PUA is still lurking around. And in general, PUA has shifted over to Red Pill, and thus has gone from a cookbook (i.e., do this and pick up chicks) to a code of life (i.e., be the best you can be, don't take sh!t, it's a numbers game, etc.) We are victims of the same social disease (e.g., feminism, hypergamy, etc.) as our Incel brethren, but the difference is that we haven't totally given up.
That’s why I stick around here too. It’s become more about social skills overall since these are real interactions with real people, even if not face to face. It’s allowed me to become more and improve more because there’s actual dialogue between us. Differences of opinion with different perspectives are what make us improve the most imo.I'm not sure. I wish I had discovered SS sooner, because I started out with RSD (yuck) - their forums were the most toxic place on the "manosphere" that I've ever been to. After RSD, I went to RooshV for a while, which was a godsend of advice on both pickup and red pill philosophy. But now that RooshV is dead, I migrated here, and I'm finding SS to have a more balanced/grounded perspective; while redpill concepts are common knowledge here, they aren't typically forced down your throat as an irrefutable truth.
As for why the other communities died, its probably due to a mixture of false expectations, failure to adapt to the changing social climate, blackpill/true MGTOW indifference, and some toxic/negative behavior from places like RSD.
There are a decent amount of redpill content creators (Rollo, Coach Red Pill, and Richard Cooper) that are still active, although many others such as Chateau Heartiste were shut down, the obvious reason for that is that they were too "blackpill" for the PC-infested world to accept. However, I am not very interested in learning PUA/red pill philosophy from youtubers/bloggers; I much prefer having real discussions with people, because that's the only way you can grow a philosophy and knowledge base - through discussion and discourse, not being told what to think.
I got a question though, were the RooshV forums better than SS? Or is SS better? What do you think?
This wasn’t the case before though, I swear when I read older stuff, dudes posted some stories and I remember reading some WILD shit man, and I’m just like that’s simply not possible nowadays based off everything I’ve been seeing in my own life and from you guys tell me on here. And the thing is, I know those stories weren’t fake either because they weren’t keyboard jockeys trying to sell you something either and actually have sound advice. Idk what happened, things just got so much harder ig.Game used by Chad still works - although Chad would still succeed even without game - but its utility for Normies has all but been extinguished, unless we define "success" as being successful with fatties or single mommies .