The truth is out

[lonelyeditor]

Odd,
Seriously, I don't know what I want. I don't know if I want a relationship or a f***
I don't know if I need help or if I'm beyond help.
I dont know how I got here but I would like to get out sometime
I'm happy I got some of this of my chest, but I feel very sorry for getting all of you guys in it, but I dont know if any of you have been where I'm in now. You talk about success and what to do when there is success, but never about failure and what to do when it hits you hard. Failure has hit me hard and has kept me down for a while.
I know, I know, get up be a man, suck it up, there are mahy girls out there, but that's not going to cut it with me and I don't know what will.

 

[WestCoaster]

It's easy to fall in and out of DJism (long)

One thing that's not addressed on this board is the ability to lose and re-gain your DJism. I lost it for a few days this week -- believe it or not, I've regained it. Now granted, I had some major outside help. I got some serious props at work today -- twice -- and I got a response from a gal on the internet personals; and the gal I puppy dogged down here called me out of the blue today and talked it up with me on the phone.

I respond well to outside pats on the back. Some people have this internal DJ, which is tough to recall on a daily basis. Sometimes I think Pook got out of the womb and didn't cry, but brushed his hair back and said, "Ladies, I'm here." I was probably crying like an SOB.

If you are an editor in the newspaper business, I feel for you. I used to be in that testosterone-laden/ugly women profession where you're working like a slave for no money and having no time to get hotties on the side. I've since changed professions.

Your DJ is there, you might not be able to call it up internally. Seek outside positivity from friends and family and go from there.

This board can give you some good feedback, while at other times you could get reamed. But overall, the feedback here is great!

Funny, I left sosuave.com for about a month and lost a lot of my DJism. Returned to it and got it back!

 

[Don Ronny]

BTW - I am not a good looking guy, but I tag a fair amount of booty these days. So dont buy into this looks thing because girls are more attracted to personalities. Unfortunately for you, the current attitude you have is not very attractive. Face your fears and work on your attitude bub, cuz it really sucks ass

 

[lonelyeditor]

BTW -- Ronny, I deserve some F###in respect!! I may not be even close to the DJ you are, but I do not need any selfish, pompus bastard telling me I'm a numbnuts or a wuss!!!

 

[OddTech]

Originally posted by lonelyeditor
Odd,
I'm happy I got some of this of my chest, but I feel very sorry for getting all of you guys in it, but I dont know if any of you have been where I'm in now. You talk about success and what to do when there is success, but never about failure and what to do when it hits you hard. Failure has hit me hard and has kept me down for a while.

No need to apologize. But take a visit at the Don Juan Discussion Forum, what do you think most of those posts are about? A lot are about failure in some form or another. How many success stories can you count? Not many. Dude, a lot of us fail. And a lot of posts you're reading are about that -- people failing.

Take a look at this recent post by frankcd here. He in his 40s and he's hasn't dated since 1989. (Sorry frankcd for using you, but you are inspiration.)

Does that make him a loser? No, not to me. You don't need all these unneccessary baggage. Treat life like a fun game, don't be so serious about it. As for me, I'm very unsuccessful, but I don't give a sh*t anymore. Heck, I don't even care if I get married. I have other goals in life to take care of.

 

[Don Ronny]

You cant demand respect boy.

It must be earned. Stop getting all pissy and take my challenge. If you are man enough.

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by lonelyeditor
Odd,
Seriously, I don't know what I want. I don't know if I want a relationship or a f***
I don't know if I need help or if I'm beyond help.
I dont know how I got here but I would like to get out sometime
I'm happy I got some of this of my chest, but I feel very sorry for getting all of you guys in it, but I dont know if any of you have been where I'm in now. You talk about success and what to do when there is success, but never about failure and what to do when it hits you hard. Failure has hit me hard and has kept me down for a while.
I know, I know, get up be a man, suck it up, there are mahy girls out there, but that's not going to cut it with me and I don't know what will.

1) If you don't know what you want from women right now...STOP CHASING WOMEN for a while. If you're pursuing something because "it's the right thing to do" and not because you want it, OF COURSE you're going to fail...you're going to FIND ways to MAKE yourself fail. Take a break and figure out what you want. There are other things in the world beside women.

2) Here's what you do when you run into problems and failure...you LEARN from it, then you FIX the problem, and you CONTINUE.

I remember being like you...it wasn't too long ago. It seemed like everything I did, socially or otherwise, was destined for ruin. I used to say to myself, "women just don't like me." I used to think that the world was against me, made excuses for not doing stuff that I wanted to do, and sat around and thought about "the meaning of life."

You know what? I found out what life means. NOTHING! Meaning is something we assign in the course of our lives. The beauty is that your life is a blank slate...and is completely under your control based on the way you see things.

DO something. Don't feel like working out? Do it anyway. Don't have the time to pick up a new book, or learn a new skill, or take up a new hobby? Do it anyway. Don't think you have what it takes to mack women? Do it anyway.

If you run into trouble, don't judge your worth or effort based on your success or failure...failure is a TEMPORARY thing. It becomes permanent when you believe it is, meaning when you give up.

Knocked out but boy, you better come to
Don't die, you know the truth as some do
Go write your message on the pavement
Burnin' so bright I wonder what the wave meant
White heat is screaming in the jungle
Complete the motion if you stumble
Go ask the dust for any answers
Come back strong with 50 belly dancers

-Red Hot Chili Peppers

 

[NMMWCR]

Originally posted by lonelyeditor
Yes, fellow DJers, it's true: I'm a lsoer

You can't spell either. Way to go "editor."

What you are doing clearly isn't working. Have you tried whining, *****ing, and moaning? Maybe you'd get some ass then...

You can see repulsion in their eyes? Women ALWAYS tell you exactly when you fvcked up with their eyes. You're creeping them out. Stop thinking of them as a piece of meat. They can smell it on you, slimeball. Here is what you do about that. Go anyplace there are a lot of people. Shopping malls and walmart supercenters are good. Talk to three women. Any three. Make it three azz-ugly ones since you ain't got enough game to keep a straight face around a HB3. Pay close attention. When you see that repulsed look, immediately cut them off and say "nice talking to you but I gotta run" and walk off. Go write down EXACTLY what you said, did, and were thinking just before that look. When you get a good look at how you are behaving, you'll understand why women think you are such a loser (and why they are right.) Then you can change it.

Not even whacking off anymore? Why in the fvck should any woman want to give you an orgasm when you don't even think you are good enough to give one to yourself? Boo Hoo. Get over it you pvssy.

You have any sisters or female cousins or female friends? Female Sunday school teacher? Friendly female neighbor? Take them to lunch. Come right out and ask for their help. Get them to go clothes shopping with you, to get you a new haircut/hairstyle. Take them with you when you do grocery shopping and talk to women you pass in the aisles and at the checkout. Ask your sister/cousin/friend for an honest critique of your technique chatting up the girls in the aisles. You need someone who knows to tell you straight up what a sleezeball you are coming across as and WHY. Women love taking guys shopping and working on a guy's game. You'll get plenty of volunteers.

Just stop sitting on your ass and whining about what a fvcking loser you are. Yeah, you ARE a loser. Get over it and do something about it, dumbazz.

 

[NMMWCR]

What a difference a day makes.

lonelyeditor, I'm proud of you. You stepped up and told me to fvck off. Really layed into me over PM. Let's review your progress since coming to sosuave.com:

1) You've lost weight. About 50 million Americans are jealous of your willpower.

2) You've developed enough belief in yourself and boldness to step out publicly and admit you need help. That takes major balls, major strength. Not physical strength. The kind of strength that counts. You have become one tough son of a b1tch.

3) You've learned to push back when some azzhole (me) disses you. Way to go champ!

Which one of those three makes a fella a loser? None. You are on the right track.

Let's talk about the two sources of "game."

The first (lets call it GAME101) is the mental aspect. You've been following this site for a couple years. Probably memorized most of the DJ bible by now. You KNOW what to do. But you just can't figure out why in the hell you aren't DOING it!

Which brings us to the second source (GAME202) of game. That's the physical, hormone driven action response. The reason you can't figure out what to do when the pressure is on is this...you are too damn busy trying to figure out what to do! When it is showtime, there isn't supposed to be any thinking. Only doing.

I've got a feeling that you have enough of GAME101. It's GAME202 that needs work. Tell me I'm wrong, LE... There are two ways to work on your GAME202. One is practice. Just go out and chat some women up. Two is tearing it up in the gym. You've lost some weight and seen the benefits of an exercise program. Now how about building some muscle? Go check out DIESELs guides in the Health and Fitness forums. New muscle requires a chemical soup to support itself. Included in that chemical soup is an elevated level of testosterone. Possibly the most powerful mind altering drug on the planet. I promise you another 20 pounds of muscle will improve your GAME202, you will be chemically driven to action beyond your control and current nature (and make you physically attractive enough to women that you will not need game at all anymore!)

The power of words: LE, you are an editor. A wordsmith! How can you not be aware of the power of words at all times??? The power words have over our worldview? The power that words have over women! Using statements like "I am a loser" is sapping away whatever game you do have. Get this: You are not a loser. Losing is an event, not a person.

Calling yourself "lonelyeditor"? Why don't you change that to "friendlyeditor"? That sig line about being ruled by women? Change it Nike's "Just do it." The action step is the very last thing you have to conquer, friend. Put an action reminder at the end of your every post. I don't normally recommend NLP or SS but it is a natural for you. Words are your domain! You need the anchoring, the affirmations, the ability to use your eye for subtely and hidden meaning. I think Ross Jeffries is an azzclown and a conartist but his stuff about building unstoppable confidence with NLP is more than just a sales gimmick, it is solid gold.

Rock on champ.

 

[Thoroughbred]

The only thing that I agree with what you are saying, lonelyeditor, is that a lot of women are taken.

Really, attractive women always have someone. They are either married, have a boyfriend, or whatever. This is true.

If you don't mind going after a chick with a boyfriend then why not try that? In my experience, they are trying to escape from their men.

Everything else- you just need to make a change like everyone else mentioned.

 

[Rahul]

Originally posted by lonelyeditor
Yes, fellow DJers, it's true: I'm a lsoer
I've been coming to this site and collected the wisdom of the group and nothing has happened. I changed my attitude by lightening up a bit. I also starte to work out and I've the weight and I'm keeping it off. I' also trying to go out more to more places instead of the same old hangouts.
So if I made those changes, I should get at least one girl to fall head over heels?
No.
We're back to square one except for the working out, which I still do, but recent disappointments have started to give me some thoughts.
Maybe it's me is the first one, Maybe it's the DJs and experts or just the women.
My answer is all three.
While I haven't been exactly Mr. Swinger, I feel that a breakthrough should have been made. The attitude of you guys and the experts make it seem that anyone can do. Have the self-esteem to go up to a bunch of girls and just talk to one without the friends saying something or a girl by herself who you think is cool but you know she might be busy or have a bf, fiance or worse -- husband and come out with the same gung-ho attitude. And the women, how dare they run my life. I cna't go to sleep, I cna't really eat because of women.
I may be turning into one of those needy guys but I dont care. I want and I need some p***y and there's no way of getting it, because I have no game or nothing in what I do that interest a woman. I can see the repulsion behind a momentary smile, I can see the way they walk faster. It's no coincidence .. everyone sees it. I've learned to suck it up through the years, but I'm starting to crack. I can't do this forever and I'm afraid of what I would do if my lonliness breaks out for good. Masturbation is not as fun as it used to be, I get ashamed every time now. I'm tired of pretending to F***k these broads. now I wnat to and I'm getting to the point where I would do anything for it. So I guess that's why I left this. To vent my anger for the umpteenth time and ask how do you stop from getting to the point of desparation?

Maybe you should try the bootcamp for more drastic results???

 

[sux2bu]

Originally posted by lonelyeditor
If you think about it, women do control ourlives, we're born by them, raised by them and then we try to know and get with them for the rest of our lives ... Very sad

YOU DON'T NEED A WOMAN IN YOUR LIFE TO MAKE YOU HAPPY!!


I've seen a lot of sob stories, but this one is rock bottom.

 

[Bud Wiser]

Originally posted by Thoroughbred
The only thing that I agree with what you are saying, lonelyeditor, is that a lot of women are taken.

Really, attractive women always have someone. They are either married, have a boyfriend, or whatever. This is true.

Attractive women are often taken? Not from what I'm seeing out there. There are more than enough attractive women, based on individual preference of course, available.

Jeez, all you have to do is jump on Match.com. There are literally thousands of them on there. And, yes, most of the photos are pretty accurate representations.

 

[Boricua_33015]

Hahahahahahahaha! *cough* *cough* WAIT! (takes a deep breath) hahahahahahahaha!

BRO!!

What the **** is wrong with you!?!?

Don't you know that bad self talk is lethal to your self esteem!?

Labeling yourself as the "lonelyeditor" actually makes you a lonelyeditor.

have you ever heard of the phrase "what you think, you shall become" ?

Its true, you may be lonely, but its up to YOU to change it.

You gotta fake it till you make it man!

THINK! BELEIVE! KNOW! That you are a pimp!

Lighten up mang!

You have a very negative attitude. Think HAPPY thoughts. Sounds gay right? Well lemme make it even more homo. THINK GAY THOUGHTS!! ("happy" thoughts of course) When you think negative of everything, it shows in your appearance, you carry around a negative aura. What good is a negative aura!?

If you said that you were once a pimp, then you always have had that pimp inside of you. Its not DEAD. YOU (yes you!) are suffocating it!

CHANGE your perspective of life. You may have suffered alot of rejection, as I have, so that may have built up a certain view of women for you. Look at everything from a POSITIVE perspective.

You got shot down? GREAT! That means you have narrowed your choices down by one and your ready to go and mack another girl. Don't take rejection personal. She may be a b*tch anyways.

You may be coming on too strong. You are trying to hard. You may have the mindset of a desperate loser right now, but you can change that. You are what you think you are.

Don't come on to a woman with the intention of getting their number or f*ck closing them. Woman can sense that. Come on to a woman with the intention of having FUN! Throw in humour in your attitude. BIG part of the FUN mindset. Be PLAYFUL with them b1tches. Let everything take its course naturally. Throw in some sexual innuendo when it feels right, and make it funny! Making thnigs funny kills the tension. Basically you can do whatever you want, as long as you make it funny. Funny makes most everything else get over looked and acceptable.

Talk to women just for the sake of conversation. Not just getting some p*ssy. Women are HUMAN BEINGS TOO! Treat them like one. Be ****y, be confident, be funny. Dont be desperate......

..... aahh, I dont know where Im going with this.... I just hope whatever I wrote sheds some light on your problems.

Stop seeing everything black. You need to see the light! (metaphorically speaking).

Remember, fake it till you make it and start beleiving it. That doesnt only apply with confidence. Assume that every girl wants to play the GAME with you. Its all a GAME its NOT to be taken seriously.

LIGHTEN UP!

PEACE MANG! And if you come with some negative bullsh*t again, SHUT THE **** UP!

 

[Boricua_33015]

If you think about it, women do control ourlives, we're born by them, raised by them and then we try to know and get with them for the rest of our lives ... Very sad

^^

This signature SUCKS!

Women have taken care of us as boys (remember BOYS, not MEN), we were born by them, and raised by them. Society has tried teach them to be nurturing controlling.
A girl starts nurturing, controlling AFCs when they are young. Walking all over them and then treats them like doormats. She quickly gets bored and gets tired of it. Later, as a woman (or teen), a DJ comes into her life (ME!) and shows that HE is in control of HIMSELF, and doesn't need to be nurtured. He doesn't let the woman control him or treat him like a doormat. The woman gets intrigued (sp?), quickly falls to her knees and pleases him.

^^

That should be your new signature.

 

[tomyv]

you're not trying that hard!

Damn dude, wake up. Quit blaming women for your problems! Sounds to me like you read all this stuff, but don't practice it at all.

"you're trying to hard"................that says it all, you're not applying the dj skills, just reading them!

Sounds like you need to go through the bootcamp to me.

And renting the boiler room is a good idea. I'm a broker and worked in a place like that right out of college (minus the illegal stuff), and that's the kind of attitude you need.

We all get rejected sometimes. You have to be the kind of guy that just snickers at it. I get a kick out of getting rejected, it's there loss, remember that.

Now go iron you're skirt and get out there.......just kidding, keep at it man!

 

[Psycho`Sexual]

Oh my lord!

This guy is me, from 7th grade. Except hes like 25.





hehe. Bah, I shudder thinking about how horrible I was. I used to despise women. I used to crave attention. I wanted someone to look at me, I wanted a girl to just come up and talk to me, just say "hey," just to recognize that I exist on this planet.

Anything, I wanted people to look at me, to spend more then 5seconds talking to me, to care for me, anything. I wanted people, I wanted social situations.


I had no idea who I was. I was just a blank slate. A wall-flower. The guy who can walk through a crowd of people and then nobody would even know.

The thing I craved most was DEFINITION.

I HATED not fitting in. I craved to find some group where I could say "Oh, I would desribe myself as a skater, or a prep, or a ghetto guy."

I hated being a social butterfly.


YOU my friend are just like this. In fact I'm certain of it.

It's a different "type" of people all together. You see, I thought what I wanted was to blend into some group. To follow around like a sheep.

No. It was my NATURE to be a leader. It was my birthright to START sh1t. I couldn't be happy following the ideals of some "group" of people.

No my friend. You are just like me. You can't be happy walking around behind a herd. You desire to stand out, and be the leader. To create your own herd.

As long as you keep trying to be defined by others, you will never be happy. You must accept the fact that YOU are the leader. YOU need to define yourself. YOU need to define others, and then YOU need to take charge.


Once you finally figure out who you were meant to be, no wonder you couldn't fit in with all the followers.


Think about it. Think back to your very childhood. Think back to when you were 5yrs old. You remember how you were? You were in control.

Somewhere along the path of growing up, somebody convinced you that you could only follow. Such a lie they told you.


Come back to your childish reality. You are in control, you can only be happy by standing up, out of the crowd, and doing your OWN thing.

That is how you ought to be. And all you have to do for this to happen is just accept the fact that it already has.

You are a leader already. Instead of thinking "ohh boohoo I try approaching like "DJ's" say, and it doesnt work" you will think "HAHA, I can approach anyway I want."


Whenever a thought pops in your head reminding you of others, you need to remind yourself that YOU are the leader. It doesnt matter a rat's ass what they think, its not up to them. Its up to you.

Now answer this, you are willing to stand up and define your own world?

 

[Healer]

The real Bullsh1t here is you.

If you wanted a fvck you would go out and get a escort, or fly to Bankcock.

You want love, but you are too scared.

Your selfish and you are pigheaded.


What you need is a swift kick in the a$$.

Problemt number one, You have a fear of emberassment which translates into a fear of rejection.

Go out and Purposely get rejected by 15 women! do it all in ONE DAY. just go out and devote your saturday to hitting up the coffee shops and parks, bookstores, grocerymarts and get REJECTED..

Do this every week, then come here and write down what you did to get rejected... Once you learn to laugh at it you will be ready for the next step.


OPEN 3 women every day, and just say "Hi." its that simple.
go with the flow, if they say nothing then turn away, if they say hi back then smile and walk away. If they start a convo then talk to them.

do this DAILY for 2 weeks and report back here with your findings.


If you will not do this then get the FVCK off this forum NOW and STOP wasting my time and the time of these people who are actually serious about Seduction.. jerk.

 

[lonelyeditor]

Maybe you F***ers didn't see that I kinda woke up by telling off one of you sorry bastards.
That was in PM, but now I have to reply in public.
Who the F*** are all of you? I tell you who. A bucnh of guys like me who used what the other guys already put in. See They told me all the S*** you are saying already.
So I will end this with the same polite saying as in the PM:
DONT EVER F***IN DISREPECT ME AGAIN, MOTHERF***ER!!!
I know what I have to do now, so all of you can really S*** a hard one (I'm sure you all do anyway) So you shut the F*** up because I'll be a lonely bastard who talks negative as much as I want to. So P*** off!!!
THank you so MotherF***ing much for your "input" ladies
And here's the signature, *****es!!!!!! Kiss my black A**

 

[Don Ronny]

you are a pvssy!

I see you were not man enough to face the rejection challenge. You'd rather spout negativity and go with choice #2. Well, I hope this path you have chosen makes you happy, though I doubt it. We all really wanted to help you out, but you are too much of a bytch to handle a little tough love. So be it, lonelymasturbator.

(Shakes head and signs off)