The Truth about Female Attraction & Why men continue to fail with women

[CornbreadFed]

Since men are more interested in sex upfront, they tend to care about physical characteristics first then personality. Women have sex on tap, so they are going to care about their Type first then look at looks. For example, you can be an 8.5 male with a decent occupation & a nice car and still be completely ignored by women because you aren't their type & lose to a guy with less money and less looks. But Chad & Tyrone?!?!?...We will get their buddy. First, let's break it down in to segments.

First, 80% of females are attracted to a guy by convenience & relatability, 10% of females are niche chasing, 5% of females are Chad & Tyrone/hypergamous chasing, 2.5% are chasing after wealth, and the rest are Buzzerbeaters. The conflict is that when a guy struggles with women, the advice he gets from the RP/Manosphere is geared towards the last 10%. Unfortunately, this 10% of women are not in this guy's segment and he will continue to struggle with women unless he wakes up. The last 10% should be mainly aimed for one-night stands and pickup, not for relationships (spinning plates is a relationship whether you want to admit it or not).

Now let's breakdown each segment:

Top 90%

Convenience & Relatability Segment (80%)- These are your basic filler couples met through social circles, references, and warm environments. These girls just want a guy that's similar to them, compatible with their friends & family, and easy to meet. Most women are going to date men similar to them in some form or way or within at least 10% deviation from them.

Niche Segment (10%)- These girls are chasing guys with specific traits that can range from race, personality, lifestyle, hobbies, and etc. If social circle game didn't naturally workout for you then you need to prioritize on this segment if you are looking for a LTR. At the very least, niche max on the dating apps if that's your only option.

These two segments should be the type of girl's approached for LTRs. Instead, men are influenced to aim for the bottom 3 segments from PUA, Manosphere, and RP influences. Next, you are highly unlikely to bag a girl from the top two categories in a club/bar or OLD environment. However, these next 3 segments are common in clubs/bars and OLD.

Bottom 10%

Chad & Tyrone Segment (1%)- These girls are just chasing after Chad & Tyrone plain and simple. What men try to do to get these women is gym max, but it is pointless because these men will never be Chads and Tyrones. You are born a Chad & Tyrone, so it is not just something you can become. At most, you can become a Chad lite, but you will still be easily outdone by Chads. Natural Chads have natural Chad looks and a persona while you will always be a normie at heart.

Wealth & Status Chaser Segment (1%)- These are your women that go after sugar daddies, groupies, athletes, and wealthy men in general. First, there's a clear difference between a normal girl that simply likes money and a Wealth Chaser. A WS Chaser has a strategy & lifestyle dedicated to finding high status/wealthy men while your normal girl just hopes the next guy she meets has money. Again, your typical male is disqualified from this segment because he more than likely lacks money & status to begin with. He might be able to have sex with one, but he will never be able to fully capture her attention.

The Buzzerbeater Segment (8%)- These are burned out damaged women that don't really have type and are just performing a desperate Hail Mary at this point. They have lost the privilege of having a Type preference and are just looking for a nice vulnerable man to leach off of. This segment consists of wall hitters, alpha widows, the mentally ill, losers from the other segments, and etc. These are the type of women that struggling men tend to get the furthest with after swallowing the Red Pill but fail because these women are beyond repair from the start. As a result, it just fuels the Red Pill Rage machine and keeps them in the rabbit hole.

I bet you are foaming out of the mouth right now in reaction to the bottom 10% percentages. Why are they so low if the majority of women I deal with are in that pile? It is because you put yourself in their environment via OLD, Clubs, Bars, social media, and Only Fans. In reality, these are very small percentage of girls, but you make them way bigger than what they actually are through your own actions. Your typical bitter RP male spends most of his day keyboard jockeying RP content, maybe goes to the gym, and spends his time chasing women at Clubs, the Dating Apps, or both due to convenience.

 

[CornbreadFed]

JHC where do you come up with this crap dude. Who fckn cares?

Calling to the kettle black Mr.RedPill

 

[SW15]

Now let's breakdown each segment:

You have something worth discussing.

Convenience & Relatability Segment (80%)- These are your basic filler couples met through social circles, references, and warm environments. These girls just want a guy that's similar to them, compatible with their friends & family, and easy to meet. Most women are going to date men similar to them in some form or way or within at least 10% deviation from them.

Some of these couples form from apps and in nightlife venues. Less common, but still possible, would be daygame venues. Don't forget co-ed sports leagues, which is a weaker social circle option.

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I still think 'Chad' chasing is more common that you think, but that might be because of my experiences as you say.

 

[TheManMasenko]

This website is riddled with black pill content.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

This website is riddled with black pill content.

Black pill has some validity.

 

[TheManMasenko]

Black pill has some validity.

You silly?

This post is worthless.

Instead of offering legit solutions, the poster has us evaluating other people when the fact of the matter is a man or female issue in dating isn’t other people but themselves.

 

[Solomon]

Just came to say I stopped reading OP halfway thru When are you gonna post field reports instead of KBJ stuff all the time?

 

[TheManMasenko]

Just came to say I stopped reading OP halfway thru When are you gonna post field reports instead of KBJ stuff all the time?

exactly.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

You silly?

This post is worthless.

Instead of offering legit solutions, the poster has us evaluating other people when the fact of the matter is a man or female issue in dating isn’t other people but themselves.

The Black Pill is, for me at least, a way of interpreting the world. I don't hold to the nihilistic view that some Black Piller's hold. I do believe self-improvement is a key. However, if you want to get Black Pilled. Hang out with a handsome friend. Or, as handsome friends are rare, watch Mad Men. What happens to Don Draper is legit and real.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Just came to say I stopped reading OP halfway thru When are you gonna post field reports instead of KBJ stuff all the time?

I am in a relationship, so no field reports from me lol

This website is riddled with black pill content.

What is black pill about this post?

 

[BadBoy89]

Your typical bitter RP male spends most of his day keyboard jockeying RP content, maybe goes to the gym, and spends his time chasing women at Clubs, the Dating Apps, or both due to convenience.

What should he do?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

What should he do?

Sounds fine. Gym. Club. Tinder.
I did this. Was fine.

 

[CornbreadFed]

What should he do?

Assuming the RP guy wants a LTR, he should find ways to go for the first two segments. I highlighted at the very least niche max on OLD. If he wants to just hook up then focus on pickup & approach and stalk those venues.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Of course, @TheManMasenko has all of this shvt to talk and he pulls a Danny Phanton when confronted. I am done trying to help the red pill afflicted, I am at an open war with them from this point on.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Saying that most decisions we take in terms of partners are instinct/nature driven is red pill or black pill?

I'm kinda lost with the current shaming threeshold actually given my old age.

 

[kavi]

I joined this forum maybe two years ago to discuss Game.

All I've heard for those years is non-Game concepts like hobbies, money, height, looks.

I dont get why men dont understand Game.

Look let me explain Game easily to you guys.

Lets use the analogy of sports, like Soccer.

Good soccer players have characteristics such as height, strength, speed, good looks. Those all relate to how good a soccer player one can become. But they dont make one a good soccer player. A good looking player can be good for a club as it can get more fans and more money etc, but if he has NO GAME then it cannot work out.

Game is just how good you are at the Game. It is actually a separate thing to those other attributes that can help. So being a good soccer player is a separate thing to being strong, fast, endurant, high jumper, etc. But yes they do help. But aplayer can be fast, strong, athletic etc and still be crap at soccer while a slow fat guy can be better. Skill is a separate thing to these basic attributes.

So Game = skill and looks, money, status, hobbies, race, basically every other thing becomes irrelevant when you just look at it in terms of skill.

I think men are just too lazy to consider the skill element of Game and so take the easy way out and just consider things like looks, money, social status. Only Game = Game, and tbh Game cannot be reduced to these other things even though are related in important ways.

 

[kavi]

And Im saying all the self-improvement advice in the manosphere is **** advice cos it doesnt talk about the Game.

Telling a guy that to be good with women he should looks-max, gym-max, money-max, hobbies-max etc is like telling a soccer player that to improve he should work on speed, strenght, jumping, athleticism but not actually the technical and skill aspect of the Game. Without skill in the Game he cannot get better. Those other things can help but really it all depends on skill level. Skill level is not the sum of the other components mentioned, Skill Level is an undependant thing and it ONLY comes from deep understanding of the Game that comes from studying and playing the Game not doing stuff outside like working out.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Men get better at game by studying WOMEN in the field. Not by studying other MEN. These man bashing threads are a joke. Maybe start a coaching gig

You are the most MEN obsessed on this board. You are either trolling threads or spewing out POOK.

 

[Slowhandluke]

I joined this forum maybe two years ago to discuss Game.

All I've heard for those years is non-Game concepts like hobbies, money, height, looks.

I dont get why men dont understand Game.

Look let me explain Game easily to you guys.

Lets use the analogy of sports, like Soccer.

Good soccer players have characteristics such as height, strength, speed, good looks. Those all relate to how good a soccer player one can become. But they dont make one a good soccer player. A good looking player can be good for a club as it can get more fans and more money etc, but if he has NO GAME then it cannot work out.

Game is just how good you are at the Game. It is actually a separate thing to those other attributes that can help. So being a good soccer player is a separate thing to being strong, fast, endurant, high jumper, etc. But yes they do help. But aplayer can be fast, strong, athletic etc and still be crap at soccer while a slow fat guy can be better. Skill is a separate thing to these basic attributes.

So Game = skill and looks, money, status, hobbies, race, basically every other thing becomes irrelevant when you just look at it in terms of skill.

I think men are just too lazy to consider the skill element of Game and so take the easy way out and just consider things like looks, money, social status. Only Game = Game, and tbh Game cannot be reduced to these other things even though are related in important ways.

I played soccer recreational. The better I got, the more effort my opponents put in. For the top 10% of players, I could never "hang" with them. Same with tennis no matter how I tried.

I'm decent in softball. I use to play a lot in highschool. In our softball league I definitely was in the top 10%. There would be a lot of participants that played softball but could never be able to become good. I gave them tips but they just couldn't do it.

There are somethings people are not good at. And somethings they are. That's life. Being able to attract women and being a good boyfriend are two different skills. Being good in one does not necessarily mean they are good at the other.

My point? Stop thinking everyone can be a "pick up artist". It's an unrealistic expectation for a lot of average men.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Since men are more interested in sex upfront, they tend to care about physical characteristics first then personality. Women have sex on tap, so they are going to care about their Type first then look at looks. For example, you can be an 8.5 male with a decent occupation & a nice car and still be completely ignored by women because you aren't their type & lose to a guy with less money and less looks. But Chad & Tyrone?!?!?...We will get their buddy. First, let's break it down in to segments.

First, 80% of females are attracted to a guy by convenience & relatability, 10% of females are niche chasing, 5% of females are Chad & Tyrone/hypergamous chasing, 2.5% are chasing after wealth, and the rest are Buzzerbeaters. The conflict is that when a guy struggles with women, the advice he gets from the RP/Manosphere is geared towards the last 10%. Unfortunately, this 10% of women are not in this guy's segment and he will continue to struggle with women unless he wakes up. The last 10% should be mainly aimed for one-night stands and pickup, not for relationships (spinning plates is a relationship whether you want to admit it or not).

Now let's breakdown each segment:

Top 90%

Convenience & Relatability Segment (80%)- These are your basic filler couples met through social circles, references, and warm environments. These girls just want a guy that's similar to them, compatible with their friends & family, and easy to meet. Most women are going to date men similar to them in some form or way or within at least 10% deviation from them.

Niche Segment (10%)- These girls are chasing guys with specific traits that can range from race, personality, lifestyle, hobbies, and etc. If social circle game didn't naturally workout for you then you need to prioritize on this segment if you are looking for a LTR. At the very least, niche max on the dating apps if that's your only option.

These two segments should be the type of girl's approached for LTRs. Instead, men are influenced to aim for the bottom 3 segments from PUA, Manosphere, and RP influences. Next, you are highly unlikely to bag a girl from the top two categories in a club/bar or OLD environment. However, these next 3 segments are common in clubs/bars and OLD.

Bottom 10%

Chad & Tyrone Segment (1%)- These girls are just chasing after Chad & Tyrone plain and simple. What men try to do to get these women is gym max, but it is pointless because these men will never be Chads and Tyrones. You are born a Chad & Tyrone, so it is not just something you can become. At most, you can become a Chad lite, but you will still be easily outdone by Chads. Natural Chads have natural Chad looks and a persona while you will always be a normie at heart.

Wealth & Status Chaser Segment (1%)- These are your women that go after sugar daddies, groupies, athletes, and wealthy men in general. First, there's a clear difference between a normal girl that simply likes money and a Wealth Chaser. A WS Chaser has a strategy & lifestyle dedicated to finding high status/wealthy men while your normal girl just hopes the next guy she meets has money. Again, your typical male is disqualified from this segment because he more than likely lacks money & status to begin with. He might be able to have sex with one, but he will never be able to fully capture her attention.

The Buzzerbeater Segment (8%)- These are burned out damaged women that don't really have type and are just performing a desperate Hail Mary at this point. They have lost the privilege of having a Type preference and are just looking for a nice vulnerable man to leach off of. This segment consists of wall hitters, alpha widows, the mentally ill, losers from the other segments, and etc. These are the type of women that struggling men tend to get the furthest with after swallowing the Red Pill but fail because these women are beyond repair from the start. As a result, it just fuels the Red Pill Rage machine and keeps them in the rabbit hole.

I bet you are foaming out of the mouth right now in reaction to the bottom 10% percentages. Why are they so low if the majority of women I deal with are in that pile? It is because you put yourself in their environment via OLD, Clubs, Bars, social media, and Only Fans. In reality, these are very small percentage of girls, but you make them way bigger than what they actually are through your own actions. Your typical bitter RP male spends most of his day keyboard jockeying RP content, maybe goes to the gym, and spends his time chasing women at Clubs, the Dating Apps, or both due to convenience.

Your analysts forgets to factor in the fact that only 60% of men are even dating. There basically very few couples forming in the first place.