The Truth about Female Attraction & Why men continue to fail with women

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Your analysts forgets to factor in the fact that only 60% of men are even dating. There basically very few couples forming in the first place.
So dating meaning committed to someone. What would you define as single for the remaining 40%?
 

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So dating meaning committed to someone. What would you define as single for the remaining 40%?
Sorry I meant 60% of men are NOT dating. Not forming couples. That means only 40% are dating or in some form of relationship. Basically only 4 out of every 10 men are in relationships while the majority are not.

This stat so far has not been refuted and everyone seems to accept it. Try redoing your calculations with this.
 
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Sorry I meant 60% of men are NOT dating. Not forming couples. That means only 40% are dating or in some form of relationship. Basically only 4 out of every 10 men are in relationships while the majority are not.

This stat so far has not been refuted and everyone seems to accept it. Try redoing your calculations with this.
Yeah but single can mean a lot of things such as talking stages, dating around, no strings attached, and etc.
 

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I think men are just too lazy to consider the skill element of Game and so take the easy way out and just consider things like looks, money, social status.
Men aren't too lazy.

Most men, especially nowadays, are terrified of even thinking about improving something like "game" which is akin to social skills.

Their cognitive dissonance won't even allow most guys to even consider practicing something like social skills as a way to be more generally successful.
 

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Women go for attractive men.
most women are sleeping with the same men. That’s how they want it. They don’t want to sleep with an anomaly. FOMO means they want the guy other girls are sleeping with.

Attraction cannot be negotiated, it is ‘PRE EXISTING’ before you open your mouth. It occurs in the first 5 seconds of her meeting you.

you know an attractive man when you see them. They are rare. They stand out. That’s the point. Attraction = you stood out to her Most men are a blur, carbon copies, replaceable. Some men stand out - with their height, looks, style, charisma, hobbies, wealth, popularity, social media presence, accomplishments, occupation etc. it’s usually a combination of 2 / 3 of those things. For example a good looking personal trainer is common. Doesn’t stand out. But a good looking gastroenterologist with conversation skills is rare. It’s about the overall social identity of the man. Around these men, women generally are nice, pleasant, feminine, submissive, accommodating (although may be standoffish on the first meeting due to nerves)


From these men that stand out, it’s then about them knowing how to seduce. There is no ‘game’ beyond just being composed around women, escalating smoothly, keeping the convo going, coming across as safe and not doing/saying things that compromise attraction (being too available, being too open, being boring etc)

that’s all there is too it. After 2-3 dates of good conversation and displaying social value; sex happens. Sometimes it happens faster with lower value girls.
it’s really a very simple process that can be repeated over and over when you understand the dynamics at play. Cold approach on street /meeting girl in a bar/ meeting via social circle doesn’t make a difference. If you stand out to her, you’ll get the number and the process will begin.

Stand out as a man. Hone in on your identity.
then be confident, make approaches, don’t give off any subcommunications of being lower SMV than her.

so, your theory is wrong and over complicated.

caveat - when women hit around 25 (or earlier for girls that have ALOT of experience/cultural upbringing - or later for very attractive women who don’t want to settle yet) they will actively seek men that dont stand out socially, but instead of stand out in terms of being reliable, available, dedicated and well liked/respected - ie good potential providers. however with these men, women will always be more masculine acting and less feminine than with the attractive men they dated previously, expecting the man to accommodate to them

second caveat - women with personality disorders may seek men with personality disorders such as criminals, abusive men etc that don’t fit the stereotypical profile for attraction
 
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I am in a relationship, so no field reports from me lol

What is black pill about this post?

You’re talking about the “dating market” which is not a real thing.

You’re comparing men of different genetics against each other and using tactics such as shaming covertly.

This post does not have much practical advice. You talk about the top 10%, 6ft, “chad” guy who bangs ALL the “average” woman. But In my world…that’s partial true it’s not the end all be all as you claim.

I’m shortest of my current friend group but had the most relationships. The next shortest guy in the friend group bangs the most woman. I can go onnnnnnnnnnn about other guys who are short, broke and fat who get laid somewhat frequently.

Bro you’re even in a relationship lmao. You SETTLED and try to give bs stats to talk about the problem with dating. The problem with dating is BS information which both man and woman absorbed from the media. You can sprinkle some mental issues in there too.
 
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You’re talking about the “dating market” which is not a real thing.

You’re comparing men of different genetics against each other and using tactics such as shaming covertly.

This post does not have much practical advice. You talk about the top 10%, 6ft, “chad” guy who bangs ALL the “average” woman. But In my world…that’s partial true it’s not the end all be all as you claim.

I’m shortest of my current friend group but had the most relationships. The next shortest guy in the friend group bangs the most woman. I can go onnnnnnnnnnn about other guys who are short, broke and fat who get laid somewhat frequently.

Bro you’re even in a relationship lmao. You SETTLED and try to give bs stats to talk about the problem with dating. The problem with dating is BS information which both man and woman absorbed from the media. You can sprinkle some mental issues in there too.
Based off this post, you didn't read my Op at all. Pathetic lol.
 

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Men aren't too lazy.

Most men, especially nowadays, are terrified of even thinking about improving something like "game" which is akin to social skills.

Their cognitive dissonance won't even allow most guys to even consider practicing something like social skills as a way to be more generally successful.
I second this. I was going to say most young men are cowards but it's not 100% their fault. Being raised in an era of social media and online video gaming has probably stunted a lot of people's willingness to put themselves out there. Not just viz. romance but in general. Having an adventure in the real world is becoming passé.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I second this. I was going to say most young men are cowards but it's not 100% their fault.
I don't think most young men are cowards. If you go outside, the guy you first notice is probably the average person. He probably has tried hitting on a girl and has failed - multiple times; after so many failures, a lot have stopped trying in this toxic environment.

Also, men are not suppose to be monkeys. Women need to be involved in the mating dance also. It's also their fault if they wind up alone and unhappy.
 

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I don't think most young men are cowards. If you go outside, the guy you first notice is probably the average person. He probably has tried hitting on a girl and has failed - multiple times; after so many failures, a lot have stopped trying in this toxic environment.

Also, men are not suppose to be monkeys. Women need to be involved in the mating dance also. It's also their fault if they wind up alone and unhappy.
Women are ‘involved in the mating dance’ when they want to be. And they are not ambiguous. However. As women view 80% of men as ‘unattractive’. Most guys will have to put in the lion’s share of the effort.
 

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I second this. I was going to say most young men are cowards but it's not 100% their fault. Being raised in an era of social media and online video gaming has probably stunted a lot of people's willingness to put themselves out there. Not just viz. romance but in general. Having an adventure in the real world is becoming passé.
From a comment by someone on a dating article:: ‘In fact, I think they’ve (young men & women) been trained to see most heterosexual interactions as creepy. This is not by accident, I expect, but it’s pretty destructive given that the vast majority of people are in fact heterosexual.’
 
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