The state of Europe

Stagger Lee

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Jaylan said:
Stagger,

Before you lazily say "the people are not a resource", you may want to look into how agricultural protectionism by first world nations takes advantage of lesser developed nations when it comes to trade.

Research is your friend. The USA and the EU do a lot of big talk about helping Africa and parts of Asia develop, but they have a lot of regulations in place that really hurt the domestic agricultural workers of foreign nations.
What a bunch of baloney. White farmers in S Africa over 100s of years built successful farms from scratch due to hard work and ability. More recently liberals in western nations put sanctions against (white) S. Africa, wrangled them into giving up their nuclear weapons, and forced them to give up power to the African National party of terrorist and communist. Functional farms were given to the Africans and they do nothing but fall into disarray. The white farmers are being murdered. S. Africa now has one of the highest rape and murder rates in the world.

Even mainstream media will acknowledge that the African National party is destroying S. Africa http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/corruption-violence-and-divisions-tears-at-anc-of-south-africa-a-852365.html.


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Nice try but Asia will still be full of Asians, Africa will still be full of Africans, India will still be full of Indians and Israel will still be full of Jews. Did you mean white (and only white) nations will "change" after the re-engineering?
I predict, after they've sown the seeds of change in the West, they'll move on to the one other remaining culture of accomplishment, E. Asian! You know how racist them Japanese are and what with their population decline, they need to be more multicultural! You heard it here first. I don't think it will happen like it has in the west though.
 

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The problem with South Africa is that the black people didn't have any alternative structure or better plan in mind when they wanted power back. All they wanted was "down with whites". Now, the black people are trying to make the same system stay running without the folks who understand the system.

I take that back, they know exactly how the system works, and they work it to the fullest: never mind giving anything back to the tax paying population, just stuff as much money in your pockets (and your friends' and family's pockets) before it all comes crashing down (or you're voted out).

Really, it's the same as what's going on here in the states, except there, they make little effort to conceal or deny the corruption. It's just a smash-and-grab until it collapses. The only difference being that South African blacks stay local and loot their own zone (disorganized). The US, on the other hand, takes the looting show on the road and helps themselves to resources of several countries... while simultaneously looting our own tax base.

Like most of the cultural/social/political discussions in AE, this one boils down to the simple-and-plain issue of overpopulation. Overpopulation, or "people pollution:", turns countries into deserts and folks need to move on to "greener pastures". Mexico? Too many people have trashed the joint. The US had a hand it that by sending our jobs there first, which stimulated their economy and caused a boom in the population (and consumption). After that resource played out, we sent our sh¡t to China, then India, and look what's happening to the economies and population levels of those places. When corporations find an even cheaper labor force, places like China and India will face Mexico's fate, and they'll likely want to fight about it (read: have a war to get rid of the surplus of labor/mouths to feed).

We go in, introduce the capitalist consumption model to "underdeveloped" agricultural countries, the population booms and demands better pay to get better televisions, and we move on. That new overpopulation needs to migrate to continue their new consumption lifestyle... or revert back to agriculture. But farmers aren't sports heroes or MTV stars, so it's time to move to where all the TV stars live!

We have nothing but our years and years of exploitive foreign policies to blame for this. We made our problem. So, Europe? Yeah, they're sleeping in the bed they made for themselves, too. You go putting schools into places and soon you'll have those educated people wanting your job. Don't want competition? Stop teaching people to compete. The whole world listens to the BBC over the radio. Somehow a huge influx of overpopulation is mystifying?

Clearly "we" want this situation: the actions speak louder than the politicians' words. Otherwise, we'd have different policies.
 

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It's not only overpopulation, it's an overpopulation of young men. There are already 106 or 107, something around there males born for every 100 females. In the past this was balanced out by men dying more to the point that countries had at least a balance and more likely a surplus of women.

But in our time there are tens of millions of young men in just China and India who will never be able to have a woman. In just several years there will be enough of them to more than populate one of the larger European countries and dwarf the total amount of young men in the USA. Add that to the male overpopulation that already exists everywhere naturally. It's a ticking time bomb.
 

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The fundamental error is the continuing unjust and unnatural forcing of integration and equal outcomes of two or more groups that are very different and incompatible. This leads to all manner of unsolvable problems.

One of which is population,


As to overpopulation, Caucasians tend to not overpopulate their resources and space. When they sense space and resources are lacking they correctly decide to stop having more children and stabilize population growth. But the elites who want continuous population growth and overpopulation, rather than at least encourage whites to increase their population, seek to increase population growth with non-whites.
 
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