The Secret To A Healthy Relationship

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Burrito Supreme

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Gentlemen, I have here the secret to having a healthy relationship with a woman and it doesn't involve spewing any testosterone or beating ones chest.

You ready?..............communication.

I hear that lots of men are programmed to believe that talking about how they feel is degrading to a man and shows weakness.

If you truly believe that then you are weak.

Let me just say that I am close to turning 30 and I am currently in a LTR and everything is perfect. Very rarely do we argue and when we do its kept civil. We don't call each other names and we don't degrade each other. No verbal abuse whatsoever.

When there is a problem, you communicate it, but keep it civil, simple as that.
 

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Didn't your parents teach you anything? Nothing says "I love you" like broken dishes and things you wish you could take back later. As far as I'm concerned it's not real until restraining orders and the police get involved.
 

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Señor Fingers said:
Didn't your parents teach you anything? Nothing says "I love you" like broken dishes and things you wish you could take back later. As far as I'm concerned it's not real until restraining orders and the police get involved.
Not sure if you are being sarcastic to a certain degree or not being that I don't know you.


If so, then you must like drama to an extent.
 

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I don't know man. Communication is good but if there is no drama, don't things get boring? How long have you been in this relationship? What is the passion like between you? I was in a relationship were there was decent (not exceptional communication). We never really argued or fought. Lack of fighting doesn't mean the relationship is good. It just means you aren't fighting. I'm not asking to be disrespectful of what you wrote. I'm honestly interested to hear more.
 

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For the record, NO I dont like the cops to get involved in my love life, LOL!

To be real tho, anyone will get on your nerves if you spend enough time with them. Its as inevitable as death and taxes. During these moments, I agree we should do our best to be civil. But that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with passionately disagreeing about something and then enjoying some make-up sex afterwards once in a while ;)
 

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Um..

I've never seen anyone on this site actually "beat their chest" or typed about it.

Is that what being a man is all about in your eyes or something?

And no, being self indulgent in spewing how you feel and dwelling on how lousy you feel is less productive than sucking it up and getting things done.

That's what we mean by "man up". It's fine to get emotional but we stress the point not to define your life and what you are through emotions. We as men like to define ourselves by what we do, not how we feel.
 

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DJCT said:
I don't know man. Communication is good but if there is no drama, don't things get boring? How long have you been in this relationship? What is the passion like between you? I was in a relationship were there was decent (not exceptional communication). We never really argued or fought. Lack of fighting doesn't mean the relationship is good. It just means you aren't fighting. I'm not asking to be disrespectful of what you wrote. I'm honestly interested to hear more.
There are plenty of other things to do in a relationship to prevent it from getting boring.

I will call anyone pathetic who justifies using drama as a way to keep a relationship exciting.

We are coming up on the two and a half year mark.

The passion is incredible. We are each others best friend. We make each other laugh and we take some interest in each others hobbies and such.

Of course no relationship is perfect and fighting is healthy to a certain degree. We have our disagreements but thats all that they are. Like I said before, we keep it on a civil level.
 

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Señor Fingers said:
For the record, NO I dont like the cops to get involved in my love life, LOL!

To be real tho, anyone will get on your nerves if you spend enough time with them. Its as inevitable as death and taxes. During these moments, I agree we should do our best to be civil. But that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with passionately disagreeing about something and then enjoying some make-up sex afterwards once in a while ;)
I agree and thats why we make sure to have our seperate lives away from each other so that we don't drive each other insane.

Disagreeing and arguing are two different things, in my opinion. Disagreeing is fines, as long as you don't use name calling or any other type of verbal abuse as a means.

Nothing wrong with make-up sex my friend.:up:
 

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Señor Fingers said:
Didn't your parents teach you anything? Nothing says "I love you" like broken dishes and things you wish you could take back later. As far as I'm concerned it's not real until restraining orders and the police get involved.

Haha, I never thought you'd admit this... but this is true, to an extent.

As Cordoncordon will tell you, what is Love without Anger? :cool:
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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show a woman your weaknesses at your own risk. i don't think anything good comes of it in the long term myself.

nothing wrong with communicating and sharing... but do not ever think of your woman as your therapist.

i say this for 2 reasons...

1) while a woman, in the moment, may bond with you as a result of her maternal inclinations, in the long run she will start to look at you like a weak man / child... and then trouble will definitely start.

2) what is the point anyway? in my entire life i've known two women who actually could give me good advice (and even then, their advice was only good about 50% of the time). women SUCK at giving advice - as such, i see absolutely no benefit in sharing any problems i might be having with them.

the extent to which i need to 'share my pain' with a woman would be as follows...

gf: how was your day?
me: sucked. things are f*cked at work. oh well.
gf: awwww, want to talk about it?
me: thanks, but that's ok, i've got it handled. i could really use a massage though.
gh: awww come here baby, let me make you feel better.
 

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joekerr31 said:
show a woman your weaknesses at your own risk. i don't think anything good comes of it in the long term myself.

nothing wrong with communicating and sharing... but do not ever think of your woman as your therapist.

i say this for 2 reasons...

1) while a woman, in the moment, may bond with you as a result of her maternal inclinations, in the long run she will start to look at you like a weak man / child... and then trouble will definitely start.

2) what is the point anyway? in my entire life i've known two women who actually could give me good advice (and even then, their advice was only good about 50% of the time). women SUCK at giving advice - as such, i see absolutely no benefit in sharing any problems i might be having with them.
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1) I think this only happens when a man doesn't fix his problem, and only complains about it. Nothing is sexier than watching a man rise above something.

2) That is too bad. :)

I think the best relationships are one in which the two people understand each other, including what causes inner conflict. I do agree that the whole therapist role should be kept to a minimum. If you are having THAT much inner conflicts, you should be seeing a real therapist.

Just my two pennies worth.
 

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iqqi said:
1) I think this only happens when a man doesn't fix his problem, and only complains about it. Nothing is sexier than watching a man rise above something.

2) That is too bad. :)

I think the best relationships are one in which the two people understand each other, including what causes inner conflict. I do agree that the whole therapist role should be kept to a minimum. If you are having THAT much inner conflicts, you should be seeing a real therapist.

Just my two pennies worth.

I liked reading this.
Thank you , Iqqi
 

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joekerr31 said:
show a woman your weaknesses at your own risk. i don't think anything good comes of it in the long term myself.

nothing wrong with communicating and sharing... but do not ever think of your woman as your therapist.

i say this for 2 reasons...

1) while a woman, in the moment, may bond with you as a result of her maternal inclinations, in the long run she will start to look at you like a weak man / child... and then trouble will definitely start.

2) what is the point anyway? in my entire life i've known two women who actually could give me good advice (and even then, their advice was only good about 50% of the time). women SUCK at giving advice - as such, i see absolutely no benefit in sharing any problems i might be having with them.

the extent to which i need to 'share my pain' with a woman would be as follows...

gf: how was your day?
me: sucked. things are f*cked at work. oh well.
gf: awwww, want to talk about it?
me: thanks, but that's ok, i've got it handled. i could really use a massage though.
gh: awww come here baby, let me make you feel better.
If you want a long and healthy relationship, then you have to open up to your partner and part of that opening up is exposing your weaknesses to her, but in return she has weaknesses as well and part of a great relationship is helping each other with those weaknesses.Sure its a risk but if he/she is the right person for you, then its all worth it.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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If you want a long and healthy relationship, then you have to open up to your partner and part of that opening up is exposing your weaknesses to her,
That's pop culture thinking. Nothing good comes out of appearing weak. It does not bond nor grow love. We mention our weaknesses to our therapists and healers (they don't bond to us), women are neither our therapists nor healers. They are our lovers.

Unless she's neurotic and will cling to you regardless, or unless she's a dominating control freak, what will occur in time is that she will escalate her "masculine" self to compensate, and that will change the dynamics of the relationship you now enjoy. It could even end it as her inner resentment builds at being made to be the bedrock.

She wants YOU to kill the spiders.

She wants YOU to get up in the middle of the night to investigate the strange sound coming from the living room.

She will resent you if you're afraid and ask her to do these things instead.

The above could be actual, or these could stand as metaphors for other circumstances you face in your life.

The bottom line is that she wants to trust that you will take charge. That you will take on the "masculine" role, not the "feminine" one. That she can relax knowing that you're making the decisions, knowing what direction to take. Otherwise, she feels you floundering and she will have to take charge, and will not be able to relax.

It's not only in your words, but it will be sensed through your eyes, your body language, the tone of your voice.

I hope you're not the kind of person that's so indoctrinated so as to take this description I just gave and knee jerk see it as describing a macho, domineering male, because I'm not... but that you understand I'm talking about male/female polarity.

So watch out how often you express your ambiguities, your doubts, your fears and concerns, and how you communicate them, because, silently, she's taking notes.

Anyway, what you're describing isn't "communication" but that of having certain relationship skills that handle conflict, such as not calling names, bringing up past grudges, going off topic, no blaming, no demonstrations of temper, and knowing that compromise has to be a win-win, not a win-loss.

You may also have been either lucky or smart in choosing a person with whom you don't have too many arguments. However, do watch out for the "conflict avoider", the person who appears to be agreeable but is actually silent about their disagreement because they're too fearful to engage in a debate. From outer appearances, they seem fine, but they build inner anger, frustration, resentment, depression and it's one of the top relationship killers.
 

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Burrito Supreme said:
If you want a long and healthy relationship, then you have to open up to your partner and part of that opening up is exposing your weaknesses to her, but in return she has weaknesses as well and part of a great relationship is helping each other with those weaknesses.Sure its a risk but if he/she is the right person for you, then its all worth it.
http://www.retrorepros.com/images/posters/thumbnails/46525.jpg

by any chance do you have this painting above your bed? :crackup:
 

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Very true. Communication is key, Compatibility is important as well. She has to be a REAL friend to you, and completley supports what you do, and if she does this, and offers you her body, she gets treated like a G0ddamned Queen.
I agree with this as well as with Burrito Supreme's original post.

The key is not so much 'the game' and how many HB's you can get. The true game is discerning and honing in on that one girl that has the inner core values and character that would make her the Queen.

Part of that inner game, and I would suggest the major part is becoming a man that is worthy of such a woman.

Like attracts like and you can feed the negative or the positive. You choose what man you want to be.
 

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Commando said:
The key is not so much 'the game' and how many HB's you can get. The true game is discerning and honing in on that one girl that has the inner core values and character that would make her the Queen.
Are you a woman...?

Part of that inner game, and I would suggest the major part is becoming a man that is worthy of such a woman.
...Or an AFC? Maybe you're just a New Age Sensitive Guy...

Like attracts like and you can feed the negative or the positive. You choose what man you want to be.
That's some bvllsh!t from "The Secret."

Read the rules for this forum too. We know you're a troll, but please just follow the (very few) rules we have here.
 

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Burrito Supreme said:
If you want a long and healthy relationship, then you have to open up to your partner and part of that opening up is exposing your weaknesses to her, but in return she has weaknesses as well and part of a great relationship is helping each other with those weaknesses.Sure its a risk but if he/she is the right person for you, then its all worth it.
"Oh, love me for my defects..." WHAT??? :confused: I'm with Mr. Me on this one, no good will come to this. Whatever happened to mutual respect? Whats wrong to enjoying each other's strengths and positive characteristics? I don't get the who thing of trying to build a solid foundation in a relationship by focusing on weakness. How's that attractive?
 
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