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Originally posted by DJZ
I can't believe I read all that. The original post sounds to me like nothing but a bunch of fantasy - something straight out of storybook. Not surprising considering it was written by a woman. Did you just get done reading a book with a picture of Fabio on the cover? ;) I don't know any woman who's skin is that sensual, or who's hair smells that good. Furthermore, any woman who's hair smells that good, or who's skin is that color, has most likely achieved this by makeup, tanning, perfumes, and diff kinds of hair products. You say beauty can't be bought in a store, yet many of your points pertain to things that are achieved with store bought items.
haha thats what i was thinking
 

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Its bad enough we get pvssy whipped with women based just by their looks, now we have to factor in senusality, skin, laughter, etc etc???

all I read in the original post is PUT WOMEN ON PEDESTALS!!!! TREAT THEM LIKE GODDESSES!!

sure thing :rolleyes:
 

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good day my sosuave counterparts! i had a crazy night out, just recently woke up, and there are a few clouds still misting my mind. but it is time to respond, so please bear with me! (is it bear, or bare?) anyways...

there are a few reactions that have hit on something i was going to include in the first post, but left out. i would like to thank in advance those posters for opening that so nicely for me.

Originally posted by Devestator
We are taught here that we must suppress such romantic thoughts to negate women's power over us in order to be a challenge and approach them confidently. At least that's how I read it. I can love girls like you describe, but not an HB 7 or 9 or any other such object.

AFC's are capable of love and vulnerablity. That's why girls can walk all over them. That part of me has died in order to get closer to my goals. I miss it sometimes though.
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Its bad enough we get pvssy whipped with women based just by their looks, now we have to factor in senusality, skin, laughter, etc etc???

all I read in the original post is PUT WOMEN ON PEDESTALS!!!! TREAT THEM LIKE GODDESSES!!
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Iqqi, either you are very bitter or are trying to make us all have oneitis again. In some ways you have a good point but you take it way too far.

i knew that some of you would immediately relate to what i was saying, and feel the "fear" of unrequited oneitis. i knew that some of you once you began reading and understanding what i was saying, would automatically delegate your defense mechanisms to the front lines.

and not for nothing! because what i am suggesting, is extremely similar to that! when you have oneitis, you are "in love" with one person. and what i am suggesting here is that you fall in love with a woman truly, her features, her characteristics, that which makes her who she is individually.

but here is what is different. this is something to be done with all woman! because simply it is something womanly.

there are two ways to approach that which you do not understand. one is with fear and loathing at what harm it may be able to cause you, and the other is with curiousity and appreciation.

so i can tell from the posters who knew exactly what i was saying, that they are not afraid of women. they are not afraid to fall in love with her smell, her touch, the curve of her chin. the way she pronounces "orange". the little things.

and why are these men so courageous? that is something inside of them, what i think of as essential for a don juan. do not fear women! do not fear falling in love!

"why? why?" you are asking in frustration. and "i am not afraid!" you reply indignantly. "i just don't see why! why should i care about a woman's smell, her touch, the fact that she can't pronounce the letter R?!"

Originally posted by High Voltage
You speak of curves, skin tone, physical attributes. These do not deserve appreciation. They do not dazzle, but things that merely ARE. No more special then a tree. How do these things represent character? They do not. I do agree with you that character is something to appreciate if worthy.
but i could argue that a tree is dazzling! a tree is splendid! many poems have been written about trees and trees alone! High Voltage, what is it that you appreciate? and anyone else who feels the same as him, i would like to know what you feel is worthy of appreciation, if not trees and women.

Originally posted by High Voltage
Pvssy that tastes like an exotic dessert? You've GOT to be kidding me. It has the same function as engine oil... yum, I'll have a bowl!
dear boy! do you even enjoy sex? or does it just serve a purpose? i would never allow such a mehanical being access to the sweet secret lagoon in between my soft silken thighs!

it is about enjoying something fully. and how can you enjoy something if you can not appreciate it? the thing is, if you truly appreciate something, and you lose it, that hurts! and that is a big point here. so some of you will never get past the whys of the matter. why appreciate, if i am going to just get hurt in the end? what's love got to do with it?

but we are only here on this earth for a tiny amount of time, and i say enjoy it to the fullest! what are you afraid of!? in 100 years this earth will no longer know you! pain will forget to hurt you! don't be afraid!

i say love! love the trees, dammit!

Originally posted by DJZ
Furthermore, any woman who's hair smells that good, or who's skin is that color, has most likely achieved this by makeup, tanning, perfumes, and diff kinds of hair products.
actually the things i mentioned can not be bought at a store. natural curves, such as a neck and a collarbone, is what i am talking about. and you have not realized that people have a natural distinct smell? see, you are not noticing things! take time to notice, to appreciate. most peoples skin color is genetic, BTW.

Originally posted by StockTrader
I love the way some girls laugh, I love their soft skin, I love the cute little smirks they can give you. I love the way they smell. I love the way their eyes sparkle when you're out on a date and both of you know you're having a great time and you don't want it to end.
exactly. how to you measure this?

i understand that most people use numbers to generally describe a woman, "in general" being the key words. i'm cool with that! i do that! but my motive behind this was the barrage of posts where many are treating the numbers like some scientific measurement of beauty. the ones who are taking this rating scale too seriously are the ones who are missing out on the elements i am trying to bring back to the light. the bickering over numbers! WTF?

it is like how some here take the DJ bible too seriously, and lose the point.

some are taking this rating sh!t too far, and they are losing the point.

and i propose it is all about fear.
 
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Perhaps I was unintentionally misleading in some of my statements.

I am NOT saying that nothing deserves appreciation but women deserve the SAME amount of appreciation as anything else on this earth. They are not different and deserve nothing more. This applies on all levels unless you both have the courage to tear down mental barriers.

You wish to know what I appreciate? The intangible. I appreciate energy flow and a soul laid bare before my eyes. The strength of character needed on both sides to show all. Nothing hidden. Complete vulnerability. The complete trust and faith needed to show this.

Physical attributes are only the gate and inherently meaningless in themselves. To appreciate a tree you must be able to place your hand against its surface and feel the life force of the entire earth flowing through it, instantly connected to all other living things.

Although some may deem it a "sweet secret lagoon in between soft silken thighs", it is merely a hole that occaisionally drips fluids of various types. It is not special, not a mystical force. Taken the other way, a c0ck is only a pole and I support this too.

Of course I enjoy sex! But again, for energy flow, the mental connection. If you don't have this then it is nothing. It has nothing to do with being mechanical, but seeing that these things are mundane and nothing to be held in high regard.

I still agree with you Iqqi. When you loose something that you appreciate it does hurt, and it is worth it. As you say we are only here for a short time. The hurt makes the bright spots burn all the brighter.

We seem to differ on what we view as worthy of appreciation.

- HV
 

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Originally posted by High Voltage
You wish to know what I appreciate? The intangible.

We seem to differ on what we view as worthy of appreciation.
hmmm...yes, this is the best way to put it! you appreciate the intangible, and i am a sensualist!

i want to feel with my hands, give me texture! and i want to inhale the scent, i want to hear and taste! and see with my eyes! for we are only given this vessel, or temple, of senses called the human body for but a short period of time.

and then! i want to merge the senses! i want to smell the curves i see with my eyes, and taste the voice that sounds like honey!

how about that!?

thanks for the clarification, my intangible-loving sosuaver.
 

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apart from you sqwaking from your perch, and the longwinded attention wh0rish "look at me , look at me" factor that too many of your posts have but are cunningly diverted.

you made some good points.....surprisingly.

but for phucks sake women, straight to the point logical information is all we want, not this sh!t where we have to decipher (destini style) wtf your actually getting at.

what you wrote in that 5000 word "chick" essay, could have been said in 1 paragraph.
 

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actually the things i mentioned can not be bought at a store. natural curves, such as a neck and a collarbone, is what i am talking about. and you have not realized that people have a natural distinct smell? see, you are not noticing things! take time to notice, to appreciate. most peoples skin color is genetic, BTW.
Yes I've noticed that everybody has a distinct smell. I remember what my x-g/f smelled like, and she always used to tell me that I smelled good even when I wore no cologne. She wanted my shirts to sleep in when I wasn't there so she could smell me.

But what you said was a woman whose hair smells like rain and lilies. No woman’s natural scent is that of rain and lilies. How bout their pooh-nah tasting like an exotic desert? OMG, there's no way a poohtang would taste good. If it's clean it might taste neutral, but in no way can I think that it would have a flavor like that of a desert...unless of course she has used some store bought item to give it flavor. Now, any white women who has the skin color of hot caramel has been going to the tanning bed, or has 2lbs of makeup caked on her body.

As far as the curvaceous comment goes, well I agree with you. In fact, I think most guys agree, and that is why they say that Paris Hilton and Nicole Kidman aren't hot. They have no curves! Why do you think men want women with fake breasts! Implants improve curves!
 

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Iggi, your post was excellent.

Excellent as an perfect example of the bulls**t which overawes, intimidates and frustrates men into fear of women, fear of rejection and ultimately, loneliness.

Despite your truly vomit-inducing Mills & Boon romance novel, women are naturally no more clean, no nicer smelling, and no nicer tasting than men.

I hate to be crass, but Im going to be to get my point across. Imagine the most sensual, sexy, lithe, delicate and beautiful woman. Taking a dump. (Apologies, guys.)
 

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iqqi --> Next

Originally posted by iqqi


and how can you enjoy something if you can not appreciate it? the thing is, if you truly appreciate something, and you lose it, that hurts! and that is a big point here. so some of you will never get past the whys of the matter. why appreciate, if i am going to just get hurt in the end? what's love got to do with it?

but we are only here on this earth for a tiny amount of time, and i say enjoy it to the fullest! what are you afraid of!? in 100 years this earth will no longer know you! pain will forget to hurt you! don't be afraid!
Iqqi, I like many of your ideas, reminds me of that Bible post that suggests men to have a "Don Juan Demarco" air in appreciating the beauty of each and every woman we meet. But, the thing with your post is that most of us here, if not all, are here because at some point we were all "I don't care about the pain, I like her like no other, she's special, she's like no other...". And pain we endured. Perhaps like me others decided to repeat the experience more than once :p
This site and the ideas here serve for us to protect ourselves, our mental well being by avoiding to fall in love with the wrong person. By "the wrong girl" I don't mean one that either doesn't believe in God or stuff like that, but rather one who will not correspond to our affection. You are a woman, and no matter how good your intentions trying to help us out here, you will never know what it feels like to be on the unrequited end from a male perspective. So don't go sayin "love, fukk the pain", cause you don't know what it's like. If you ever felt it, NOW we know that the guy was either playing you or was being a challenge. Good for him. Pain won't be here in 100 years. Nor do I care, cause neither will I. We want happiness and do whats best for us.

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Originally posted by DJZ
But what you said was a woman whose hair smells like rain and lilies. No woman’s natural scent is that of rain and lilies.
i took poetic liberty with my wording. maybe i should include a disclaimer next time. bite me. :p

Originally posted by AMF
Excellent as an perfect example of the bulls**t which overawes, intimidates and frustrates men into fear of women, fear of rejection and ultimately, loneliness.
coward!

Originally posted by AMF
Despite your truly vomit-inducing Mills & Boon romance novel, women are naturally no more clean, no nicer smelling, and no nicer tasting than men.
i never once declared that this was a one way street. i inhale, devour, consume, travel my men!

Originally posted by Gonzalo
...at some point we were all "I don't care about the pain, I like her like no other, she's special, she's like no other...". And pain we endured. Perhaps like me others decided to repeat the experience more than once :p
This site and the ideas here serve for us to protect ourselves, our mental well being by avoiding to fall in love with the wrong person.
coward!

JK. just because a woman (or man in my case) does not know how to appreciate your intricities, does not mean you should rob yourself of the pleasure. that is like not truly enjoying a filet mignon because the filet mignon does not enjoy you!

i realize that this is something that could be risky if one is emotionally bereft or challenged. this is just a goal that could be attained.

peace.
 

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Sweet Mother Mary! Talk about thread necromancy. Time for some new material IQQI.

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