The Real Cause of the Pussified Modern Man?

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My guess is that the AFC has been around in mass numbers for centuries. This isn't just a new thing that's popped up over night. What has popped up overnight is the Internet and global communication. Presently we get to interact with people all around the world and find out what life is like for them.

Think about it. Why is Don Juan such a popular figure in seduction history? In his day how rare were guys like him? If a majority of men were like him in the past, then chances are we probably wouldn't have heard of the guy.
 

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Bonhomme said:
I'm convinced it's more environmental (female hormones in food, countless unfamiliar toxic chemicals that mess with our hormones, etc.) than psychological. Hell, in some rivers few salmon are being born male, and many are hermaphroditic. As nature goes, so goes man...

I think these psychological explanations are largely putting the cart before the horse.
It's a convergence of various factors - sort of like the perfect storm.

- Elite-sponsored 2nd-wave feminism (aka misandrism) and all its snowballing effects throughout society, government and academia
- Environmental saturation with xenoestrogens
- Elevated m/f ratio due to elongated peacetime...which shifts the odds and power with women as far as dating
- Digital Age which has helped to neutralize men's physical advantage over women

YUP, it's HIGH time to MAN UP and FIGHT BACK, MEN!!! :trouble: :box:
 

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G-Theory said:
My guess is that the AFC has been around in mass numbers for centuries. This isn't just a new thing that's popped up over night. What has popped up overnight is the Internet and global communication. Presently we get to interact with people all around the world and find out what life is like for them.

Think about it. Why is Don Juan such a popular figure in seduction history? In his day how rare were guys like him? If a majority of men were like him in the past, then chances are we probably wouldn't have heard of the guy.

Do not confuse being a AFC with NOT being a "Don Juan" from the literature.

Don Juan was famous (he is a fantasy as there were plenty of Don Juans back then) because of his ability to SEDUCE women. He was a SEDUCER.


Now, you are correct...we have had AFC all the centuries. But NOTHING worst than now.

We have the most puszified generation in the History of the U.S.

All I do is read the many threads in this Forum (especially the general one) to realize how bad it is.
 

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And it's a lie, the Russians now dominating boxing are good example - we were told for years White men can't fight. But guess what, Russian White men weren't brainwashed like that were they? You can see the result.
The best "boxers" has always being, for the most part, the most needy (economically/socially) individuals in society too.

The great fighters at the end of the 18th and begining of the 19th Century were the Jews, Irish, and Italo-Americans. They were also the poorest of the poorest in America. Then their social/economical status started to move up and then came the blacks.

Blacks social/economical status started to move up once they were allowed to play other (well paying) jobs/sports and once they were allow to have a better education, and then Latinos filled that gap.

And now the Latinos filling that gap are in Mexico, Cuba, etc. (Puerto Ricans are moving up in society too so no much need for them there). But now that the Eastern Europeans are allowed to fight professionally, they are joining the ranks.

Needless to say, Russians are not just white. Many of them are Asian too.

The ability to fight is more of a NEED to fight.
 

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^ Well, yes and no.

SES (socioeconomic status), as well as other factors, do control the flow of players into various prospective sports. And the demographics of those player pools obviously then affect the demographics of the champs produced from them. You can't win if you didn't try to begin with.

However, success in those sports is not a function of SES alone. Genetics and good training play a big part, too.
 

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wayword said:
^ Well, yes and no.

SES (socioeconomic status), as well as other factors, do control the flow of players into various prospective sports. And the demographics of those player pools obviously then affect the demographics of the champs produced from them. You can't win if you didn't try to begin with.

However, success in those sports is not a function of SES alone. Genetics and good training play a big part, too.

Of course.

But my point is that people attracted to the boxing sport (as fighters) are typically people that need it the most or cannot make it under other social door (due to lack of opportunities) or cannot make it to a safers (and more lucrative sport).

Why do you think we have very few BLACK AMERICANS Hwy. Contenders? Because the more athletic ones rather play football or baseball or basketball.
 

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Just curious, thanks.
Average Frustrated Chump.


Now OK, I am buying a lot of this - but why oh why when you go onto a dating site, there are hundreds if not thousands of single women between the ages of 28-40 - some of them pretty good looking (or good at using photoshop).
Don't these women wonder why the hell they are still single? Don't they wonder if they are partly to blame for the pussified men whom they have had their previous failed relationships with.

I get the feeling on these pages that a lot of women that are HB8+ are automatically assumed to be of strong personality - or so used to getting hit on all the time that they can pick and choose. I am sure that is right a lot of the time - but I have seen many whom are just as fragile internally as your regular AFC male counterpart. Sometimes their beauty can be their curse.

Heck - I don't know if I could continually wake up to a women that was better looking than me! Lol.

My big beef is the HBs 1-7 who think they are special. Look in the mirror and step on the scales beeatch - you should be paying us to lay your fat ass! Chuck in a bit of feminism macho hairy armpitted bullsh!t - and you have a woman straight from the depths of hell.
 

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Don't these women wonder why the hell they are still single? Don't they wonder if they are partly to blame for the pussified men whom they have had their previous failed relationships with.
Men are a minority. In my country that has around 200 million people, has around 25 million less men. Men are more often victims of murder, and also, there are too many gay people, even in Brazil, where homophobic is widespread. The fact is, there arent men for every women out there.
 

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Zunder said:
s - but why oh why when you go onto a dating site, there are hundreds if not thousands of single women between the ages of 28-40 - some of them pretty good looking (or good at using photoshop).
Don't these women wonder why the hell they are still single? Don't they wonder if they are partly to blame for the pussified men whom they have had their previous failed relationships with.
Let me tell you that, in over 30 years, I have never met, dated or had an LTR with a woman who made an accurate corelation between her own behavior and any undesireable events that happen in her life.
"External locus of control" is what the psych majors would mutter here.
 

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Latinoman said:
The best "boxers" has always being, for the most part, the most needy (economically/socially) individuals in society too.

The great fighters at the end of the 18th and begining of the 19th Century were the Jews, Irish, and Italo-Americans. They were also the poorest of the poorest in America. Then their social/economical status started to move up and then came the blacks.

Blacks social/economical status started to move up once they were allowed to play other (well paying) jobs/sports and once they were allow to have a better education, and then Latinos filled that gap.

And now the Latinos filling that gap are in Mexico, Cuba, etc. (Puerto Ricans are moving up in society too so no much need for them there). But now that the Eastern Europeans are allowed to fight professionally, they are joining the ranks.

Needless to say, Russians are not just white. Many of them are Asian too.

The ability to fight is more of a NEED to fight.
This is true, the best boxers have always come from the poorest socio-demographic groups i.e. irish / italian / jewish in the first part of the 20th century, and the african americans from the 1920s.

The ex-Soviet bloc is only dominating the heavyweight division now, not boxing per se. Two reasons for this: -

1. firstly the decline of the black american heavyweight. This is probably due to very good black atheletes having more options to make $ nowadays e.g. basketball, they dont have to go into boxing anymore.

2. the ex-Soviet bloc has long had an excellent amateur system, but until the last 15-20 years their fighters were not allowed to turn professional. We are now seeing the rise of the Eastern European heavyweights, who are not nearly as good as the previous generations of US heavyweight champions. George Foreman vs Vladimir Klitschko...................cmon!
 

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"Manly stuff like war movies, sports, fighting movies, scary movies, sports, war history shows, did I mention sports?"

My mother will still not allow me to watch these, and they are often on the TV way past my bed time too. hehehehe
 

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Two words:

Industrial Revolution.
 

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Here are my reasons for why men have become pussified.

1. Women raising sons to be nice and not look at women that way.
a. I had a conversation with my son a year ago and told him you can look
at them as long as you want. If she's got a problem send her to me
and I will tell her to f off.
2. We as men need to have more goals in our lives and make women number
5 on our list vs. no 1 because of our consuming sex drive which of course,
presents problems in our marriages because it's number 1 for us and it
becomes number 10 to them. We need to stand up and punish when this
happens instead of trying harder to get the ***** in bed.
3. An overly feminized/emasculating society that demeans men. Once again,
we need to fight back. We need to put more male teachers in the class
room and counter the effects of female perspective/teachings.
4. We need to as fathers teach our son to be men and talk to them more
and teach them the ways of the world and how to be a man around
women which means be fair, firm and tough and don't put up with their
b.s. We need to teach them not to give into them just to get sex.
5. I have run into a lot of metro sexuals and they disgust me. You talk sex
around them and they think you're an animal. You're right, I fiiing am!
This is why I tell them to grow some balls and take their head out of their
collective asses.
6. We need to challenge our women and make them do things for us. We
need to approach our relationships with the same effort we put into
our jobs and evaluate our women. What have they done for us? What
kind of gift will I get for my B-day, my anniversary?
 

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It's simply the culture. American men are taught to accept bad behavior from women plain and simple. Men are not thought to be superior to women in America. In Mexico and Russia, men are thought to be superior. End of story.
 

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Excellent topic.

In my own experience...

-Not living like you have a d*ck in your teen years! I dont like to make fun, I use to be part of the group, but 95% of the guys online on forums like this, that arent getting anything, are basically immobilized and impotent. In a biological sense.

You cant get out and do what natural intended for you to do. Besides sex...what about holding a breast? What about caressing a p*ssy? What about seeing a girl naked. Nature didnt intend for guys to start seeing girls naked in their 20's.

What about enjoying it? We live in a society, where you're not suppose to enjoy it. It's "sexist". It's not proper.

But truely, we would be dead as a species if the internet guys were all guys.

-Terrible media influences. Either bubbling idiots. The awkward teen. The loser. The slob. Really no good media influences for guys to awaken themselves sexually.

You think the media standard is normal. Or, thats all thats possible. Thus the suprise when you discover kino! Or an opener. Or an advanced technique. Media sets a terrible standard.

-Commercialism makes you doubt yourself. You have to check your acne before you ask her out. You have to check your breath. You have to check your shoes, your car.

By the time you check everything, she's gone and you're 28 years old on the internet wondering what to do.

-Lack of critical thinking, suppression of critical thinking by the media and schools. No healthy 18 or 22 year old guy should be asking what to say to a girl when she calls, at least biologically.

-Scared of sex, scared of consquences.

-Just a tremendous de-sensitization of sex and sexual awareness for guys. Add internet time and screen based lives...not much opportunity to meet girls.

I wonder...how do you get so de-sensitized to girls in highschool? Thats when your hormones are raging. It shouldnt matter if you have acne, if your hair isnt perfect, if you got picked on. Your d*ck would override all that.

Rejections?!? Shouldnt biology override that? You penetrate her. Arent you suppose to deflect all those rejections the same way.

In my experience in middle school, high school, you're so desensitized and lost. So unaware, of even obvious things. Thus the girl that keeps telling you she likes you. Or the girl that gives you a positive reponse. There's a million girls sitting in the corner over there, thinking....what's wrong with this guy?!?But somehow it doesnt register...and you dont remember it even 3 years later.

Also, tremendous lack of initiative. Your mom wonders, why doesnt he get out of the house? Why doesnt he get a girlfriend. And your busy playing an online rpg, or collecting pokemon cards.

I dont know a sad story. Sex isnt the biggest deal in the world. The tragedy is not enjoying it. Constantly doubting yourself. Even if you had a naked girl in your room...is she really there? Maybe its a hologram. Leads to a generation of guys that are desensitized, not living in the moment.
 

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Interesting Topic.

Here is my take.

The problem is a few fold.

One:

Feminism, the empowerment of woman - They no longer depend on men and are equal in the work-force.

And this is coupled with:

The disempowerment of men in society - for example courts, divorce courts, laws and sentencing for crimes in such a way that a woman would get off with a slapped wrist where has a man would get off with the full book.

You see with feminism woman where given power, but without responsibility - it is still Men that will be drafted in the army, it is still Men that are the cannon fodder and the crunch of society and it is still MEN who do the shi* jobs in society - the jobs woman dont do (sewage work, heavy labour, building e.t.c).

Men are still the core and the foundation of society, most inventions and products have been built and created by MAN - take your PC for example, all built by men, even the net and all its works, by MEN - the chair, the table, e.t.c.

What we have though is constant bombardment that Woman are great and men are not so - Adverts depicting woman hitting men with phone books is funny (if you did it in reverse there would be outrage) - TV shows showing P****fied males with the woman at the head of the household constantly demanding and questioning his authority with the man alwasy seeking 'permision' from his female master.

Yes we have male orientated things too, but even these things are more often then not awash with P***y worship and female pandering - Heroic guy rushing head long to put life and limb on the line to win the 'princess' - even computer games have an eliment of that, olden computer games infact the main theme was the main character saving the damsel in distress, risking life and limb to be the dashing hero.

So now we have woman who dont need the hero, woman so empowered that they would mount the horse and save the male, but there is a difference - What you normally find (and dont take my word for it go visit a woman orientated forum) is ridicule of males: Men cant cook, they can't look after children, they cant multi-task, they cant handle a real woman, where are all the real men? - reinforced by such great shows like Ophra and Trisha e.t.c


like all movements woman are treated still like second class citizans in the eyes of the media and in government, but the truth is far from this, because woman and minority groups actually get preferential treatment in society and play on the 'victim' card - Hence leaner sentencing in courts, more hand outs, more government funding for health reasearch (Breast cancer research is around 20x that or prostrate cancer and breast cancer is more or less the only thing men get to hear about) -

Not to mention adverts about child abuse always always depicting the man to be the abuser.

When you see an advert on tv for such things like child abuse, rape e.t.c it is always deemed that the man is to blame - False rape claims for example, the man is spread over the papers and the woman remains anomous - further examples of the minority group syndrome women get to enjoy.

Woman have all the privilage but none none of the consequences. Picture a giant big daddy net over the whole western sphere that helps woman and supports them like a giant daddy would do, but offers the guys little.

Woman are seen has the 'victim' and still are and woman play on this all the time through the media and through TV - Any deviation that the male is infact the victim i.e ****-hold husband is degraded in the news. Dead beat dads hounded, but dead beat mums ignored.

Its all around, it permiates the western sphere like a big cloud of brown s**t over everything and most people cant see it because its always been right infront of your face - Your cant see it for looking.

So we have feminism and woman who have special privilage in society and media and government giving them special privilage too, TV and media making men out to be fools or awash with the dashing hero putting life and limb on the line.

Two:

Music and popular culture.

Music, the poplular music (not underground or none mainstream) the popular social music is: Normally music about how some guy falls in love with a woman - or music about some guy loving a woman - is what sells - Make a love song about woman and you'll probably get to number one, its romantic, it sells and its ok? Or is it?

The problem on one side we have music where men are singing about how much they would die/change/do anything for love - and on the other side we have empowered woman songs - woman flaunting there sexualty - Britney Spheres for example/Madonna/Christine Agulara - all singing about empowerment in some form or other or how there in-charge.

Three

Then we have disney or films about interactions with men and woman and being brought up to believe these immortal lines: 'Woman are suger and spice and all things nice'.

Disney, parents, the media, films, TV, news all of it re-enforces that woman are flowers, delicate creatures to be admired, loved and protected - who like nothing better to do then play with dolls, wear dresses, smile in a cute manner, have curls and pink toe-nails.

Result:

What your left with after this constant bombardment are guys who are so screwed in opinion when it comes to the opposite sex, they simply slot into what others do - like sheep going bah!

'Must treat this girl like a princess, must buy her things, must not offend her, must tell her how much I love her constantly - woman are great, boy am I lucky to have such a wonderful being in my life'.

Lets not forget Sex:

Sex is predominant in our society too - Men are very visual so everywhere you look woman are used to sell things to men and woman - Woman compare themselves to other woman (womans magazines are full of other woman, mens are full of woman) - Marketing are playing on a mans libido, so men are over-charged sexually. Sex is constantly in your face in the western sphere, more so if your a man - Your libido is being pushed to its limit (if you where living in an african tribe, you wouldn't want to f**k half has much as you do) -

So-

You mix this all up, you get men chasing the elusive dream of woman - trying to slot into the Pepsi advert, trying to slot into hollywoods or coca-cola's dream life of what woman are - constantly reading how bad men are and how great woman are - Lucky to find a woman, treat them like they are princesses, each one a flower to not break, to handle delicatly to not abuse or upset or ridicule.

But the truth is further from all this: - p***yfied men are ignored! slaves to society, sheep who bah and try to become something they are not - Just an extension of the society around them - hence why bad boys are so attractive, no one tells them what to be or how to become - they dont try to change themselves for that flower - and its attractive because all around are P****s who will sell the soul for the elusive dream life style depicted by society - Woman are not amazing, they are just 'human' -

If you peel away the layers, it seems like woman are and have been morphed into nice little consumer bots and men slotting in right beside them to win them over - Most woman have no soul in truth, they are defined by the shoes they wear, the shows they watch, the magazine the subscibe to and --- puss*fied men keep trying to find ways to become apart of the womans world instead of becoming part of his 'own' world and allowing woman in when he see's fit.
 

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This is a bit over the top. I don't see why you guys get so damn obsessed with this stuff. It's a waste of time and energy and doesn't help anyone. Chill with the gay fight back crap. Ya feminism is stupid and you have commercials and shows with stupid men. But honestly take more responsibility most girls are pretty nice. And it's NATURE girls always want ballsy men. Even feminists (except the super extreme) become feminine, submissive and wanting to do things for guys they are attracted to.

Really trust me you guys spend way to much time(not all of you just you guys who are f *****ing about injustice and fighting back sort of reminds you of another group doesn;t it?) There have always been wimps guys are a bit more wimpy but thats cuz you gotta grow balls you need hardship and danger thats what makes you tough and our lifes are just too easy the recession should help that out. Take responsibility stop complaining like every girl in the world is evil and they are all *****es like this manipulated man book and garbage you have a mother don't you? really there are some *****es loads of nice girls and the more balls you get and confidence and everything girls are attracted to the less *****y they become and the more nice.
 

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Society and influences such as family and friends bring about the pussiness in men.

"You are who your friends are"

Surround yourself with the people you wanna be like, and you'll soon begin to pick up their beliefs subconsciously.
 
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