THE POLICE TASER CULTURE: Taser vids & Stories

[bigjohnson]

Actually, an off duty cop threatened me with a pistol over a parking space. And this was a suburnban cop who didn't have to deal with big city crime. Actually, the cops in the city have been cooler about stuff than the one's who don't have to deal with anything.

My gut reaction, not knowing you from Adam and seeing how you write, is that you're lying. Nothing personal but stories like this have to be true or false and my experience says the odds are strongly in favor of it being a load of bull****.

 

[Da Realist]

My gut reaction, not knowing you from Adam and seeing how you write, is that you're lying. Nothing personal but stories like this have to be true or false and my experience says the odds are strongly in favor of it being a load of bull****.

Then you may not want to be a gambler anytime soon. But I'm going to take a guess and say you're either a cop or know someone who is.

 

[Quiksilver]

From my experience it depends on the cops approach to the situation, that determines whether he's going to whip out his new toy or not.

Most regular cops I've encountered really try to use words and reason before power. By regular cops I mean the ones who drive around in pairs in their cop cars.

Then there's the Response Unit cops or whatever they're called...

My friend had a huge party at his house a few years ago, for our rugby team. There were like 150 kids there, saturday night, loud music, free flowing alcohol, etc. One of the neighbors called the cops, and it must have been a fairly overreacted call, because they didn't just send a squad car...

They blocked off the street in both directions, I was out on the driveway chilling when they showed up. There must have been about 10 squad cars, a couple in the driveway, a bunch across the street and a couple parked to block traffic.

The funny thing is they didn't even get out of their cars, they had those big lights and just shone them on the house.

Then this black utility truck rolls up and out of the back comes what looks like a SWAT team(it wasn't SWAT, we don't have them in Canada, but it must have been their equivalent). These guys were the real deal. They had MP5 SMGs clipped to their vests, riot helmets, everything.

So yeah, the cars showed up and blocked everything off, then about 10 seconds later the black truck with the swat team shows up and they literally raid the backyard of the house. went around the side, everyone started scattering, and they began grabbing people who looked drunk and stuff. My mate got pepper sprayed in the face, so did a few others. One guy got tasered, he tried to run by them and out down the sidewalk but got hit by the little prongs in the driveway pretty much right beside us.

So yeah, then the cops started moving in and taking people once the response unit sorted everything out and took care of the 'threats'.

I wasn't drunk so they just let me go, but about 40 kids got taken away in some paddy wagons that apparently showed up afterwards.

Regular cops = were fairly relaxed, didn't harm anyone, spoke to people and asked questions etc.

Response unit = they didn't say a word to anybody. They went in, pepper sprayed half the party, pinned some to the ground, and tasered a guy. once the situation was under control they got in their van and left.

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I think cops make up their mind how they're going to react and deal with a situation BEFORE it all happens. So reasoning with them and trying to converse with them is just useless.

 

[The Piano Master]

From my experience it depends on the cops approach to the situation, that determines whether he's going to whip out his new toy or not.

Most regular cops I've encountered really try to use words and reason before power. By regular cops I mean the ones who drive around in pairs in their cop cars.

Then there's the Response Unit cops or whatever they're called...

My friend had a huge party at his house a few years ago, for our rugby team. There were like 150 kids there, saturday night, loud music, free flowing alcohol, etc. One of the neighbors called the cops, and it must have been a fairly overreacted call, because they didn't just send a squad car...

They blocked off the street in both directions, I was out on the driveway chilling when they showed up. There must have been about 10 squad cars, a couple in the driveway, a bunch across the street and a couple parked to block traffic.

The funny thing is they didn't even get out of their cars, they had those big lights and just shone them on the house.

Then this black utility truck rolls up and out of the back comes what looks like a SWAT team(it wasn't SWAT, we don't have them in Canada, but it must have been their equivalent). These guys were the real deal. They had MP5 SMGs clipped to their vests, riot helmets, everything.

So yeah, the cars showed up and blocked everything off, then about 10 seconds later the black truck with the swat team shows up and they literally raid the backyard of the house. went around the side, everyone started scattering, and they began grabbing people who looked drunk and stuff. My mate got pepper sprayed in the face, so did a few others. One guy got tasered, he tried to run by them and out down the sidewalk but got hit by the little prongs in the driveway pretty much right beside us.

So yeah, then the cops started moving in and taking people once the response unit sorted everything out and took care of the 'threats'.

I wasn't drunk so they just let me go, but about 40 kids got taken away in some paddy wagons that apparently showed up afterwards.

Regular cops = were fairly relaxed, didn't harm anyone, spoke to people and asked questions etc.

Response unit = they didn't say a word to anybody. They went in, pepper sprayed half the party, pinned some to the ground, and tasered a guy. once the situation was under control they got in their van and left.

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I think cops make up their mind how they're going to react and deal with a situation BEFORE it all happens. So reasoning with them and trying to converse with them is just useless.

I agree. Sometimes cops are so hell bent on acting a certain way that there is no chance in hell that they'll change their ways. If they want to use their toys they will.

 

[user43770]

I agree. Sometimes cops are so hell bent on acting a certain way that there is no chance in hell that they'll change their ways. If they want to use their toys they will.

Law enforcement is a tough job; you never know when someone is going to snap. Just look at the cops who were murdered in Washington recently. They were attacked solely for being LEOs. If a cop lets their guard down - even for a second - that could be his/her life.

 

[bigjohnson]

Then you may not want to be a gambler anytime soon. But I'm going to take a guess and say you're either a cop or know someone who is.

I never gamble and I don't know any police officers. I did live in a town where the police academy was located for quite a while and of course that tiny town was always brimming with police. They were pretty decent people.

The city is Monmouth, Oregon, in case you're curious.

EDIT:

Maybe you can define "threaten with a pistol" for me. I can't see a police officer endangering his career and freedom over a parking space by pulling a gun on a law abiding citizen.

Response unit = they didn't say a word to anybody. They went in, pepper sprayed half the party, pinned some to the ground, and tasered a guy. once the situation was under control they got in their van and left.

Honestly, 150 people having a drunken party in a neighborhood? Sounds like you were using your brains and stepped away from the epicenter before the inevitable happened to me. I don't know the type of place the party was hosted in but in most neighborhoods that would be pretty unwelcome.

Probably better to find a large place like mine where no one would notice a crowd or rent a hall.

 

[Da Realist]

Well, big, things are different down here since we have cops doing stupid crap all the time.

Basically the guy did everything to escalate the situation. First, I was talking to a friend and just so happened to be standing in a space. Keep in mind there were a lot of other unoccupied spaces in the same lot especially around my car which was not a long distance away from the theather I was at. He was just so determined I guess not to have to walk that he wanted the space I was standing in. After I realized what he wanted, I moved aside and kept talking to my friend about what was going with him.

Now, the guy had his wife and daughter with him and they obviously thought it was safe enough to get out right next to me. I didn't threaten them, keep them from getting out, look at them, or even talk to them. Sure I was a little pissed off that the guy acted like a jerk, but they didn't do anything to me so I had no problem with them. I wasn't even going to talk to the guy.

So the women go on, but the guy decides I guess he wants to talk to me for some reason. He asked "is there a problem?" I ignored him since I wasn't even going to deal with this guy. What am I going to win by getting into an arguement with a fifty year old guy I guess was looking for a fight? I moved so he could park and was less of a threat than him since he was in an SUV.

So I'm just not saying a word to this guy since I'm trying to take the high road, but my misguided friend actually tried to reason with him. Now, nothing remotely threatening was said towards the guy, but I guess he wanted to get "control" of the situation as I'm guessing most officers are taught. Of course, to do it, he flashes a badge and pistol. So for once my friend shuts up and he again asks me if there is a problem. I just shrug and he goes on in the building.

So me and my friend are outside talking about what happened and the guy comes back out with his family to get back in the car. Again the guy wants to talk to me I guess to bury the hatchet eventhough he was the one who started the whole thing. At first, I remained silent again, but then I decided to shake his hand the last time he offered to be the bigger man. Off course when I shook it, I looked him in the eye that he didn't have flash a pistal at me. He said nothing and left.

So tell me where I was wrong and the guy was right. I had already paid for my movie and we hadn't been outside long enough to consider it loitering. The man came to where I was standing, so I was no threat to him especially when he was in a car and I wasn't. I didn't know he was a cop nor did he present himself as one till he flashed his belt line. I made no effort to escalate things. I complied and he pushed everything.

Keep in mind I have nothing against cops in general, but I hate the ones who abuse their position.

 

[PRMoon]

Law enforcement is a tough job; you never know when someone is going to snap. Just look at the cops who were murdered in Washington recently. They were attacked solely for being LEOs. If a cop lets their guard down - even for a second - that could be his/her life.

This guy has the right Idea. Being a law enforcement officer is a very tough job. You literally have to put your life on the line on a daily basis. I doubt any of you can say the same about your "stressful" job.

I'll admit right out, I know a ton of police officers. They are my friends and I enjoy their company. They work daily to keep the peace and keep us safe. Safe from who you ask? THEY KEEP US SAFE FROM CRIMINALS! You guys have no idea how dangerous the criminal element is do you? I use to distribute cocaine and I have come across guys who are ruthless killers to a t. Do you really think your second amendment right is going to come in handy when a group of criminals blaze up your house with automatic weapons? I can tell you now that it wont.

Take guns and tasers away from cops? You've gotta be kidding me. Does anyone remember what happened when those two bank robbers in cali stormed a bank of america with an arsenal of automatic weapons? An entire division of police officers were completely out matched. Even with guns they were ineffective. If you take guns away from cops the criminal element will blow itself out of control and ruin lives far more then a few incidents of cops getting a bit out of hand with tasers.

 

[bigjohnson]

.... he flashes a badge and pistol.

Ah, so he shows you his credentials, the way I read it earlier it sounded like you were saying he pulled a gun on you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I don't think an off duty cop flashing a badge and a (stowed) gun is that big a deal.

Pulling it, that's huge.

 

[Da Realist]

Ah, so he shows you his credentials, the way I read it earlier it sounded like you were saying he pulled a gun on you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I don't think an off duty cop flashing a badge and a (stowed) gun is that big a deal.

Pulling it, that's huge.

It is to me. That's no different than me trying to use my size to get imtidate someone into giving me something. I don't do it to people and I expect the same respect back. Also, I look at the fact he went out of his way to do it when the situation was already defused in the sense he could have kept walking. What I really think is that he wanted, and what he was betting on, was that I would get loud and unruly with him so he have cause to find out why I was in the area, search me and friend, and find something to charge us with.

Of course to me, if he wanted to find out was going on, do it officially and professionally. You don't put your family in harms way to catch a couple guys or just to act tough. Get your buddy patrolling the lot to act instead of making your department look bad if you don't present yourself as a cop right off.

 

[bigjohnson]

It is to me. That's no different than me trying to use my size to get imtidate someone into giving me something.

No, he already had the parking spot. What more do you imagine he wanted? Maybe he was worried you'd screw with his car.

 

[Da Realist]

No, he already had the parking spot. What more do you imagine he wanted? Maybe he was worried you'd screw with his car.

If he were that worried, why sit there and wait for me to move so he could part? Again, he put himself in the situation when there were other open spaces near by. And he kept pushing I guess either for the above mentioned explanation or what he felt like was respect when I was content to let everything go.

 

[bigjohnson]

If he were that worried, why sit there and wait for me to move so he could part?

Well it sounds like we're not dealing with a rocket scientist here, but I don't see this (as described) as a huge deal. There are rules that people with carry licenses have to observe and some of them involve when showing a firearm is coercion via brandishing. This doesn't sound like such a case but I'm not a lawyer.

 

[The Piano Master]

Well it sounds like we're not dealing with a rocket scientist here, but I don't see this (as described) as a huge deal. There are rules that people with carry licenses have to observe and some of them involve when showing a firearm is coercion via brandishing. This doesn't sound like such a case but I'm not a lawyer.

There is no need for sarcasm in this thread, my friend. We are all working together against this system of power mongering.

 

[bigjohnson]

There is no need for sarcasm in this thread, my friend. We are all working together against this system of power mongering.

There is zero sarcasm in the quoted text. Enjoy.

 

[The Piano Master]

There is zero sarcasm in the quoted text. Enjoy.

 

[bigjohnson]

Look, I don't know what the problem seems to be, but maybe you should brush up on what sarcasm is and them tell me what you really have an issue with.

"Sarcasm: Saying something that is opposite of what is intended to be meant;"

I said what I meant and I meant what I said. If you have some issue with that, then let's discuss that like adults, but I did not employ any sarcasm.

 

[The Piano Master]

Look, I don't know what the problem seems to be, but maybe you should brush up on what sarcasm is and them tell me what you really have an issue with.

"Sarcasm: Saying something that is opposite of what is intended to be meant;"

I said what I meant and I meant what I said. If you have some issue with that, then let's discuss that like adults, but I did not employ any sarcasm.

:nono: :nono: :nono:

 

[BlakeW5]

Soooo, how many of you have actually been tazed or had a gun pointed at you by a cop? Or better yet, have you ever experienced a day as a cop? Cause I guarantee that job is REALLY ****ing stressful and a lot more dangerous than you think.

Evzone is right...take a trip to North Korea and find out what oppression really is.

Oh, and one more thing...there's no conspiracy!!!

Right here. I've had a gun pointed at me by a cop on two situations. One, I was going 10 mph over the speed limit, pulled over only to have a gun pointed at me. The second was similar. There had been a report of street racing. I drive a camaro painted like a checkered flag so naturally I was a target. They question me, I tell em where I'd been. One of the short, douche cops (state boys) decided he didn't like me calling him a liar and figured he'd teach me a lesson by putting a gun in my face. So yeah, I'm not too fond of cops.

I will agree though, our town cops are VERY cool. Our state cops are a different story.

I don't want to here any of this "they have a stressful job" BS either. They knew what they were signing up for. I feel the same way about military guys who protest going to war. Don't f*cking sign up for the job and take the pay checks if you don't like what the job involves. The danger is part of it, if that's not for you find a "safe" job somewhere else as opposed to taking your frustration out on people who've done nothing wrong besides breaking a speed limit.

The "blue brotherhood" is more concerned with watching each other's backs than helping "civilians". I've yet to see a cop save anyone's life, I've seen them come in to clean up the mess but that's it. They're good at solving crimes sure, but piss poor at preventing them (which I'm pretty sure is their job).

When it comes to protecting myself and my family/friends that's a job I can handle by myself, but then again I haven't been castrated by society yet.

 

[bigjohnson]

:nono: :nono: :nono:

Dude, what? Seriously, you're able to form sentences I'm assuming, so give it a shot and tell me where you disagree with me. This sign language thing is just silly.