The plight of African Americans in game

[backbreaker]

DAmmit iw as posting in the other thread before it got locked. Seriously guys come on. chill out. you are better than htis flaming BS back and forth. There are real issues that need to be discussed because anytime anyone puts the word race/black/white into a thread it turns into a epic flame war. That does nothing but hurt people that need to read stuff

I want to try to explain something that Arcbond broght up in the other thread

You say race isn't an issue and at the same time you complain about race and your white bethren who have it easy. Which is it.

You keep saying race isn't jack sh!t but almost every thread about race I see you are one of the first persons in using the race card.

Stick to video field logs. This complaining about what your "white bethren" need to "aknolwedged" doesn't suit someone who's done so much like you.

The truth is, both of you are right. I know exactly what Solomon is TRYING to say so I'm going try to explain it in a more clearer manner.

You guys know, I have a white wife. she's pretty hot. I can come here and easily say that race does not matter. And honestly, that's my viewpoint at this point in my life. It doesn't matter. Generally speaking a girl is going to give me run if I make a run at her, race be damned. And she will tell me all the time oh backbreaker I love you regardless if you are green, blue, whatever. Yeah okay lol.

Here is the thing. I'm a catch. I'm a real life, catch. For the girl that brought me to this site, who is half white / half Colombian, to even give me the ****ing time of day I had to basically become, like 10x better than the guys she were dating. It wasn't until I made money, got in shape, honed my game and worked my game on her for some months that she begin to see me as anything more than a friend. While dating some pretty pedestrian white guys.


I've met my wife's exs. Pretty avg mother****ing white guys lol. I mean there is nothing wrong with them but, they aren't on my level. If I didn't work out daily, if I didn't have a big bank account, if I wasn't good looking, my wife would not give my black ass the time of day lol. I know this for 100000% fact. Doesn't mean she wouldn't think i wasn't interesting or neat or a good person she just would not spread her legs for me.


What Solomon is trying to say is that if you are a for lack of a better word, avg black guy who isn't Tyson Beckford or isn't rich or isn't famous, and even wrose, if you are a NERDY black guy like I am lol, the game is 10x harder


See this is what solmon is tryig to say. there is a ocean full of ***** for avg ass white guys lol. If you are a nerd, there are white girls that like nerds. IF you are a jock there are white girls that like jocks. If you are a motocycle guy there are white girls that like motocycles.


If you are an intelligent, yet not well off / good looking black guy you are SOL. Because because there is a desert full of black women that want you. I mean, FAT white women don't even like you. Neither do fat black women.

I can truely say that when I was in my first business and broke and a little overweight, NO one hit on me. not fat women, not black women, not white women, not nerdy women, no one. It wasn't that I was repulsive. I just didn't fit in anywhere.

That is the main reason I went so long without dates when I started my business. I'm a nerd. When I was in high school and I wear braids in my hair and timbos all the time i Had cute white girls and black girls all over me. when i cleaned up my image, cut my hair, and picked up some books the well dried up seriously.

Especially if you live in the south. You can forget it.


It's like.. I got this friend named Kevin. And like I mean, he's not stupid. He's a pretty good looking guy. But he's spoiled rotten. His dad died and left him like close to a million dollars, dude has some bull**** job but pushes a BMW convertible and leaves his BS job and goes to play golf like 6 days a week lol. I mean, seriously he's a cool guy but he's the guy who always wants to talk to you about how great god is and how all you have to do is have faith and everything you want will come to you lol and i mean that's kinda the deal here. It's easy to say that all you have to do is have faith when you were born with every ****ing advantage ever lol. Let me see how much faith you have if you were broke, ugly and stupid, or if your late father didn't bail you out of jail every time you ****ed up and let you stay at home with him until you got on your feet.


The reason black guys have it harder IMHO is because, there is no other race that shames it's own for being intelligent like black people do. Even on this forum when you say black it's assumed you are saying thug, hood, pants down, rap music, etc. That's not fair but it is what it is.


My point never was that nothing ever matters. of course **** matters. my point is that at the end of the day, after all the *****ing, after all the complaining, I still want to have sex with hot women of all races. so I got to do what i have to do to be able to do that.


With that said, there is a difference between acknowledging and complaining. I"m acknowledging. I don't complain. Everyone has some advantages it's your fault if you don't realize them. That same guy above who was born with money and is 6'4 and good looking, wishes he was as smart as I am.




I also want to add this before i go.

If you are single and you are black and you life in the south, you are an idiot lol. it's just that simple. Girls that would not give me the time of day in Arkansas are chasing me down in LA.

 

[HyperAnalyze]

Amen.

The hustle is real out here guys.

f**k. mad respect for this post.

 

[backbreaker]

I Mean, you aren't going to want to hear this this is not very politically correct, but this is my experience, but if you are black and you want o slay white women on a constant basis, you have to become 2x the catch as your white counterparts.


I see a lot of black guys say stuff like "but but but my white friends can go up to these girls and they get play and i can't.. boo hoo"

if this is your true goal you can't become a catch. you have to be come a CATCH. for you to get to the point where women are saying "damn, i don't care if he is black i have the sudden urge to brush my teeth with his c0ck" getting in shape is not good enough you need abs. Having game is not good enough you have to be able to spit it like a cobra. you can't just wear nice clothes you need to have style. having inner game is not good enough you need to have a swagger about you.


once you get to that point.. no it really doesn't matter.

 

[Jaylan]

I dunno why people ever argue this.

Race matters in dating a lot of the time due to many factors. It could be social pressures, straight up physical attraction, stereotypical expectations or other things.

There have been university studies that have shown that a man of a different race of the woman hes pursuing needs to make X amount more money (on average) or be X amount more good looking in order to get to on an even playing field with men of that womans race. I think Colombia actually did a study like that.

But anyways, it is what it fvking is. To be honest I truly believe Id be slaying at least double the amount of women if I was merely a white version of myself. Im a decent looking dude, educated, working an honest job, ambitious, and I have long hair and a body that gets compliments from any chicks that see me in workout clothing or naked. Meanwhile Ive known white guys similar to myself or with a little less going for them, yet they do a good deal better than I with the ladies. And Im the outgoing charismatic one of the bunch.

I just accept it for what it is. White dudes tend to be what most girls will chase after or be open to...and Im not gonna sweat it to much if my race keeps a chick from dating me. I gotta focus on the girls who want me. Cus at the end of the day, its their loss and I know Im a good catch. I dont feel I need to be X times better than a white dude to land good women or plentiful women. I think to myself "I need to be X times better than all men, because I wanna be someone who isnt just an average shmuck."

If it gets me laid, cool. If it doesnt, fvk it.

 

[JoeMarron]

Gospel, would rep if I could. The black dude that isn't a walking stereotype is playing the game with completely different rules than the average man. The average black woman wants the stereotypical black man. White women who date black men want the stereotypical black man. Pretty much every woman who dates black men want the stereotypical black man. Being extraordinary is the only way to overcome this. Crying about it isn't going to solve anything (not gonna name any names but you guys know who I'm talking about :crackup: ).

I Mean, you aren't going to want to hear this this is not very politically correct, but this is my experience, but if you are black and you want o slay white women on a constant basis, you have to become 2x the catch as your white counterparts.

Some would call this being ashamed of your race but I beg to differ. If you're a nerdy black dude you most likely come from a middle class black family. You most likely live in the suburbs and attended schools with a white majority. You've basically spent your entire childhood around whites so of course you're going to be attracted to and want to date white women. There simply isn't enough black women around and the ones that are around don't like you because you aren't the stereotypical black man. Barely any of these dudes would be getting laid if they decided to stick with their own race.

 

[Jaylan]

PS - I must respond to the points made in that other thread. While many educated black women want an educated black man as their first choice for a mate, there are PLENTY of black women who pedestalize white men the same way a lot of asians and latina girls do. Ive met numerous black women like this.

 

[Jack89]

I agree somewhat some races have the advantages, you can be 2x better than next race and it's highly possible to get rejected. I have seen so many dorky afc white guys pull in chick without even trying no game whatsoever vs me and some other guys getting rejected in the clubs. I was even thinking of bringing a bleaching kit.

In the end it doesn't matter their h0es anyways, and you shouldn't care there's plenty of other girls way better looking who will give you the time of day. You can't deny the fact that white guys are mostly preferred but it shouldn't be brought to thought at all since it does no good whatsoever worrying about another guys race.

Btw backbreaking you been to Atlanta? I heard is severely worse down there and you gotta be some sort of nfl player or rapper to pull.

 

[backbreaker]

Some would call this being ashamed of your race but I beg to differ. If you're a nerdy black dude you most likely come from a middle class black family.

a little bit better than middle class.

You most likely live in the suburbs and attended schools with a white majority.

yep

You've basically spent your entire childhood around whites so of course you're going to be attracted to and want to date white women.

it's not even so much that i'm more attracted to white woman than black women I didn't date my first white chick until I was 17. and I had at least, 15 or so Girlfriends before Jennifer (The white girl). It's out of really necessity.

when i was dating all the hot black chicks I was an athlete. I was thugged out and I was popular. I was the stereotypical black dude. But I just don't do anything that puts me around attractive.. or really any lol, black women on a constant basis. My leasure activities include going to the gym and the horse track and I don't go to church. I'm either going to date white women or jack off lol, because I'm not running into them anywhere. t's just that simple.



And more than anything that's what gets me. I was in TAG/AP classes my entire life pretty much with all white people. My best friend, Taylor growing up was white. I'm extremely comfortable around white people why should i Not be. I grew up around them basically.

Then, we start jacking off and women start growing breasts and start wearing high heels and then all bets are off lol. Now the same dude who i'm playing spades with in the back of the chemistry class hates my guts because i have the nerve to try to hit on the same white girl he's hitting on. Then it's stick to your own race, when I never "stuck with my own race" my entire life lol. what kinda bull **** is that.

But anyways, it is what it fvking is. To be honest I truly believe Id be slaying at least double the amount of women if I was merely a white version of myself. Im a decent looking dude, educated, working an honest job, ambitious, and I have long hair and a body that gets compliments from any chicks that see me in workout clothing or naked. Meanwhile Ive known white guys similar to myself or with a little less going for them, yet they do a good deal better than I with the ladies. And Im the outgoing charismatic one of the bunch.

I just accept it for what it is. White dudes tend to be what most girls will chase after or be open to...and Im not gonna sweat it to much if my race keeps a chick from dating me. I gotta focus on the girls who want me. Cus at the end of the day, its their loss and I know Im a good catch. I dont feel I need to be X times better than a white dude to land good women or plentiful women. I think to myself "I need to be X times better than all men, because I wanna be someone who isnt just an average shmuck."

this is probably ly your best post ever I agree with all of this.


I mean my thing was.. I like classy sexy women. I could gripe, *****, approach women like I am attracted to all day long but to get the type of woman I like I had to become a guy that they wer attracted to. In that sense, it's not that any different than if i were white. I just had to work harder.

Btw backbreaking you been to Atlanta? I heard is severely worse down there and you gotta be some sort of nfl player or rapper to pull.

the last time i was in atlanta was on my 10th birthday to see the Atlanta braves play the new york mets. the braves won 5 to 2 on a jeff blasuer 3 run home run lol. that and six flags over Atlanta was my birthday present. haen't been back sense.

 

[( . )( . )]

But anyways, it is what it fvking is. To be honest I truly believe Id be slaying at least double the amount of women if I was merely a white version of myself.

Libtard men stuck in a state of perpetual victimhood who wallow in fem-centrism fail across all races with women. You guys are just losers to women and life in general no matter what race. In short leftism is simply just irrationality, fear in the female mind projected onto society. Think about it, if your mind has adopted this way of thinking then it's not that far a stretch to conclude women are inherently repulsed by men who mimic themselves. Think like a man, act like a man. I bet you gain lots more interest from women. Right thinkers get hotter chicks, it's just how it is.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...strong-likely-right-wing-political-views.html

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012...shows-conservatives-and-liberals-have-a-look/

How the hell is a woman supposed to get wet over a man who screams for more safeguards , more gubmint control over his life and more of other peoples money? Just ain't gonna happen. That's a bad male brain to have and she'll pick up on it.

No offence but you know it's true.

 

[HumbleNinja]

If black dudes choose to go after chicks who only want them because they're "black" the dudes aren't going to grow as a person. You might as well take it as an insult or the chick being a complete moron as those types are in love with the "blackness" they are brainwashed with by the media, music etc. feeling the need to not only be "accepted" but secretly "better" than the thug "black guy" they're dating for their own attention purposes.

Imagine a non-Italian chick going after an Italian guy and expecting the Italian guy to be "Italian" in that he has to speak Italian, have big Sunday dinners with family all the time, talk with some NY accent, act Jersey shore, and be "connected" or whatever chicks think all "Italians" are like. It's actually an insult and a chick like that should either get pump and dumped or not bothered with at all. A chick like that feels some sort of need to live vicariously through some "Italian life" and probably watched too many episodes of the Sopranos and Jersey Shore and feels whatever those "Real Italian" qualities she's been brainwashed with by T.V etc. "completes" her lost existance.

Same with dudes who run to Asian countries thinking all Asian women prefer "white guys" or Americans. It's the dude steryotyping the chicks for hopeful easy dates with a white guy and the Asian chicks sterotyping the White/American guys for having money, being providers etc.


The difficult part IMO is where black dudes who don't care to fit the sterotypical media/music promoted black thug gangsta can get chicks who normally don't date black dudes rather than date chicks who go out with a black guy simply because he fit some brainwashing mold she believes he has to fit in order for herself to feel more "real", "comfortable" and the "catch" in the relationship.

Then again maybe black dudes want white women as a sign of "success" to show off to their own race and thumb their noses at the man. YOU make YOURSELF a success for YOU. Not the chick. Period.

 

[backbreaker]

So the question really is, what do you do about all of this?


I know some black guys (like i'm not black or something lol) that you can just tell, they settled. They confirmed. Because in reality our problem isn't that we are black, we are black guys with white guys standards lol. That's our problem. Dammit I wan tto slay hot as sjust like every white guy on this forum does. We dare to want something more than what society tells us we are entitled to have. I don't mean that in a negative way. Like my mom used to always ask me "backbreaker baby why can't you date a nice black girl, look here i know a black girl here date her lol" and it's like, she'd be a pretty generic nice black chick but I mean, dammit i want hot women. My mom tried to hook me up one time with a chick who showed up at her house in a damn bandana with her hair not done with some flip flops on. she wsn't ugly but she wasn't "hot".

 

[( . )( . )]

That's our problem. Dammit I wan tto slay hot as sjust like every white guy on this forum does. We dare to want something more than what society tells us we are entitled to have. I don't mean that in a negative way.

Serious? You've had 5 straight decades of the media portraying black men as the cool and charming lady killers and white guys as the inept bumbling herbs 24/7. You don't really have a leg to stand on blaming society. Besides that, sh!tlibs have been doing absolute cartwheels telling us all you're more than entitled.

Have you ever thought perhaps deep down most white chicks just want babies who look like her and her lineage, and have more sexual attraction to their own kind? Or is that zany talk?

 

[HumbleNinja]

So the question really is, what do you do about all of this?


I know some black guys (like i'm not black or something lol) that you can just tell, they settled. They confirmed. Because in reality our problem isn't that we are black, we are black guys with white guys standards lol. That's our problem. Dammit I wan tto slay hot as sjust like every white guy on this forum does. We dare to want something more than what society tells us we are entitled to have. I don't mean that in a negative way. Like my mom used to always ask me "backbreaker baby why can't you date a nice black girl, look here i know a black girl here date her lol" and it's like, she'd be a pretty generic nice black chick but I mean, dammit i want hot women. My mom tried to hook me up one time with a chick who showed up at her house in a damn bandana with her hair not done with some flip flops on. she wsn't ugly but she wasn't "hot".

Good question. Stay true to yourself and strive to be the best person you can be is all you can do and meet chicks in as high a quality place as you can.

Or hope the media starts to portray every black dude on T.V. music etc. (as well as black athletes and celebrities in music etc.) as extremely smart, gifted, masculine, going places in life other than being portrayed as simply an athlete or rap star etc. so more and more non-black dating chicks will want those qualities and seek out black dudes.

Just hope they don't attempt to then portray black dudes as us "bumbling, dopey white dudes" who need a woman to do everything for them. It seems to be all the rage these days and I know several dudes who never heard of so suave or the manosphere etc. and see whats going on with that nonsense.

***Actually they are slowly inserting phaggotry into hip hop these days which is why I stopped listening to most mainstream rap these days. That and true story a LOT of rappers are closet h0mos. Believe it or not. Just hope they don't end up turning every black dude into being seen by everyone as a raging fruitcake in the near future. It's slowly being pushed in rap more and more..Unless in the future it turns chicks on to want to date black dudes because the media and closeted rap funboys decide phaggotry for blacks needs to be the new "rage" and they get brainwashed by that sh1t.

Most chicks these days remind me of the brainwashing they talked about years ago in Public Enemy's "She Watch Channel Zero". Only the brainwashing and sterotyping by the media being done these days is much worse.

 

[InnerHappiness]

Go into this herd mentality that white women are tough. That white men have all the luck. That Black men have little luck. BY GOLLY BLESS THOSE POOR INDIAN AND ASIAN SOULS.

What I see id that you are unattractive and trying to hit on a blonde bombshell. What the fvck do you think is going to happen? Miracles are miracles for a reason. I'm a minority and 90% of my dates are white women.

What does that tell you? You can bicker and whine all you like. Saying this sh!t is unfair. It's the exact same sh!t as an AFC chump asking why life isn't fair. Grow up. Grow a pair. Quit b!tching.

 

[JoeMarron]

Serious? You've had 5 straight decades of the media portraying black men as the cool and charming lady killers and white guys as the inept bumbling herbs 24/7. You don't really have a leg to stand on blaming society. Besides that, sh!tlibs have been doing absolute cartwheels telling us all you're more than entitled.

Have you ever thought perhaps deep down most white chicks just want babies who look like her and her lineage, and have more sexual attraction to their own kind? Or is that zany talk?

The media portrays the stereotypical black man as that. If you don't fit the stereotype you don't get the benefits. At the end of the day its all about value. A man with high enough value can be with virtually any woman he wants and she won't give a fvck about lineage. Women are attracted to any man who displays attractive traits. On the other hand I can respect wanting to start a family with your own race. In a perfect world I'd prefer to get with a black chick and create cute little black babies. However, I'm not going to pass up opportunities with other women. There simply aren't enough black women around that fit my standard. I'm not going to starve myself looking for a black chick when there are thousands of fvckable whites, hispanics, and other ethnicities of women around every corner.

 

[sylvester the cat]

What is this 'Poor Me' plight of the Africans thread BS?

Why are you macking on white women anyway? HAve you been so socially conditioned as to think your own kind is not worthy?

Plight of the africans indeed. go sell your self-pitying BS elsewhere.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Yes, race is a major issue and I used to bvtch about it a lot, but I stopped for two reasons. White men will never feel the struggles of any minority. It is just a waste of time and effort to even attempt explain to them your race related struggles. Plus, white people only tolerate positive thinking. Second, there is nothing you can do about it, but leave your area. Im a black male stuck in a racist area at the moment, and it is almost like a prison sentence.

Op is right about the clean black male. Im muscular, tall, and good looking, but I act like rg3 and all doors are shut in my face. My parents are both doctors, so Im not of peasant background. It's a catch 22, I am being punished for trying successful while these thugs are being awarded. Black men like this just need to move to liberal open minded areas. I go to a really conservative college and have to deal with so much ****. My personality is so negative because of this. My black professor is young, muscular, intelligent, and good looking, but he is pretty much borderline emo and puts himself down a lot. This college is making him hate himself when he could be killing it in a liberal open minded setting.

Op also forgot to mention that proper acting black women and other minorities arent an option. These girls exclusively like white men and will usually choose dorky looking ones.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Serious? You've had 5 straight decades of the media portraying black men as the cool and charming lady killers and white guys as the inept bumbling herbs 24/7. You don't really have a leg to stand on blaming society. Besides that, sh!tlibs have been doing absolute cartwheels telling us all you're more than entitled.

Have you ever thought perhaps deep down most white chicks just want babies who look like her and her lineage, and have more sexual attraction to their own kind? Or is that zany talk?

Lol no, society only likes blacks that act like zoo animals or are skilled with a ball in their hand. An intelligent black male will make an insecure white male feel threatened. Which in case are the majority of white men from my experience. Racial preferences are very much influenced by the media. Look at asian females for example. The americanized ones almost exclusively date white males.

 

[Jaylan]

If black dudes choose to go after chicks who only want them because they're "black" the dudes aren't going to grow as a person. You might as well take it as an insult or the chick being a complete moron as those types are in love with the "blackness" they are brainwashed with by the media, music etc. feeling the need to not only be "accepted" but secretly "better" than the thug "black guy" they're dating for their own attention purposes.

Imagine a non-Italian chick going after an Italian guy and expecting the Italian guy to be "Italian" in that he has to speak Italian, have big Sunday dinners with family all the time, talk with some NY accent, act Jersey shore, and be "connected" or whatever chicks think all "Italians" are like. It's actually an insult and a chick like that should either get pump and dumped or not bothered with at all. A chick like that feels some sort of need to live vicariously through some "Italian life" and probably watched too many episodes of the Sopranos and Jersey Shore and feels whatever those "Real Italian" qualities she's been brainwashed with by T.V etc. "completes" her lost existance.

Same with dudes who run to Asian countries thinking all Asian women prefer "white guys" or Americans. It's the dude steryotyping the chicks for hopeful easy dates with a white guy and the Asian chicks sterotyping the White/American guys for having money, being providers etc.


The difficult part IMO is where black dudes who don't care to fit the sterotypical media/music promoted black thug gangsta can get chicks who normally don't date black dudes rather than date chicks who go out with a black guy simply because he fit some brainwashing mold she believes he has to fit in order for herself to feel more "real", "comfortable" and the "catch" in the relationship.

Then again maybe black dudes want white women as a sign of "success" to :wave: off to their own race and thumb their noses at the man. YOU make YOURSELF a success for YOU. Not the chick. Period.

Good post. I've always stayed away from women looking for a stereotypical brother or women with racial fetishes. I want a chick to be into me cause I'm an attractive dude, not because I'm an attractive black dude.

I've been the first black guy several women have dated, so I can say this....there are plenty of girls who are open to dating black dudes so long as they aren't stereotypical wannabe thug asshats. Likewise there are women of other races who are into the thug life themselves. I date the former and avoid the latter.

And yes some black dudes see white girls as a status symbol, but thats no different from how many races treat potential white partners. Though I think asian women are the worst with this because of how many of them publicly put down asian men.

Ps - I'm like backbreaker in that my interests and living situations have always made it that id have to date interracially if I expected to have a dating life.

 

[Mike32ct]

there is a ocean full of ***** for avg ass white guys lol. If you are a nerd, there are white girls that like nerds. IF you are a jock there are white girls that like jocks. If you are a motocycle guy there are white girls that like motocycles.

You've been saying for a while that being average and white doesn't cut it anymore. Now you are saying that there is an ocean of puzzy for average white guys. I'm confused now.