The ONLY Way To Become Successful With Women!

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On WSA, and the internet as a whole, there is an ocean of information on the subjects of women and dating. In fact, there is so much information that it would take you several lifetimes to read it all. Curiously enough, humans procreated just fine before the net even existed, but that doesn't stop what is now a fairly large group of people (who aren't allowed to advertise on WSA by the way) from making big money by subtly convincing unsuspecting newbies that there is something inherently wrong with them, and that only by paying for high-priced seminars, books and CDs will they be able to "fix" themselves and finally get better with women.

While there are some quality offerings out there, most do more harm than good. Regardless, the point must be stressed that there is nothing inherently wrong with guys who don't get women, except for the fact that they've convinced themselves that there is. If they could trade attitudes (just attitudes, not knowledge, skills, techniques, etc) with someone who's successful with women for just one day, they would truly understand the deep truth of the preceding statement.

Now, It is certainly true that by educating themselves and taking masive action to improve their lives, guys who at one point in their lives perhaps had trouble even finding a date for the prom, can have women clawing eachother over them. However, we must understand that their "seduction skills" isn't the area where this massive action must be taken.

If you wish to become more successful with women, get a gym mebership, some stylish clothing, perhaps a better job or night classes, and a cool hobby or two. These are the things that will make a real difference in the quality of your life, your enjoyment of it, and yes, your level of success with women as well. But always remember that there is one way and one way only to truly get better with women - by going out there and talking to them.

You don't get better by sitting here and reading articles anymore than you do by watching porn. If you want things to change, take the preceding advice and sign up for a gym, a martial arts class or a sports team. Not to pick up women, but to add enjoyment to your life, meet new friends and become more social. On top of all that, because you'll be out there and not in here, you'll definitely meet a lot more women too!

However, stay conscious of the fact that they're not just going to fall into your lap, and that you do have to actually find the courage and approach them. This is the last point i must make: articles, books, CDs and seminars cannot and will not give you courage - you and only you can do that for yourself! If you're just getting started, this may not be easy, but nothing worthwhile ever is. Make the choice: find the courage and become everything you've ever wanted to be, or admit here and now that you don't have what it takes and quit.

But you're not going to quit! Why? Because i know you. I know you because years ago, i was you. I faced the same issues, the same challenges, the same fears, lifted myself far up above them, overcame them all and am now on the other side. I knew they could be overcome, so i did. So will you. I'm not going to evoke your pity by telling you how miserable i once was, nor boast about the life that i'm now blessed with, but believe me when i say that if you saw me then, you'd know that if i did it, literally anyone can. You can. You know what to do now.

DO IT.
 
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This is a good way of looking at it. That's why I've always hated most of the DJ Bible and Pook and the administrator of this site Allen--they just love to talk theory. The only threads I remember that were enjoyable and fullfilling to read were the approach journals by Pugsley_f5 and Jwhite17.

Do you agree that they should get rid of 90% of the DJ bible?
 

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you master women, once you've mastered yourself. i have found that once i stopped thinking about women and truly started focusing on my life. thats when the greatest woman fell right into my lap. it was that simple. i didn't have to do a dam thing. maybe thats why it worked. because i didn't follow any forum or bible information. i just was to busy enjoying my life and that girl seen that and wanted to be apart of it.
 

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Passion said:
Do you agree that they should get rid of 90% of the DJ bible?
Yea, but the 10% they should leave should be made up of Pook and Fingers. :) I find that they (esp Pook) have managed to really capture the "right" spirit. Notice how Pook doesn't even write about techniques, just states of mind.
 

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I personally think the DJ Bible is overrated. For the people in this forum who are trying to pick up women, the last thing they need to do is read a bunch of theoretical articles to confuse them more. That's the whole problem I have with it - completely overanalyzing women. This isn't aerospace engineering.

The DJ bible should go something like this:

1.) Get to know girl you're interested in

2.) Ask her out

3.) Repeat if rejected

It's that easy. Not rocket science.
 

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krass,

there are a lot of guys on this board too who talk about "self improvement" as the way to get women.

but the thing is - there are lots of "loser jerkoffs" who get women too... and they don't have vibrant lives.

INASMUCH AS SUCCESS WITH WOMEN *C*A*N* BE INDEPENDENT OF PERSONAL ACTUALIZATION, don't you think it is valid to figure out success with women as its own discipline?

delta
 

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ok, I hit the gym 5 days a week (5%bodyfat) work at A&F so I have "nice clothes", drive a good car, go to school, have great buddies, and cool hobbies

....and I havent been laid in like 2 months, havent been to a party in like 3 months and havent gotten a new number since like February

you cant just focus on your life and think that a woman will just "fall in your lap"

you need to get laid in order to focus on other things, pvssy makes everyone happy, but just focusing on your life isnt enough

Ive been focusing on my life real hard the last few months and I havent felt more misrable in my life, not having any type of girls will do that to you

Im totally lost and hate it
 

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hahaha,

sex in the city on tv right now... episode where girls are complaining about pressure to be supermodel beautiful and having to live up to such standards.

but now i realize men have the same pressure!

to be muscular, well dressed, interesting, successful, self actualized, etc...

it's the same thing.

i'm not saying we shouldn't strive to be all that and more... but we should undertake the endeavor with the understanding that, you know what, we're human and we're not perfect. and as every woman is not heidi klum, every man will not be brad pitt.

delta
 

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definitely...

i feel like i need pvssy to move on too... but alas alas, i fear that life doesn't work that way!

and this is why i have argued in previous posts that there should be affordable, legalized prostitution for all....

delta
 

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escobar04 said:
ok, I hit the gym 5 days a week (5%bodyfat) work at A&F so I have "nice clothes", drive a good car, go to school, have great buddies, and cool hobbies

....and I havent been laid in like 2 months, havent been to a party in like 3 months and havent gotten a new number since like February

you cant just focus on your life and think that a woman will just "fall in your lap"

you need to get laid in order to focus on other things, pvssy makes everyone happy, but just focusing on your life isnt enough

Ive been focusing on my life real hard the last few months and I havent felt more misrable in my life, not having any type of girls will do that to you

Im totally lost and hate it
Oh shut the fck up. You haven't had pvssy in two months and you're "lost"? Here's a tip: working on your bodyfat% and getting a job at Polocrombie&Fitch for discounts on generic prepwear for a few months and deriving happiness from the car you drive is not "working on yourself".
 

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what is, scrum?

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Ok can anybody answer this question... If you're simply "happy with yourself" and don't need "someone else" to feel happy, then why the hell do I feel better when I have a hot girl? It is inevitable that I have feelings for her, which then creates "love", which then creates neediness on my part. And this usually ends in them dumping me, which then gives me about a year of depression.
 

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people who tell you that you don't need others are plain wrong and don't quite understand that which they preach.

human beings are both SOCIAL creatures and SEXUAL creatures. we are NOT MEANT TO BE ALONE.

on the other hand, LOVE need not precede NEEDINESS. everyone needs love... neediness however is not the same thing as need.

i think the key distinction is the knowledge that you don't need HER. you need someone but not any particular someone. to LATCH ON to a girl is bad.

delta
 
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well. i guess you're screwed then.

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Scrumtulescence said:
Oh shut the fck up. You haven't had pvssy in two months and you're "lost"? Here's a tip: working on your bodyfat% and getting a job at Polocrombie&Fitch for discounts on generic prepwear for a few months and deriving happiness from the car you drive is not "working on yourself".
what is then?

but you're really not helping, you just told me to stfu, thats all

advice next time man!
 

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Re:

If you wish to become more successful with women, get a gym mebership, some stylish clothing, perhaps a better job or night classes, and a cool hobby or two. These are the things that will make a real difference in the quality of your life, your enjoyment of it, and yes, your level of success with women as well. But always remember that there is one way and one way only to truly get better with women - by going out there and talking to them.


I love how your solution to every mans issue with women is to go to the gym, get a nice haircut and buy better clothing and a better paying job. Why dont you tell men to just buy the women in bulk on retail while you're at it?
And just going out and talking to them isnt much of a solution for them if they dont know what to say, how to say
it, and how to keep things fun and interesting. "Hi, how are you? Like my nice clothes, nice body and nice job?"


I know plenty of guys PLENTY who look good, have perfect bodies, drive the best cars etc and absolutely suck with women! They have no inner game! They have no conversation skills, they have huge egos which is a result of poor self esteem so they buy better clothing, tan and buy shiny rims for their nice car and it does nothing but attract women in the wrong way. I have a beautiful girl/friend who dumps every guy she goes out with (pilots, lawyers, doctors etc) because she says they have no class, and no game. They all just talk about themselves, their money, job etc. WACK!

Information helps people. If a guy is insecure, clingy and socially inept do you think his nice body and designer clothes are going to help him when he's out on his date? I've actually coached a few men and they told me how much I've helped them. To me the extra stuff is like icing on the cake. Telling people to not read books, or listen to anyones dating advice or disregard all of the information but telling them to upgrade themselves with a better job and a better body is like telling a drug abuser to quit doing drugs but take up gambling. I've been on this earth 40 years and have been out with close to 300 women and I can see things that work and dont and just having nice material and physical attributes is good but its only 1/3 of the pie! 1/3rd!!
 

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RE: following up

Let me tell you a quick story as a follow up and I'm not ashamed to tell it now.

Years ago I was a cleanup guy at a big office building. Yes I was the guy who came in at night, emptied the trash, vacuumed I needed the extra money as I was living paycheck to paycheck.. There a few hot girls at the place one in particular a HOT women a few years older than me who's boyfriend drove a nice convertible Mercedes and had his own company. I used to stop at her desk and make small talk all the time and later that evening I would take the trash to the dumpster and see her driving off with him and she'd wave and he'd look at me like I was the crap on the bottom of his shoe.
After a few weeks of casual conversation with her, learning more about her (by asking interesting questions) and hearing the ups and downs of her relationship she took a fondness towards me and everytime I'd walk down towards her desk I'd see this bright smile come across her face.
One Friday night out of the blue she invited me over to her apartment for a glass of wine because her man was out of the country. I went to her place (dressed very nice of course) and we sat on her couch, listening to music, talking and drinking merlot. Chatting, playful banter, teasing and laughing eventually led to those silent moments where our face was close and eyes met and soon we were making out madly. I ended up turning her down for sex that night and that Monday when I saw her at work I played it cool and she pinches my ass and asked if I would come over again this week.

To make a long story short she was willing to leave her rich good looking mega tan mercedes driving boyfriend for a brother like me who simply gave her what her boyfriend. Her man bought her everything, paid her apartment rent, bought her gifts, nice **** all the time but they lacked TRUE friendship, a deep connection, true passion and even trust. Some things you cant buy.

Oh and that wasnt the only woman at that building who I had established a connection with.
 

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Delta said:
but the thing is - there are lots of "loser jerkoffs" who get women too... and they don't have vibrant lives.
It depends on how you would define a "loser jerkoff." If you're talking about the guys who don't even have jobs, yet get laid left and right, you have to look at what they do have to offer. A lot of these guys work out all the time, and get laid based on looks alone. Put it this way: if you see a chick you think is hot, would her not having a job stop you from wanting to have sex with her? Precisely. Next, guys who are jerks also have personality, character. No, i don't mean that they have a "good, healthy personality," but i do mean that they have flavor. They have strong beliefs, opinions and courage. They might not be all that bright, but they exhibit manly qualities that women find very attractive, and this helps offset the negatives. Also, you have to look at the women that they get. They're not gonna get high-quality beautiful women, like models, lawyers, actresses, etc, not unless they've actually got something going for themselves. The women they are gonna get are often beautiful but ultimately low-character, just like the guys in question. These chicks have low self-esteem and don't mind being treated like crap because its congruent with their image of themselves. The question you have to ask is: would you even want these women? For one night, maybe, but to date? The moral is: yes, "loser jerkoffs" do get laid, but "loser geeks" don't.
 
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