The Next 15 weeks of your Life!

[Metaphysical]

yes, definately. im gonna get my website set up properly and by the third weeks stuff ill be able to put it out better.

how are you guys doing though? hows your results been so far after a week and a bit? are you on the path yet? are you makin those changes?

 

[Stud]

You have to do 20 minutes of activity in order for it to have a significant cardiovascular benefit. I think that's what he may have meant.

 

[Lockheed]

is it too late to enter guys?

 

[Metaphysical]

your fat burning starts after 20 minutes. the first 20 minutes you're burning the sugars that are in your blood stream. after that your body starts to fuel off the fat you have on your body. so if you jog for 1 hr, only 40 minutes you will be burning the fat, the first 20 mins you'll simply burn whatever sugars you got in your blood from your lunch or whatever

so if u actually want to lose weight and get rid of the fat faster, you got to really jog for long periods of time

and no its not too late to start for anyone

 

[wolf116]

your fat burning starts after 20 minutes. the first 20 minutes you're burning the sugars that are in your blood stream. after that your body starts to fuel off the fat you have on your body. so if you jog for 1 hr, only 40 minutes you will be burning the fat, the first 20 mins you'll simply burn whatever sugars you got in your blood from your lunch or whatever

so if u actually want to lose weight and get rid of the fat faster, you got to really jog for long periods of time

and no its not too late to start for anyone

Please stop it.
Do 20mins of HIIT every day and see what happens.
How do you know how much "sugar" is in my blood?

 

[Metaphysical]

Please stop it.
Do 20mins of HIIT every day and see what happens.
How do you know how much "sugar" is in my blood?

your blood keeps sugars in it to fuel you in the short term. if you don't have any, you die. it takes about 20 minutes of intensive cardio before your body switches to fat burning mechanisms.

 

[wolf116]

your blood keeps sugars in it to fuel you in the short term. if you don't have any, you die. it takes about 20 minutes of intensive cardio before your body switches to fat burning mechanisms.

This just keeps getting better.

Do some research before you spread this misinformation.
20 mins of cardio is great for lowering body fat.
It doesn't matter how long you run for, if you have carbs in your stomach, your body won't be burning body-fat.
Jogging for an hour like you're suggesting is going to be catabolic.

 

[Quiksilver]

hey wolf, while you are correct in what you're saying, I think you have to put this into perspective. For Sedentary Joe just getting into fitness/lifting, step one is to increase work capacity and general conditioning/gpp. Jogging for an hour could be labelled catabolic, but Sedentary Joe doesn't have the muscle mass to catabolize.

I agree that somebody who has added 40+lbs of muscle should be selective with their cardio, since their physiology will be only too happy to shed most of it.

For the first few months, IMO someone should focus entirely on building work capacity and doing whatever cardio/strength training they could get their hands on without overtraining.

After 3 months of doing whatever, then someone might be ready for the "fasted/hiit/muscle sparing" route.
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I was squatting 320 for reps doing entirely too much cardio, and that was because I'd built my work capacity/conditioning so much, which isn't necessarily a bad thing to get out of the way in the first few months.
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It's hard to go wrong with your suggestions though.

 

[Metaphysical]

That's exactly what I'm saying. You should have one single goal and work towards it and then finally switch and go pursue something else. If your goal is to put on muscle, don't try running cardio at the same time.

The only exception comes when you are trying to lose weight. I believe you should be doing LOTS of cardio but also at least once or twice a week, lifting weights to keep your current muscle mass from being burnt out.

 

[Zodiac]

I have gotten into the habit of now doing the following around an eighth of a mile track:

* Walk 4
* Run 2
* Walk 4
* Run 2
* Walk 4
* Run 2
* Walk 4

That combined is roughly almost 3 miles. I do that at least 3 times a week when I'm not in classes.

 

[Metaphysical]

good job bro. u were 242 two weeks ago. how much are you at now? you should be 2-3 lbs less at least. gotta keep the pace ma man, we're over 10% done already.

 

[Zodiac]

good job bro. u were 242 two weeks ago. how much are you at now? you should be 2-3 lbs less at least. gotta keep the pace ma man, we're over 10% done already.

I'm doing real good now. I am roughly 237 now.

 

[Metaphysical]

5 lbs off in 2 weeks. damn dude you're on the pace. you got 15 lbs left to go bro.

 

[Zodiac]

5 lbs off in 2 weeks. damn dude you're on the pace. you got 15 lbs left to go bro.

I hope to lose as much as possible in this amount of time in a healthy manor. I will keep the pace if not step it up with some weight lifting as well.

 

[I-tallionStallion]

I will keep the pace if not step it up with some weight lifting as well.

You should be weightlifting. It's a VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL for losing fat. You reshape your body. Do both!

 

[jb89]

is it too late to sig up?

I start on Monday.

Ill post my body space in a minute

 

[Zodiac]

You should be weightlifting. It's a VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL for losing fat. You reshape your body. Do both!

I have to start slowly on my weight lifting due to a prior injury where I had to get my shoulder blade surgically re-aligned. Football sucks.

 

[Metaphysical]

is it too late to sig up?

I start on Monday.

Ill post my body space in a minute

start. what are you waiting for? life doesnt wait for you. =)

 

[wolf116]

hey wolf, while you are correct in what you're saying, I think you have to put this into perspective. For Sedentary Joe just getting into fitness/lifting, step one is to increase work capacity and general conditioning/gpp. Jogging for an hour could be labelled catabolic, but Sedentary Joe doesn't have the muscle mass to catabolize.

I agree that somebody who has added 40+lbs of muscle should be selective with their cardio, since their physiology will be only too happy to shed most of it.

For the first few months, IMO someone should focus entirely on building work capacity and doing whatever cardio/strength training they could get their hands on without overtraining.

After 3 months of doing whatever, then someone might be ready for the "fasted/hiit/muscle sparing" route.
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I was squatting 320 for reps doing entirely too much cardio, and that was because I'd built my work capacity/conditioning so much, which isn't necessarily a bad thing to get out of the way in the first few months.
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It's hard to go wrong with your suggestions though.

I just don't think it's a good idea to have newbies starting off with bad training principles when we have an excellent program under in the vault i.e. "where to start." We have a whole bunch of guys thinking this is going to be some quick fix. This guy isn't going to be around to help once his site fails, and everyone following his program will be lost and confused.

The fastest way to build work capacity for a strength training program is strength training.

I'm just sad to see EFFORT's program abandoned. When he helps modivated guys just because he wants to help, not because he's trying to attract people to he business.

 

[Metaphysical]

www.change-yourself.com/week3.mp3

The third week is up and running. I got 6lbs heavier so far. Neo got 11lbs and Mcguyver (sp?) got 13lbs heavier.

I'm pretty stocked some of you guys made it so far, many guys quit by now.

Anyway, i'm gonna keep this short and sweet, I gotta hit the sack. Enjoy the podcast.

Ended with a song that's been stuck in my head.. been playin this Beyonce song for hours all day long