The Key Logger: A Forbidden Glimpse into the True Nature of Women

[sylvester the cat]

For some reason I seem to attract girls with bfriends. Maybe it's because they don't see me as a full time option. More as a bit of fun:

There was this hot Sicilian who I met whilst she was holidaying in London. She had a fulltime bfriend back in Sicily.

There was the Greek Cypriot girl at Uni who had a full time bfriend back in Cyprus. I will always associate strawberry flavoured condoms with her.

Then there was the Half Polish, Half Sri Lankan 17 year old who I later found out had a full time bfriend.

Then there was the Slovak girl who I'd previously dated but nothing came of it until she had a bfriend. I ended up shacking up with her actually and ironically i was CONVINCED she was doing the dirty and cheating on me but i could never find any evidence to stick.

Most recently was my 23 year old colleague. Angel-like, in whose mouth butter supposedly wouldn't melt. Although nothing physical happened between us (due to latent afcness) the emails and flirting she engaged with me whilst with a full time bfriend made me see this angels true colours.

And those are the ones that admitted it.

I'd suddenly realizing why it is I don't trust people in general.

 

[Vidrio]

You can download it if you have an Android through the Kindle app.

 

[Demonicale]

When i advertised my free book i was told it wasn't allowed.

 

[Jaylan]

People lie....nothing new here. Men and women both do selfish crap when it comes to romance.

*kanye shrug*

Hah. I cant believe the positive comments this piece of crap is getting. The only thing this book tells me is that women spin plates just like men do. This is not surprising in the slightest, and something anyone that has been on this site for more than 30 minutes should know.

Like a previous commenter said, this author is an AFC. Not only that, he is also naive, insecure, and a complete hypocrite. Naive because he expects women to magically remain faithful to him within days of meeting them, when clearly this will never happen given the amount of options women always have. Insecure because he actually lets this bother him. Exceedingly hypocritical because he is doing the exact same things all the women are doing.

Just spin plates, see multiple women at once, and dont think about settling down with anyone until she has proven herself worthy by sticking around for a while. Meanwhile, you can 'cheat' on her as well. This is what this site has always advocated.

This book is trash. Excess paranoia from a deranged fool.

This.

 

[betheman]

People lie....nothing new here. Men and women both do selfish crap when it comes to romance.

*kanye shrug*
This.

the difference being that women, the media, society, project women as being whiter than the purest driven snow, any mentipon of otherwise is met with hostility. men are portrayed as dogs, fools, imbeciles and clowns even, some of which is true.
this thread provides insight not paranoia

 

[GS750]

Aside from the book (I haven't read it), I have a very strong opinion on this subject.

Lots of guys around here maintain that it's "afc" to look through a woman's phone & computer. I believe it's perfectly acceptable to do so.

Women today are lost in a world of close to zero accountability, and therefore have lost their moral compass. A man could go on for years suspecting that she might be carrying inappropriate conversations and the only things that keep him from verifying are fear... Fear of losing her and fearing being labeled an "afc".

I'm currently seeing a woman, and so far she has given me no reason whatsoever to look through her phone or computer, and therefore I feel no need to do so. If and when she does, I will protect my KINGDOM by verifying if my suspicions are correct or are a false alarm.

Guys, understand this: If you suspect or have a feeling that something is wrong in your relationship, IT IS. It is a false belief that men don't have intuition. In fact, they do, but they don't act upon it until it's too late. They rationalize it and tell themselves they must be mistaken.

Every one of us has suspected something was wrong in a relationship, and held on forever as we rationalized that we were probably imagining things. Then, once critical mass was reached, we became devastated and found out our gut feeling, which we suppressed, was correct.

Take care of your kingdom. Trust, but verify!

I don't disagree with what you are saying. But it was the shortness of these relationships that kind of struck me. He'd be seeing a girl for about 3-5 days and be demanding access to all of her things. That's a bit insecure in my opinion. If you've been seeing someone for a while then it may be more acceptable to snoop...because you know she's probably doing it too.

 

[Atom Smasher]

When i advertised my free book i was told it wasn't allowed.

The OP is just telling us about a book he found that some other guy wrote.

Funny, I too though he was claiming to write it until I saw the follow-up posts.

 

[sylvester the cat]

the difference being that women, the media, society, project women as being whiter than the purest driven snow, any mentipon of otherwise is met with hostility. men are portrayed as dogs, fools, imbeciles and clowns even, some of which is true.
this thread provides insight not paranoia

are you sure about that? clearly you haven't seen Killer Joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8xIliY_XRM

what about the term Femme Fatale? have you heard about that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femme_fatale

 

[betheman]

are you sure about that? clearly you haven't seen Killer Joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8xIliY_XRM

what about the term Femme Fatale? have you heard about that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femme_fatale

so what? they come out the victims, objects of pity, are you a woman?

 

[sylvester the cat]

so what? they come out the victims, objects of pity, are you a woman?

why is anyone who questions anyone around here always accused of being a woman?

if you can't handle objections stay the fvck off of discussion forums and keep your musings to yourself.

 

[PlayHer Man]

I read it. Honestly stuff like this doesn't surprise me at all, women are opportunists and they will lead people on, straight up lie, tell half truths, and they will rationalize it completely, and be very comfortable with it.

What else would you expect in this society.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to noobolgy again."

Simply put.. this is all men need to know.

When it comes to sexual relationships with men... women are:

-Opportunistic
-Shallow
-Self-centered
-Exploitative
-Amoral (not to be confused with immoral)
-Calculating
-Dishonest
-Not loyal once the man ceases to be a resource for gain

The most important thing to remember is women are not honest. Always keep this in mind when you deal with them. This applies to 100% of them regardless of culture, age, looks, occupation, ethnicity, etc. In sexual relationships 100% of women are borderline compulsive liars. No exceptions.

The reason this is not common knowledge is because its simply too extreme of a claim. Most would dismiss it as "bitter misogyny". And what would women have to gain by allowing such information to be common knowledge? Nothing. They would be screwed.

This is why most women verbally claim to HATE dishonesty in men. By attacking dishonesty and disloyality.. they are free to engage in it themselves unnoticed. :yes:

Its not about hating women or abusing women. Its about knowing what you are dealing with. Most men don't because such knowledge would give them too much power. If you look at history.. men had total power over women until women learned to lie. Via seduction and manipulation they gradually eroded male supremacy. And here we are today.

 

[In2theGame]

-Dishonest

The most important thing to remember is women are not honest. .

This is the most accurate truth.
When i think back to all the girls ive dealt with and that is a lot! they all had different personalities, Some quiet, some wild, some in between and so on. One thing they ALLLLLLLLLLLL had in common? And this included my serious LTR's. they all lied. we aren't talking about little lies here and there. When it came to cheating, seeing another guy secretly while telling you they are not, Saying they didnt have BF's or Husbands, lying about hidden texts, emails, Facebook comments.. ALLL lies. Woman actually become like a demon that can lie so badly it will make your head spin. I remember one of my best friends that was so hurt by his Ex betraying him and lying to him that he pulled a gun out on her, luckily nothing happened but sometimes i think how woman can push a man to the edge and hurt him deeply with huge lies. In Relationships is when they lied the most. I have seen on more than a couple of occasions, Woman crying their eyes out to protect a LIE so they themselves dont look like the bad one.

 

[betheman]

why is anyone who questions anyone around here always accused of being a woman?

if you can't handle objections stay the fvck off of discussion forums and keep your musings to yourself.

I can handle objective objections, you do come over all feminine sort of like. ive noted your direction to stay off 'forums' and logged it with other ...'sh1t'

 

[Driggs]

I tend to agree with PHM. I don't need to read this book but it might be a wake up call for people who think women are motivated by anything other than pure Darwinian selfishness. The degree to which this is true still boggles my mind-- I keep being amazed by new and even more shocking examples of their dishonesty

 

[ArcBound]

Aside from the book (I haven't read it), I have a very strong opinion on this subject.

Lots of guys around here maintain that it's "afc" to look through a woman's phone & computer. I believe it's perfectly acceptable to do so.

Women today are lost in a world of close to zero accountability, and therefore have lost their moral compass. A man could go on for years suspecting that she might be carrying inappropriate conversations and the only things that keep him from verifying are fear... Fear of losing her and fearing being labeled an "afc".

I'm currently seeing a woman, and so far she has given me no reason whatsoever to look through her phone or computer, and therefore I feel no need to do so. If and when she does, I will protect my KINGDOM by verifying if my suspicions are correct or are a false alarm.

Guys, understand this: If you suspect or have a feeling that something is wrong in your relationship, IT IS. It is a false belief that men don't have intuition. In fact, they do, but they don't act upon it until it's too late. They rationalize it and tell themselves they must be mistaken.

Every one of us has suspected something was wrong in a relationship, and held on forever as we rationalized that we were probably imagining things. Then, once critical mass was reached, we became devastated and found out our gut feeling, which we suppressed, was correct.

Take care of your kingdom. Trust, but verify!

Hey Atom check this out:

Consider the case of a European psychiatrist who counseled many couples referred to him in which one of the spouses experienced "morbid jealousy." Most cases were husbands who had delusions that their wives were sexually unfaithful, and these delusions destroyed the fabric of trust required for harmonious marriage. Because he believed that extreme jealousy was a psychiatric illness that could not be cured, his most common recommendation was that the couples separate or divorce. Many couples followed his recommendations. Because he was keenly interested in the subsequent fate of his patients, he routinely contacted them after a number of months had passed. To his astonishment, he discovered that many of the wives of his patients had subsequently become sexually involved with the very men about whom their husbands had been jealous! Some of these women actually married the men who were the objects of their husbands' suspicions. In many cases, the husbands must have been sensing signs of infidelity. But because the wives proclaimed innocence and declared that their husbands' jealousy was irrational, the husbands ended up believing that the problem was in their heads.

Take from here http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/b/buss-passion.html

A lot of new age people say jealousy is stupid and useless in this age. And uncontrolled jealousy is. But jealousy, more than anything else, is merely a signal that SOMETHING IS WRONG. You can't quite see it, you don't have evidence of it, but something, that pure INSTINCT is telling you something is very wrong. I find my instinct whether jealousy or otherwise is usually correct. Our instinct, this gut feeling you talk about needs to be listened to, not squashed.

 

[mikey2012]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to noobolgy again."

Simply put.. this is all men need to know.

When it comes to sexual relationships with men... women are:

-Opportunistic
-Shallow
-Self-centered
-Exploitative
-Amoral (not to be confused with immoral)
-Calculating
-Dishonest
-Not loyal once the man ceases to be a resource for gain

The most important thing to remember is women are not honest. Always keep this in mind when you deal with them. This applies to 100% of them regardless of culture, age, looks, occupation, ethnicity, etc. In sexual relationships 100% of women are borderline compulsive liars. No exceptions.

The reason this is not common knowledge is because its simply too extreme of a claim. Most would dismiss it as "bitter misogyny". And what would women have to gain by allowing such information to be common knowledge? Nothing. They would be screwed.

This is why most women verbally claim to HATE dishonesty in men. By attacking dishonesty and disloyality.. they are free to engage in it themselves unnoticed. :yes:

Its not about hating women or abusing women. Its about knowing what you are dealing with. Most men don't because such knowledge would give them too much power. If you look at history.. men had total power over women until women learned to lie. Via seduction and manipulation they gradually eroded male supremacy. And here we are today.

Nothing new here. By principle I don't snoop. Women can't be trusted. Period.

 

[Desdinova]

When i advertised my free book i was told it wasn't allowed.

Post a link in your signature

Guys, understand this: If you suspect or have a feeling that something is wrong in your relationship, IT IS.

Agreed 100%. When I suspected my (ex)wife was doing something, I went into her email and looked. She was screwing around with her best friend's husband. From what I could tell, it was going on for about two weeks. If I had ignored my gut and believed her when she said she wasn't doing anything wrong, I could have gone for months not knowing she was screwing around. Instead, I found out very quickly and started doing what I needed to do to end the marriage.

I've learned that the biggest sign that a woman is interested in a new man is she makes changes in her life. If she suddenly has new hobbies or is listening to a different genre of music, something's up. Remember, humans generally don't like going outside their comfort zone. If she's going outside hers, be suspicious.

 

[JoeMarron]

I read this last night, very quick read.

• The guy was a total AFC, way too needy.
• He confronted way too much instead of nexting.
• There is absolute truth in his message about what women "do".
• His advice on how to handle it is terrible (he basically says accept it and that he shouldn't judge them but just blindly trust them and have a relationship).
• He should have realized the only way to successfully navigate such waters is to mostly fvk and chuck indiscriminately.

In the end, the message I get from him is really just reconstituted fem-garbage. "This is how women are and you should just accept it. I threw away good relationships when I should have just accepted that the women will lie to me".

I am not $hitting you, this is essentially what he says at the end. It is amazing what men will tolerate just for a chance at regular pu$$y and "companionship".

I actually kinda agree with him. He did throw away good relationships by having unrealistic expectations and flipping out when they weren't met. I'd lie to a chick too if within 3 days of the relationship she's asking me to open all my personal accounts. He could've been fvcking all 10 of those chicks atm if he wasn't a drama queen. As far as "this is how women are and you should just accept it" is concerned, I agree with the message but not his method of dealing with it. We can't change the nature of women. Sure we can restrict it and control it but we can't get rid of it. In a relationship I want a woman who chooses to be with me and only me because she wants to, not because I told her to. If she can't do that then she's not worthy of my faithfulness but I'm not gonna just throw away someone who I'm attracted to and get along with. Like I said in my post concerning this book men only have three options; spin plates always (doesn't mean no close relationships but they won't be monogamous), choose a woman most likely to uphold monogamy (virgin with traditional values), or dumpster dive. If a man can't do that then he should be prepared to have the women in his life cheat on him.

 

[Desdinova]

I tried reading it and had to stop. The guy is most certainly an AFC, expecting too much from women in the beginning of the relationship. The biggest and best advice he could use is: To ward off other men, you must be more interesting than them.

 

[JoeMarron]

I understand where you are coming from here and I agree with you, right up until you say "relationship".


Why should any man accept women as lying for a relationship?

Why not just walk away and fvk them without having to sacrifice fvking other women at the same time?

My problem with the writer and his conclusions are that he is basically saying, "let women get away with what they are doing and be willing to pay the price just so you can have a relationship with them".

I call b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t. If women are doing this sort of thing, fvking other men or entertaining other men, they simply are not relationship material and are only worth fvking.

Now of course, the challenge is in knowing whether they are doing these things or not.

I don't see where we disagree here. I agree that the author is silly for just blindly trusting women that he's in a relationship with. Any man that stays with and remains faithful to a woman who he suspects is entertaining the company of other men isn't worthy of being called a man. Now as far as having open relationships and fvck buddies with these type of women I wouldn't mind the lying. Society has ingrained in women that no man wants a slut. Its practically in their nature to deny and lie about anything that paints them as a slut. As long as she's pleasing me she can lie about her slutty behavior all she wants. I'll just laugh at her silliness and carry on with my life.