The Importance of Spinning Plates

[PantyWhisperer]

They're big enough - according to her.

 

[Poon King]

The bible says the truth will set us FREE, but what if it's better NOT being free? I'm sorry, but for all of the plates I've spun, none of that shyt means anything. Not a damn thing. I would have MUCH rather been in a serious LTR all of this time with a chick, while being Blue Pill at the same time thinking my girl was a goddess. The moment she cheated on me or left me, I would just take my Blue Pill a.ss to the next woman and start the next LTR.

What is stopping you from doing this? What is stopping you from being in a LTR?

A LTR is very easy to get if that's what you want. Provided you don't want it too badly causing you to become a woman's b!tch. There is no happiness in being someone's b!tch. LTR's can honestly be a lot of fun.. specially if you're lazy.

When I did LTR's in the past I enjoyed them. The problem for me wasn't being in a LTR, the problem was how much my world would get rocked whenever my woman was unhappy, jealous, testing me, etc. I didn't like the idea that so much of my peace of mind depended on this ONE b!tch. But most important of all: I didn't like the fact that the longer you stay with a woman.. the higher the price of her p*ssy gets.

As cars get older they need more maintenance. They require more and more money to fix and replace parts. At the same time, they grow uglier and more damaged with time. Women are the same.

 

[PantyWhisperer]

What is stopping you from doing this? What is stopping you from being in a LTR?

A LTR is very easy to get if that's what you want. Provided you don't want it too badly causing you to become a woman's b!tch. There is no happiness in being someone's b!tch. LTR's can honestly be a lot of fun.. specially if you're lazy.

When I did LTR's in the past I enjoyed them. The problem for me wasn't being in a LTR, the problem was how much my world would get rocked whenever my woman was unhappy, jealous, testing me, etc. I didn't like the idea that so much of my peace of mind depended on this ONE b!tch. But most important of all: I didn't like the fact that the longer you stay with a woman.. the higher the price of her p*ssy gets.

As cars get older they need more maintenance. They require more and more money to fix and replace parts. At the same time, they grow uglier and more damaged with time. Women are the same.

Yes as the value goes down the price goes up. Women have it backwards. Every time you hit that, it becomes less interesting. Declining value asset, straight line depreciation!

 

[PantyWhisperer]

They're big enough - according to her.

I reported the trump troll to the mods, even though I'm still a noob. And that quickly he's gone, so good on the mods. Very impressive, this board is.

 

[Serenity]

Remembering the debate that you had against myself and Danger, you in a long-term relationship within an 'equality' frame.

Evidently, the pvssy is worth less to me than it is to you.



I open direct. I push a sexual frame. I escalate. I look to fvck (PIV) within 3 dates.

You're just talking bollocks.

You'd be amazed by how smoothly and good my relationship is, I'm happy so I'm obviously doing something right. This is a separate discussion however, it would not be fair to let the past discussion affect this one.

I don't do much for pvssy at all. My girlfriend wouldn't be too happy if we didn't have sex, so if I'm not dragging her to bed she will surely drag me to it. She expects nothing in return for sex.

You still didn't understand my point, but you're free to do whatever the fvck you want.

 

[zekko]

Does this make sense? I just don't think it looks cool at all to be that 50 year old creep still on POF, OKC, Tinder, or out doing "cold approaches". Not to say you can't end up single at 50 by just getting out of a relationship, but you can easily get into another one with your circle:

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Who cares what it looks like? If you're 50 and you want to spin plates, then you should spin plates. One thing that I am very much against is this perception that you are supposed to do things. You should do what you think is right or what is best for you, no matter what age you are. Even the manosphere places certain restrictions on male behavior, and if you don't fall into line with their definition of masculinity, then you get called names - AFC, beta, white knight, etc. Do what works for you.

Are we supposed to spin plates forever? Are we supposed to just NEXT bytches forever when we don't get our way or "control the frame"? At what POINT do we just settle in? There does have to come a point when we settle in....right?:

There's a saying "I don't control the frame, I am the frame". That's how I feel. Not to say I am some superstud with the ladies, because I'm not. But if I don't hold the frame in my relationship, then there is no relationship.

At my age, I know what I'm about. I know how I want to live my life, and that is how I am going to live it. The girl can come along for the ride, or not. I don't play games and I don't tolerate games. If she wants to walk, she can walk. I've learned over time how to be happy on my own. I've lost enough women to know that life goes on, and I'm old enough - my days left on this earth are limited enough - to know that I can't waste time pining for her if she decides she wants something else.

 

[ubercat]

Heheh I am that 50 YO creep on POF and tenacity I've got to tell you it's not so bad. Got a g/f now but I m like you I'm just as happy solo. Yes I m happy to find a long-term partner however not at any cost. As long as you stay healthy and have an income plenty of life still to explore.

 

[Glumix]

The problem for me wasn't being in a LTR, the problem was how much my world would get rocked whenever my woman was unhappy, jealous, testing me, etc. I didn't like the idea that so much of my peace of mind depended on this ONE b!tch. But most important of all: I didn't like the fact that the longer you stay with a woman.. the higher the price of her p*ssy gets.

That's every man weakness.

Men's strengths does not revolve around women but men's weaknesses does.

Men only suffer from love.

Perhaps this is out of our comfort zone. But what on earth is going to make us stronger today?

Isn't that going to be the ultimate test in our life as experienced womanizers? We think we have boundaries, unshakable frame and that we have learnt everything about women? So now we go and let us fall in love and we will see if we are really that strong.

We can be hateful and cynic all our life. It's easy. But being dependent and not losing ourselves is hard. Sure it is the most frightening thing ever, isn't that the best reason to embrace it? Falling in love for a girl and still spinning plates taking the risk of losing her everyday, what about that?

Evolution lie in discomfort and suffering. Life is about experiences.

It's about keeping the Alpha but letting us fall, not in a stupid beta way, but still, we let us fall.

We always argue about why Rollo is married. But Rollo is the Alpha in the marriage and his wife knows she is not going to find any other man greater than Rollo. And she is lazy as well. And her world is limited as well. Pretty much like Rollo's one.

Lying to ourselves is easy when we are afraid. Justification is not a problem. But is it helpful? What is the next step?

 

[Poonani Maker]

8. He can have relationships with women on HIS TERMS because the b!tches who don't act right get ignored and forgotten.
9. He removes the pedestal from ALL women because he sees them for what they are
10. He no longer fears "being alone" or a relationship failing because he knows scarcity is a myth and women can be replaced pretty easily.

Now some men will read this and ask something like: But what about long-term? The answer to that is stop drinking the Disney Koolaid. "Long-term" is a problem the women in your life need to figure out, not you. If a woman wants to lock you down she needs to figure out how to keep YOU long-term and get you away from your plates. This is not your problem.

Unfortunately, we were Born into an age where we MUST live out the greater majority of our male lives like this, but we have no choice, what with the way women ARE nowadays. This is our nature, human nature, male nature, female nature. When you Fight nature, as we have been, oh, for the past 60 years, ever since the WWII Generation went in to "Basic Training" and were beat down like dogs (hence the term "Dog Faces"), taught to OBEY ALL AUTHORITY for FOUR YEARS during World War II, and upon returning from the war, taking up the G.I. Bill (Government Issued) to go to university to OBEY (like good little Dogs) ALL (silly liberal) Professors (who taught them how They outta rule the world) to go out into Business, government, schools, etc etc all facets of society, and implement their silly crazy ideas (mainly communism/socialism and feminism/equality and/or political correctness "women's empowerment" which derives from that silly social engineering they have been attempting for several decades now to make us all "equal"). So the WWII Generation did Not take responsibility for the safety of THEIR children, the "baby boomers," so naturally the baby boomers Rebelled against their WEAK parents, but that does nothing in the end, because the floodgates were already open, and they had no idea what the REAL root of the problem was, which is a WEAK Generation that gave everything away after being beat down like dogs during basic training and for 4 years undergoing Obeying ALL authority. Now, the Previous generations were AMERICAN through and through, and held independent thought in the highest regard. The American men (and women) before the Weakest Generation used to say things like, "A man has a right! to stand up for himself" and "Who do you think you ARE???" and "A man has a right to his Opinion!"

So we were Born into this mess, but with the internet we are not as blindsided about "What Happened??" (to women and society in general). Yes, these SILLY little Professors (in OUR universities, they Purged ALL conservative or right-thinking professors starting in the 1940s), wearing silly little Robes (or dresses, if you will, same as judges, same as PRIESTS - not American, this garb is from the Middle East! these robes and everything are not our - the West's - heritage) destroyed our Natural relations between men and women. Their ideology has infiltrated all facets of society - especially business and the marketing, TV, etc etc realm.

When a realtor is showing a house he is showing it to the female, because he knows today's male must concede to the female, or she'll just say, "It's not working out.." thereby ending the relationship and possibly, if married, taking a great majority of his wealth. The WWII generation gave it all away, and we are now suffering for it, through all the legality of it all, the traps, the snares, as if "romantic" love is really a reality. Before "romance" there was the true man and woman relationship, and romance is mainly conducted solely by the male. The female does nothing. She is NOT the "emotional" one. Men hold Way deeper emotion and will sacrifice their Lives even, for the female. Of course, this is becoming less and less so with "equality" destroying that construct. A female gets raped? Quite a few males these days simply won't get involved or help, whereas before it was automatic coming to their defense.

So we must not give an inch in order to get an inch (inside her).

 

[Tenacity]

Grass is greener syndrome, but until you experience it you won't understand fully I guess.

I and a friend of mine broke up from LTRs around the same time 2 years ago. We were both taking it pretty hard I imagine, took me about 6 months to heal. Turns out, my LTR the wasnt all that meaningful.

2 years later:

I'm beginning another 6 Months grieving process after a LTR. Turns out, my LTR wasn't all that meaningful.

He's fvcking two women but "nothing serious" and enjoying life.

Who do you think feels more empty?

Guys I hear you. Let me pose the question like this then....

What do YOU specifically do when you no longer have passion for spinning plates? Right now I have lost my passion to spin plates entirely. I've been reading some threads from @BeTheChange where he talks about how he has 2 - 4 women lined up in a day. Well, I've been doing stuff like that since 2010 and I'm just sitting here thinking to myself....IS THIS IT?

I have reached the PEAK of the dating game at this point?

- Most women say I'm attractive
- I look the best I've ever looked before
- I have more money than I've ever had before
- Drive the best car I've had in my life

- And I'm able to build up a LOT of plates and spin a LOT of plates at one time. And the plates are mainly all "cute" in terms of looks, being around HB5 - HB8, or on average of a HB6.5

Reading the commentary from you guys, it seems as though I've already arrived.....I'm already PEAKED in terms of the dating game. So this is it? If this is it, then none of this shyt was worth it to me.

After all of the nuts I've busted, I have nothing to show for it. What the fvck was all of this for? There HAS to be a next step to this shyt.....where all of the spinning plates, experience, etc., I've built up since 2010 has to be LEADING me to some next level shyt.....

I'm trying to figure out what that next level is, or, am I already peaked in terms of the dating game? If I've already peaked, then damn this is some mediocre/worthless/meaningless shyt.

 

[Huffman]

Were those things you listed your goal in life?
Anyway, you know they don't make you happy (anymore, they might have made perfect sense some time ago). Get some new goals.

In my eyes, "the game" is merely a hobby, not the be all end all to fulfillment. If you get bored by a hobby, take a break from it, but don't fill a hole in your life with the same old stuff.

I'm pretty sure there isn't a "next step", maybe not in the direction you feel you are going. Hope this yoda post makes some sense to you.

 

[BeTheChange]

Guys I hear you. Let me pose the question like this then....

What do YOU specifically do when you no longer have passion for spinning plates? Right now I have lost my passion to spin plates entirely. I've been reading some threads from @BeTheChange where he talks about how he has 2 - 4 women lined up in a day. Well, I've been doing stuff like that since 2010 and I'm just sitting here thinking to myself....IS THIS IT?

I have reached the PEAK of the dating game at this point?

- Most women say I'm attractive
- I look the best I've ever looked before
- I have more money than I've ever had before
- Drive the best car I've had in my life

- And I'm able to build up a LOT of plates and spin a LOT of plates at one time. And the plates are mainly all "cute" in terms of looks, being around HB5 - HB8, or on average of a HB6.5

Reading the commentary from you guys, it seems as though I've already arrived.....I'm already PEAKED in terms of the dating game. So this is it? If this is it, then none of this shyt was worth it to me.

After all of the nuts I've busted, I have nothing to show for it. What the fvck was all of this for? There HAS to be a next step to this shyt.....where all of the spinning plates, experience, etc., I've built up since 2010 has to be LEADING me to some next level shyt.....

I'm trying to figure out what that next level is, or, am I already peaked in terms of the dating game? If I've already peaked, then damn this is some mediocre/worthless/meaningless shyt.

It's because you place way too much value on getting the woman. You have given yourself away. Perhaps we have finally determined the root of your problem? If you genuinely think all the things you listed (good job, money, car, education) are "not worth it" because you haven't found a "good" woman, then you still have the wrong mindset and you will NEVER be happy until you change this.

I'm having fun with the women in my life now but they will never be the most significant part of my life or a primary source of happiness nor should they.

 

[Tenacity]

If you genuinely think all the things you listed (good job, money, car, education) are "not worth it" because you haven't found a "good" woman.....

No not those things. What I was referring to as not being "worth it" was all of the plates I've spun, been spinning, all of the dates I've done, fvck sessions I've done, and short term relationships I've done.

At the end of the day, I have nothing to show for ALL of that time, energy, brain power, gas money, and other monies that were spent for those activities. Most of the women I used to date/fvck I don't even speak to anymore, a good chunk of them can't STAND me for various reasons. So what was the purpose of all of that?

I always like to look deeper at things and it seems like there are two different stages here.

Dating/Fvcking Stage: This is where you want to be red pill, have your looks, personality, and finances together, then go out there and approach women in mass. You'll be able to get consistent dates, fvcks, and short term relations. You will also have multiple women you are talking to at once (plate spinning).

The LTR/Settling Down Stage: This is actually where you take all of the red pill knowledge you have to find some SORT of unicorn or some SORT of woman that is different than the "majority/average" market of women....allowing you to do some sort of structured, serious, LTR with her. You would still keep your looks, personality, and finances UP, but this is where you actually want to go back to some "managed" version of Blue Pill or what is seen as "Beta Male-ness" to be able to maintain said relationship.

Am I wrong on my analysis here? I feel like I'm coming out of the Dating/Fvcking Stage and ready to move into the LTR/Settling Down Stage. The plate spinning stuff just isn't my passion anymore....I want something serious.

 

[skinnyguy]

Guys I hear you. Let me pose the question like this then....

What do YOU specifically do when you no longer have passion for spinning plates? Right now I have lost my passion to spin plates entirely. I've been reading some threads from @BeTheChange where he talks about how he has 2 - 4 women lined up in a day. Well, I've been doing stuff like that since 2010 and I'm just sitting here thinking to myself....IS THIS IT?

I have reached the PEAK of the dating game at this point?

- Most women say I'm attractive
- I look the best I've ever looked before
- I have more money than I've ever had before
- Drive the best car I've had in my life

- And I'm able to build up a LOT of plates and spin a LOT of plates at one time. And the plates are mainly all "cute" in terms of looks, being around HB5 - HB8, or on average of a HB6.5

Reading the commentary from you guys, it seems as though I've already arrived.....I'm already PEAKED in terms of the dating game. So this is it? If this is it, then none of this shyt was worth it to me.

After all of the nuts I've busted, I have nothing to show for it. What the fvck was all of this for? There HAS to be a next step to this shyt.....where all of the spinning plates, experience, etc., I've built up since 2010 has to be LEADING me to some next level shyt.....

I'm trying to figure out what that next level is, or, am I already peaked in terms of the dating game? If I've already peaked, then damn this is some mediocre/worthless/meaningless shyt.

See that's the difference between guys like you and me. I would never date an HB 5. I can get them easily like you can, but so what?

Since you're tired of spinning plates, maybe you should get married and have a child. Then who knows maybe you'll be challenged more.

 

[zekko]

I and a friend of mine broke up from LTRs around the same time 2 years ago. We were both taking it pretty hard I imagine, took me about 6 months to heal. Turns out, my LTR the wasnt all that meaningful.

See, this is the value of life experience, although the price is getting older. I've had painful breakups, and you're right, 6 months later you look back and you don't regret it at all. In fact, you usually think "Well, that was for the best". This is why I won't spend six months mourning a breakup anymore. I'm not saying it won't hurt, but I know from experience that in the future I won't care anyway, so why get so upset about it now?

What do YOU specifically do when you no longer have passion for spinning plates? Right now I have lost my passion to spin plates entirely.

If you don't want to spin plates, then don't. The most important thing about plate spinning IMO is learning the abundance mentality. If you have that, what difference does it make? Some like the ego stroke of having a harem though, makes them feel alpha. But it sounds like you are just tired of dating period. You know what they say: "Women, can't live with them, can't live without them".

Personally, I do find LTRs more satisfying. I've always preferred fewer, deeper relationships than huge numbers of casual acquaintances anyway, even in my friendships. It's just the way I am. So I understand why you are finding all the casual sex relatively meaningless, I reached that point myself.

 

[corrector]

I don't get spinning plates. Isn't that sort of showing that you need to have constant validation from other women to feel worthy of your own LTR/wife?
As a single person you need validation from women. In a relationship you need validation from OTHER woman than your SO. What's the point of getting into a relationship in the first place then if you still need more validation, or you are worst off if it doesn't work out than if you never had it in the first place?

 

[Poon King]

I don't get spinning plates. Isn't that sort of showing that you need to have constant validation from other women to feel worthy of your own LTR/wife?
As a single person you need validation from women. In a relationship you need validation from OTHER woman than your SO. What's the point of getting into a relationship in the first place then if you still need more validation, or you are worst off if it doesn't work out than if you never had it in the first place?

A lot of projection here. Replace the word "NEED" with "want". Then your post makes more sense.

Spinning plates makes logical sense. 100% commitment makes emotional sense because it provides a FALSE sense of security for a man with a frail ego. In addition.. 100% commitment is based on FEAR. Its well known that people will do more to avoid pain than to seek pleasure. This is why we admire the strong so much. No one admires the weak.. because being weak is easy. Submission is easy. Pandering is easy. Playing it safe is easy.

Spinning plates minimizes the degree a man must SUBMIT to a woman's terms to get what he wants.

Here is my question to you: Why do you prefer submission over dominance? Serious question.

Another thing to remember (as someone else already pointed out earlier in this thread) is abundance is a state of mind. Its not about validation from women.. its about getting what you want from women: sex, pleasure and submission. Validation is for faggots.

Any man who makes women his "purpose" in life has already lost the game. Women are for sexual pleasure, reproduction and entertainment.

• Alphas live life for their goals
• Betas live life for women.

 

[guru1000]

I noticed a couple counter-arguments using the term "seeking validation" with respect to spinning plates and attaining confidence. It's a strong counter insofar as "seeking validation" has been painted with beta brushstrokes in this forum, so let's address further:

As noted in Post 51, in the context of validation, we must first bifurcate between "inner value" and "confidence to attain outside resources."

"Inner value" deals with the inner, and thus rests with the inner. Ergo, "inner value" does not require outside validation.
"Genuine confidence to attain outside resources" deals with the outer, and thus rests with the outer. Ergo, such a confidence requires at least a minimum level of outside evidence of support.

So let's qualify the counter-argument further to be: Why does one first require validation from the outside resource to attain genuine confidence to attain the outside resource?

The simple answer is above; that is; what deals with the outside, rests with the outside.

The more thorough answer is that until you have secured an outside resource by your own efforts, any thoughts regarding your ability to attain that outside resource are based neither on reality nor evidence. Rather, it is a self-contrived thought; wishful thinking if you will.

A virgin who has had no prior experience or communications with women can contrive a thought that he is god's gift to women, but such a a thought or confidence is unsubstantiated, and thus fragile. What do I mean by fragile (as opposed to genuine)? When this Superman-contrived virgin approaches a few women and gets shut down, that "confidence" will evaporate instantly. In contrast, let's take a seasoned DJ whom had his score of hot women: The seasoned DJ approaches and gets shut down: here, the seasoned DJ's confidence remains unaffected, as he already has internalized his confidence (after having already attained scores of hot women) and now KNOWS who he is.

As much as we like to shame the word "validation," the truth demonstrates that EVERYBODY needs a form of previous external validation at one point or another from the resource in question to build genuine confidence in attaining that resource. This is how our courts of law run: on "evidence," not "opinion."

If any counter-positions, show me just one example how one can build unbreakable genuine confidence to attain any outside resource before ever having dealt with that resource in a successful way?

 

[Poon King]

I noticed a couple counter-arguments using the term "seeking validation" with respect to spinning plates and attaining confidence. It's a strong counter insofar as "seeking validation" has been painted with beta brushstrokes in this forum, so let's address further:

As noted in Post 51, in the context of validation, we must first bifurcate between "inner value" and "confidence to attain outside resources."

"Inner value" deals with the inner, and thus rests with the inner. Ergo, "inner value" does not require outside validation.
"Genuine confidence to attain outside resources" deals with the outer, and thus rests with the outer. Ergo, such a confidence requires at least a minimum level of outside evidence of support.

So let's qualify the counter-argument further to be: Why does one first require validation from the outside resource to attain genuine confidence to attain the outside resource?

The simple answer is above; that is; what deals with the outside, rests with the outside.

The more thorough answer is that until you have secured an outside resource by your own efforts, any thoughts regarding your ability to attain that outside resource are based neither on reality nor evidence. Rather, it is a self-contrived thought; wishful thinking if you will.

A virgin who has had no prior experience or communications with women can contrive a thought that he is god's gift to women, but such a a thought or confidence is unsubstantiated, and thus fragile. What do I mean by fragile (as opposed to genuine)? When this Superman-contrived virgin approaches a few women and gets shut down, that "confidence" will evaporate instantly. In contrast, let's take a seasoned DJ whom had his score of hot women: The seasoned DJ approaches and gets shut down: here, the seasoned DJ's confidence remains unaffected, as he already has internalized his confidence (after having already attained scores of hot women) and now KNOWS who he is.

As much as we like to shame the word "validation," the truth demonstrates that EVERYBODY needs a form of previous external validation at one point or another from the resource in question to build genuine confidence in attaining that resource. This is how our courts of law run: on "evidence," not "opinion."

If any counter-positions, show me just one example how one can build unbreakable genuine confidence to attain any outside resource before ever having dealt with that resource in a successful way?

Strong argument.

I think this boils down to what your definition of "validation" is. Everything in life and the outside world follows a "cause and effect" pattern. Is learning how a system works so that you can benefit from it a form of "validation"?

EXAMPLE:
You learn that if you tell random strangers on the street you lost your wallet and need $10 to get to work on time.. about 50% of them will give you $10. Does this success give a man "validation" OR did that man just learn a new way to get strangers to give him $10? Succeeding at something has less to do with you and more to do with your actions. Is learning new actions a reason to feel validated?

Same with women. Does learning certain patterns in female behavior that allow you to sleep with women easier a reason to feel "validation"? OR did you just learn ACTIONS that allow you to get what you want from more women? Does learning new things give you "validation" or are you just learning new things?

I think its a matter of perspective. To me, validation comes from acquiring success from things that come NATURAL to me. I get no validation from things I learned. For instance.. if I'm naturally better at something than others.. that gives me inner validation.

My feelings of worth don't come from female approval or access to a woman's body. Women exist for sexual pleasure, entertainment and reproduction. You can buy and sell a woman's body, attention and sexuality. Women at their most basic level are prostitutes. You "pay" in some way and they give you their body. What validation comes from that? You are the highest bidder so you should feel good about yourself? Please..

When men's egos are based on their success with women.. they are making women something greater than what they are. This is called "pedestalization" and it comes from the Disney mindset that "Women = Happiness and Success".

What validates a man depends on how he views the world and how he defines personal and worldly success. Validation is not a "need" it is a "want" born of Disney.

• Alphas want = Power, success, freedom
• Betas want = Validation, approval, attention

I define success as a man's ability to live on his own terms and thrive that way. The more you have to submit to others.. the more of a loser you are in my book. I see the desire for "validation" as feminine and pathetic. This is not to say validation doesn't feel good. I LOVE validation. It definitely feels amazing. But that should not be what you live your life for.

If a man defines success as "having a wife" then he is creating a situation where he can only feel "validated" and successful if a woman commits to him. He can be miserable, bored, sexless and a faggot.. but he is "successful" because he is married. This is the mindset Blue Pill society supports.

 

[guru1000]

My feelings of worth don't come from female approval or access to a woman's body.

Here is the central point, which gets confounded in how many here understand the word "validation."

Which goes back to what I stated:

In the context of validation, we must first bifurcate between "inner value" and "confidence to attain outside resources."

One can have inner value without confidence or contrariwise; or have both or neither. Hence, the douchebag druggie that knows he is a piece of shvt but sleeps with tons of hot women. He knows he has no value, but has a ****load of confidence. Or the self-made entrepreneur orphan who transcended and swallowed life's attempt to shlt all over him, who has tremendous inner value having overcoming much but does not possess the confidence to attract women because he was too busy working and has no track record with women.

"Inner value" deals with the inner, and thus rests with the inner. Ergo, "inner value" does not require outside validation. Hence, a female's approval cannot affect your "inner value," though it might affect your confidence depending on how confident you truly are. Inner value has little to do with outside validation, but more to deal with internal thinking models and how true to and the amount of conviction one has toward his chosen path.

"Confidence to attain outside resources" deals with the outer, and thus rests with the outer. So, let's say in your example here:

You learn that if you tell random strangers on the street you lost your wallet and need $10 to get to work on time.. about 50% of them will give you $10. Does this success give a man "validation" OR did that man just learn a new way to get strangers to give him $10?

The man's "inner value" is not validated. BUT, the man's confidence to extract $10 from strangers by asking is validated.

I am 100% confident in attaining a harem of 9s today today from my evidenced track record of 9s. But if my previous track record were 6s at best, I would not be as confident in attracting a harem of 9s. Irrespectively, though, my inner value derives not from my track record of 9s, but rather from KNOWING my ability to remain resolute to my game plan irrespective of what my track record demonstrates.

If a man defines success as "having a wife" then he is creating a situation where he can only feel "validated" and successful if a woman commits to him.

This is the "inner value" problem; that is, looking to the outside to instill value that can only be created from within.