The idea of having sex within 2 or 3 date is simply stupid when you are....

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Guys expect to have quality girls and they expect the chick to give head within the first or second date? That is simply stupid. If the chick is really quality and don't wanna share their intimacy just with any stranger, then you next her and say that she is a bad chick? Sometimes I wonder whether this whole forum is a hypocrisy.

Where has all the love and friendship gone to? Is it true that love and friendship is not accepted here? Just biology? Animals? We are human beings for god sake.. Why in the hell would you drag humanity down to animals again.
 

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The point is to be the kind of guy that she feels she needs to have sex with on the 2nd or 3rd date to keep him around. "Quality" Girls will let you do whatever u want to them if they want to keep you around that bad. Youre telling me the nicest girl you know wouldn't let Brad Pitt stick it in her pooper and then skullfvck her with the same d1ck? Shes prob fantasize about it. Ok maybe not something that extreme in her head but you get the point

When it comes to Women, you play chess not checkers
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
This strawman comes up constantly :/ Its basically just Rollo that says this. Most of us push for sex early to screen women. If you dont push for sex and she manages to hold out she could still be a hor.
THIS

I know chicks who had "sketchy" past who saw me as a "Provider" (Beta) so they would pull this shyt. The longest I've waited is a month even with quality women I've dated if a girl made me wait longer then that then either 1. She is not attracted or 2 I'm in the friend zone
 

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BraddH said:
Guys expect to have quality girls and they expect the chick to give head within the first or second date? That is simply stupid. If the chick is really quality and don't wanna share their intimacy just with any stranger, then you next her and say that she is a bad chick? Sometimes I wonder whether this whole forum is a hypocrisy.

Where has all the love and friendship gone to? Is it true that love and friendship is not accepted here? Just biology? Animals? We are human beings for god sake.. Why in the hell would you drag humanity down to animals again.
Ok who thawed the baby boomer out? Might want to google the last 4 decades bud. Hint: Start with "grrrl power' and "I don't need no man....besides big daddy alpha gubmint"
 

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OP: Have that mentality all you want...I did, when I was a young buck. The reality is, what are you really waiting for? If she's a virgin....might be worth a longer courting time...but a college chick that has had a few boyfriends???....(maybe not a colossal sluut)...but understand:

She has probably:
1. been fingered
2. been fingered in the ass
3. been banged in multiple positions
4. stroked multiple c0cks
5. smoked multiple c0cks
6. swallowed several to many loads of goo
7. done anal
8. licked balls
9. licked bung
10. sniffed ass
11. been tit fvcked
12. had a mega load of goo sprayed on her t!ts
13. had a mega load of goo sprayed on her face
.......................need i go on?

Again...what are you REALLY waiting for?

You're pedestalizing p00n...and that is rule number one of what NOT to do!
 

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Who in the world is looking for "quality" women? hahaha
Isn't that why you're on POF eight hours a day.....searching for the one?
 

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The guys on this forum will think you're a phaggot if you're looking for a relationship. Don't waste your time on them.
 

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Peaks&Valleys said:
Isn't that why you're on POF eight hours a day.....searching for the one?
Heheh exactly... searching for the one for this weekend. :crackup:

And I've pared down my POFing recently. I've just been lacking the pure horniness that drives me to do it for some reason. Guess summer's over :(
 

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Keep putting the pu$$y on that golden pedestal if you wanna be an orbiter, a beta provider, or just a friend.

Sorry, sex first, relationship second. I'm sure PlayHer Man will have something to say about this.

Case closed.
 

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skinnyguy said:
The guys on this forum will think you're a phaggot if you're looking for a relationship. Don't waste your time on them.
sorry mate, but i don't think this bashing mentality goes anywhere.
and also i think you are wrong. no one has anything against relationships if that is what someone wants. the question is, what kind of relationship, and why a relationship. also, how you screen out the tramps. problem is, a girl uses sex as an asset. even total slvts can play the shy girl, if they are not interested/wanting to lure you into thinking they are quality.
and even the most pious/quality girl plays along if she likes you. have a relationship if that floats your boat, hell, even i have one right now, because i feel like it, and this one seems fun. BUT: do not be a sucker and think that if a girl does not put out early, she is quality. they are manipulative and cold. good news is, they are also stupid. use that to your advantage.
there are many kinds of personalities here. red pill/blue pill, white knights/woman haters, romantics/pragmatics. why do we need to bash each other all the time? in the end we all want the same thing. to get along/not to be used by women.
my advice: spin plates, avoid oneitis, not to screw women, but because this mentality will actually do good to a relationship. and don't fall into their childish traps. they do that. it is their nature. no need for hate, just accept it, and turn it to your advantage.
 

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Big Nuts said:
OP: Have that mentality all you want...I did, when I was a young buck. The reality is, what are you really waiting for? If she's a virgin....might be worth a longer courting time...but a college chick that has had a few boyfriends???....(maybe not a colossal sluut)...but understand:

She has probably:
1. been fingered
2. been fingered in the ass
3. been banged in multiple positions
4. stroked multiple c0cks
5. smoked multiple c0cks
6. swallowed several to many loads of goo
7. done anal
8. licked balls
9. licked bung
10. sniffed ass
11. been tit fvcked
12. had a mega load of goo sprayed on her t!ts
13. had a mega load of goo sprayed on her face
.......................need i go on?

Again...what are you REALLY waiting for?

You're pedestalizing p00n...and that is rule number one of what NOT to do!
Making a lot of sense! Good job :)
 

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CrimsonPanther said:
sorry mate, but i don't think this bashing mentality goes anywhere.
and also i think you are wrong. no one has anything against relationships if that is what someone wants. the question is, what kind of relationship, and why a relationship. also, how you screen out the tramps. problem is, a girl uses sex as an asset. even total slvts can play the shy girl, if they are not interested/wanting to lure you into thinking they are quality.
and even the most pious/quality girl plays along if she likes you. have a relationship if that floats your boat, hell, even i have one right now, because i feel like it, and this one seems fun. BUT: do not be a sucker and think that if a girl does not put out early, she is quality. they are manipulative and cold. good news is, they are also stupid. use that to your advantage.
there are many kinds of personalities here. red pill/blue pill, white knights/woman haters, romantics/pragmatics. why do we need to bash each other all the time? in the end we all want the same thing. to get along/not to be used by women.
my advice: spin plates, avoid oneitis, not to screw women, but because this mentality will actually do good to a relationship. and don't fall into their childish traps. they do that. it is their nature. no need for hate, just accept it, and turn it to your advantage.
Very well said! Except the part that they are stupid: I'm in medical school and all these girls here are very intelligent and catch on to little things.
 

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BraddH said:
Guys expect to have quality girls and they expect the chick to give head within the first or second date? That is simply stupid.
I'm going to tell you about the last quality woman I had in my life... My ex-wife. We waited for two months to have sex. After we married, she was never home. She was out spending time with friends and blowing her money on crap. I ended the marriage when I found out she was fvcking her best friend's husband.

So yes, we should wait to have sex so we can find quality women like this.
 

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Guys, the problem is getting bored of the same shvt. Now I get pretty fast bored with chvk I don't feel anything for. And a small part of "o-neitis" will give me some joy.

You guys must be very much against women, because when you are against something whether it is their bull**** or **** tests, you are giving them much power. For example, I don't have any prejudices, that this forum talks about, so I won't be disappointed. And when there is no dissappoinment, it is very lukewarm, the relationship. And the girl I am talking about is sixteen year old virgin from Finland. So don't compare her to 22 year old American sluts who just realised her pvssy might get some poor men's attention. Not talking about them.

Sometimes I wonder, do the guys here have any joy in their life? I know you are very much against emotions, that men don't live with emotion but if you are aware, the very being against emotions has alot of emotions in it. Anger or hatred or being against something is from emotion.

I like the people here, so I won't go to any stupid depression forum where they make it worst, but let me share something of my being to you. I no longer find any motivation, any need to have dreams, ambitions. We can go down that road sonetimes in another thread. Right now I am currently high school last year and I find no need to study. But when.. I have a girl next to me, I do feel motivation to go on in life. The girl, or the love can give you wvrything you need in life: joy and sorrow.

Like how you make the girl miss you and love you more by "going away" from her, you know joy when you know sorrow. There is a deep contrast.

What are you aiming to be in the top of the world for? Just to be happy. Now if we look closer to the prime minister and presidents and the world war three starters.. The so-called top people's in the world.. They seem to be more worried than us ordinary people. What are they doing, destroying our home planet? I think they are simply stupid. Rather than recognizing then as the top people in the world, we should recognize then as the lowest people in he world. Because the top human bing would never go making nuclear weapons, destroying the world. Rather he would go on making more life, more peace. More flowers and more joy, dancing - more ecstasy.

I will share something beautiful with ou guys, don't condemn if you don't like it because Ina subtle way you are only proving that you like it. If ou have something to critics, you are welcome:

There certainly are chick who consciously loves to fvck but i cant consider those chicks quality. They are simply animals, just biology.

And there are the higher dimensionals, more human beings who authentically dreams and desires for a romantic relationship where she can feel so muh joy arising, relaxing while resting her head on his chest. Girls that want a sexual romantic adventure. Girls that wants a relationship with tears, tears of sadness and tears of joy. The feeling that something is missing in her life and the feeling that there is more than what she hoped for. The ultimate joy and the deepest misery. Certainly they don't want the misery part consciously but they know subconsciously that it is the part of the deep intimate love relationship.

I myself am just seventeen, I turn eighteen in 2 month and this girl I have been just chilling with without any expectation is sixteen, 16. I myself can't stand the idea that I am simply biology. I won't waste a singe minute in a relationship with a girl if there is no joy, love and meaning. If it is just sex where I release my tension then in call it just sex, in no way love or relationship. Just fvck relationship. If the chvk also just want to be an animal, biology ten good.

So with this girl, until recently once I realised that she really wants to just rest her head.in my chest to feel he most happiest girl in the world, the most relaxed. And it is weird because that got into me too, I start to feel very joyful, much more than before just letting her rest her head on my chest and shoulders. It feels like aggressiveness and passive was meeting, merging creating one whole energy. It is like yin and yan. I feel like while pursuing my dreams so aggressively I need someone who I can just relax unto. Just being passive while aggressive. Seeing how she is so passive on my shoulders, it penetrates my being too. At this point, sex is irrelevant. This feels muh better than sex. And I am sure she feels the same. This feels like the best orgasm ever. And it can last for days. Like no orgasm ever last more than a few seconds and feel this good. So we as human being has love for this, so that our orgasm are muh more higher and deeper. But the orgasm is more mental, physology than biology, physiology.

The same way she is so passive in her dreams that she needs someone aggressive to fill her other part. I notice how she needs me more and more and once we spent time together she is so aggressively passive into me. An many times this triggers such a high sexual tension in both of us the sex is crazy, the orgasm are crazy. And It is just a beginning. Once the biology is out of the way, the mental joy starts arisin again and we basically just do this like bunch a times every time we see. It can go on for days, sometimes half a day sometimes few hours. She is only seventeen soon but she is more if a love person and relationship, family kinda clingy an I find it very rare nowadays, sig a blessed girl. She certainly is against sex without feelings and emotions and that means no strangers.

Now my point is that we should stop hating on our inner and women's inner desire to love each other. I are way too many guys hating women when it can turn into one of the most beautiful experiences. Just the other day I saw a guy post a thread about how ugly looking women dear to come and talk to him and feeling al good about herself, that it pisses her off. And recently someone posted that he thinks he hate women, and he gathered quite an amount of agrees. Then this whole forum teaches you to not be in a deep love, commitment with the woman. That she is just your toy, your compliment. Such craziness. Maybe when the world was just biology, did that work since women has the nine month pregnancy he needs to select one with the most value. It is different now.

Maybe the chicks in our society has their own "how to be woman" forum and act all not interest and shvt so that men gets more interested in them just like this donnjuan forum is about. We should all forget all this crappy acting and shvt and just be authentic human beings.

Don't take my misspellings so seriously now. I write from iPhone and it is not easy.

Is criticizing here allowed? I think I am being criticized here and now. You guys must be talkin abut some slut American ***** colleges.

I've been to the hottest girls "college party" here in Finland and they don't do shot, they simply drunk their ass off and get to a sauna. Then there are some girls that look above average, fine, beautiful but is not interested in alcohol and shvt like that. They are authentically interested in a relationship. Bish.. Talking here about love an shvt is like talking to monkeys. You guys are simply the other extreme of the nice guys.

I understand that is the mentality towards "fvcks" chcks. It is a little different when you wanna share some shvt with a 16 year old chvk who has kissed once, who is still fresh young and virgin. I myself am seventeen. Do you think she will be able to just fvck you within first date? Maybe. Who knows. But if she doesn't and you see something in here, might as well chill out with the relationship for a little bit longer. Now I am not saying that girls doesn't have the slut inside them, every single girl has it in them.
 

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alpha_ash said:
Very well said! Except the part that they are stupid: I'm in medical school and all these girls here are very intelligent and catch on to little things.
haha yes, you may be right. i meant stupid as in "we can outsmart them easily if we know their games" their game does not really change, because it is more than good enough for 90% of the average guys, and they cannot recognize our games if done properly. i also don't associate intelligence with "ability to learn a lot of things". oh well this is my opinion anyways. i hope it clears up a little what i meant.
 

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Dude you're my age, we know little.
Age does not matter. Age does not tell much about ones intelligent. There was one chinese mystic who learned the whole china language at the age of seven. In ten years after that e learned the worlds three most hard languages.

Now whether you know it or not, you are millions and billions of lifetimes old.
 

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I myself am just seventeen,
Congratulations, enjoy this time of having the world all figured out, and I don't mean that sarcastically, enjoy it while it lasts. It is a great time of life.

Once that passes, though, make sure to question everything from every angle, not just certain things from certain angles. Presuppose nothing, including whether the POVs you read here or hear or are taught elsewhere are right or wrong. Make sure where you end up is your own way, not a way someone else has plotted out for you. Good luck.
 

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I agree with Nismo on this one, we push for sex so we can gauge how into us they are and whether or not we are wasting our time. OP let me ask you this, so you're willing to put in a month's, maybe more than a month's worth of time during the courting process all because you think she is a "quality" woman? I for one would not do this, because A. I shouldn't have to devote that much time to figure a girl out and B. because I sure as hell ain't putting in that kind of time to find out that she's not going to give it up. We're not against relationships on this forum but like someone pointed out, we're trying to be the guy that she WANTS to sleep with after a few dates or whatever.
 
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