The idea of having sex within 2 or 3 date is simply stupid when you are....

[DonGorgon]

You certainly must have never known what love is. Your mother must have missed you. I feel sorry.

I am a realist... i tell people like you the truth when your heart is broken cause you found your girlfriend or wife Fed you best friend and you brother...lol

love is fine.. but when it ends and yo come here to cry .. i will tell you why..lol

 

[BraddH]

I am a realist... i tell people like you the truth when your heart is broken cause you found your girlfriend or wife Fed you best friend and you brother...lol

love is fine.. but when it ends and yo come here to cry .. i will tell you why..lol

Crying is fine too. Are you an Egypt?

 

[pinkfl]

most men have stable and can win his bread and for his family, but not buy a new car each year, a new Iphone each 6 months plus travels, new dresses to each time they go out, simple put woman can't control they cost, is not a hard thing to think why almost all advertising have woman as targets, they will spend all they money without care, men will save his money for something he find worth to have it also come to my mind why its easier find a men have savings or have insurance named to his wife and childrens, women is pretty hard you even find one with simple pig bank.

plus why a guy nowadays will be a provider? no woman is worthy the hassle, and since we are bend to lose half of our money if your wife feels like grassing on that greener pasture. woman today have all rights no reponsability, and when we try to make then to have more obligations they complain its too hard.

one thing I think I undertand why woman selebrate they 15 year so hard, it to tell everyone, see her? she will not mature past this point.

Oh yeah...all advertising has woman as targets...Not.
Seriously! ALL OF ADVERTISING TARGETS WOMEN!
Here's another example of that not happening!
No. Companies target both genders.

The examples you gave are ridiculous, and completely without basis.

Breadwinner does not equal being a spendthrift. Demonizing all women and making incorrect blanket statements isn't going to prove your point. If anything, you proved my point.

 

[dasein]

Howdy, dasein. It's TheBigQuestion from LoveShack. I've decided to take a self-imposed exile from that place and see what this site has to offer. After all, I was often accused of being a troll from here. Maybe now I will actually become one.

I think pinkfl's post makes more sense when you take it in its entirety as opposed to focusing in on her exaggerated paranoia in regards to getting pregnant.

Hey man, hope things are going well! Yeah, I was ornery when I posted that, heh. As far as this forum goes, no need for that many longwinded posts here as despite some disagreements, there is something in the air called "reason" here that doesn't exist in profusion on LS, and nothing exists here like the vet narcissist cadre on LS.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

omfg, you guys (djgirl, braddh, syrio etc) just go to a cosmopolitan forum and stay there.
you just don't understand / are women / trolls / idiots (you pick one).

FACTS: if a girl likes you, she WILL act accordingly. especially quality girls. if she withholds sex or other physical contacts, she NEVER is a quality girl or she does not like you. period. if she witholds sex when she likes you, news flash: she is a manipulative girl. it does not matter if she does it because she wants you to crave her more, or to protect some illusion of value, reputation. the only excuse to a girl not wanting to get physical with you is if she does not like you, or she is still a virgin, and thinks seks is some big deal, and she is afraid. but even then, she will do other things, and will try to make it easy for you to "open her up".
and even if she has something against fooking you on the first date (red flag anyway), she will be very affectionate and receptive of everything.

if someone is here to learn: DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE CHARLATANS. they are liars, deceivers or they have no clue. they come to a forum for MEN and say things like "men are pathetic", or that "everyone is hating because i am a girl posting here". everyone is hating because you are stupid, and write stupid things, rehearsed copy pasta from old fashioned feminist agendas.

i am amazed of how this djgirl character knows so very little of women. the self deceiving is strong in this one.
it is not about being a white knight (aka loser doormat for women) versus jerk . it is about being responsible mature human beings, not ashamed of what we feel, and to act about it. these so called moral woman-defending crusades are just sorry attempts for trolling, self-validating, and the proof of inability to be a balanced and mature human.
and what i also see, is that some people purposefully want to be trolls. trolling is not fun, 'mkay? it is proof that someone has stooped so low as to renounce his/her dignity for some crumbs of attention. it is lame.
as for the normal users: the fact that a girl sleeps with you on the first few dates or not, has NOTHING to do with quality versus hor. a girl who likes you, and is quality, will be a hor for you, and a saint to others. that is quality. look at how she acts WITH OTHERS. is she flirty with your/her friends? is she self-entitled? is she an extremist feminist? has family issues, was she abused, is she texting while being on a date with you?
use your heads guys, don't fall for all this phony nonsense these brainwashed manipulative people are saying. and i am sorry for the tl;dr post.

 

[Desdinova]

My father's company closed, and the very next day he had another job lined up paying better. He didn't come crying home to my mother and then lie around drinking beer. He put his big-boy panties on

Your dad wears panties?

It boils down to the fact that men are not providers in this day and age.

Are you dating men in their early 20s who flip burgers at McDonalds?

I think men are more willing to be providers than you think. Most men out there WANT to take care of their woman (if they have one), give her the things she wants, buy her a nice engagement ring, and work towards keeping her.

So, for my future generation, I'm not going to lie down with some guy just because he's "hot" and gives me tingly feelings. I'll do it when he's committed.

I'll bet that you sat down with every man you slept with, and had a rational discussion about commitment before having sex. I'll bet there's nothing that gets you wetter than having a logical discussion about planned intercourse.

Hearing this from a woman always makes me laugh. You're so logical and have a good head on your shoulders! Too bad it all goes out the window when a man reaches into your natural desire to sleep with him by appealing to your emotions instead of appealing to your logic.

If a girl is smart, she knows how to ignore those tingly feelings. She knows how to say no.

Women who have these strong "morals" have an internal debate of logic vs emotion when a guy shows up in her life and "sweeps her off her feet". If she DOES have strong morals, he will be able to strip them away piece by piece if he's persistent enough.

 

[Alvafe]

Oh yeah...all advertising has woman as targets...Not.
Seriously! ALL OF ADVERTISING TARGETS WOMEN!
Here's another example of that not happening!
No. Companies target both genders.

The examples you gave are ridiculous, and completely without basis.

Breadwinner does not equal being a spendthrift. Demonizing all women and making incorrect blanket statements isn't going to prove your point. If anything, you proved my point.

I said almost all, even if english is not my mother language I did that part right, and bread winner is a guy the spendthrift is the woman, if is incorrect and blank you have to prove me wrong girly not me, its you who have to prove anything, if you don't like it, its your problem

 

[fuzzball]

OK but it is a FEMALE responsibility to choose one guy,wait for sex and to further a LTR. You are putting all the responsibility on the male. Females are the selectors and have the option, not males.

You are missing the point that most females do not want to pick ONE stable and sincere guy, do not want to wait for sex, do not want to further a LTR.

It works kind of like this. Guy: "Let's have sex.". Girl: "I'm not having sex until marriage." Guy: "OK let's get married!". Girl: "I don't know you that well yet." Guy: "what if we were still dating after 2 months and got married?" Girl: "OK if we're still dating after 2 months then we can get married.".

But the point is females fundamentally get to be the selectors and set the timing of sex. It's their choice. Most women are choosing many short term mating with guys too attractive to be available for anything else.

no its both sexes responsibility to want to do this. humans are not dogs or apes.....the human male is as such not like them and meant to screw every piece of ass he sees. the responsibility of family raising falls on both parents.

if you want a quality girl be a quality man and vice versa. I am laying blame at both sexes here not just one. just as i see the errors of my ways and being a manchild women too need see the error of their ways.

 

[Stagger Lee]

no its both sexes responsibility to want to do this. humans are not dogs or apes.....the human male is as such not like them and meant to screw every piece of ass he sees. the responsibility of family raising falls on both parents.

if you want a quality girl be a quality man and vice versa. I am laying blame at both sexes here not just one. just as i see the errors of my ways and being a manchild women too need see the error of their ways.

Lots of men want a decent and loyal girlfriend but can't find anything but disloyal slvts. Most of the blame is on females.

 

[BraddH]

Lots of men want a decent and loyal girlfriend but can't find anything but disloyal slvts. Most of the blame is on females.

No. Don't throw the responsibility on the weak. Man has dominated earth for centuries and centuries, it is them to be blamed- take your ****ing own responsibility.

 

[djgirl]

No. Don't throw the responsibility on the weak. Man has dominated earth for centuries and centuries, it is them to be played - take your ****ing own responsibility.

WORD!

 

[Stagger Lee]

No. Don't throw the responsibility on the weak. Man has dominated earth for centuries and centuries, it is them to be blamed- take your ****ing own responsibility.

These social policies were set in the 60's and 70's. The only way to get things back to way they were is to go back to pre-60's policies. Men holding out for a "quality" girlfriend isn't going to work. You have to take away all the laws and regulations that have empowered women, too.

 

[BraddH]

These social policies were set in the 60's and 70's. The only way to get things back to way they were is to go back to pre-60's policies. Men holding out for a "quality" girlfriend isn't going to work. You have to take away all the laws and regulations that have empowered women, too.

They are your laws - take care of them. Why in the Iraq place put them an now regret? As a man, don't regret. Move on.

 

[fuzzball]

No. Don't throw the responsibility on the weak. Man has dominated earth for centuries and centuries, it is them to be blamed- take your ****ing own responsibility.

this. most men i see and interact with want never ending playboy mansion style one night stands. most posts i see on here from people seems to be how can i get laid nightly. its as if the guys here have replaced the depressed loner person with the player that is OCD about getting laid all the time. neither one is healthy and neither one progresses society forward.

if guys wanted quality girls they would stop demanding sex on the first night because it is a truly rare and perhaps non-existent girl that is quality and gives up the goods on the first night.

this isnt putting her vagina on a pedestal this just the reality of life. if you give it up too easily it isnt worth much. the same principle is taught on this site concerning nice guys. nice guys give the girl all the time in the world freely and without care. their time in turn loses all its value. the guy then never becomes BF material. it is the exact same principle.

furthermore relationships used to actually last for a long time and this was during days where people didnt have sex until they got married so clearly there must of been something to the "make them wait" theory. not to mention what sex with reckless abandon has done to society. it has created the single mom which has killed families which is creating a generation of kids with 0 morals. so lets not pretend this sex on the first date thing leads anywhere good because thus far it hasnt. never mind the fact that if the girl and the guy have enough balls between them to wait just a minute to do the deed they probably have their brains working properly and arent creatures of mindless passion and no self-control.

Im all for much of what this site teaches and quite frankly is all one fair swoop shattered my perception on reality and made the last of my pride get killed. but its "if she doesnt put on the first date shes not worth your time" mentality is just flat out false.

furthermore as i stated before sex is not even in the top 10 reasons as to why a marriage falls apart which should tell you exactly where its place is in a relationship....its important but not top 10 important. its more like the cherry on top but its not the cake.

 

[BraddH]

Muhaha. It's really funny how this world works.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

No. Don't throw the responsibility on the weak. Man has dominated earth for centuries and centuries, it is them to be blamed- take your ****ing own responsibility.

i agree to some point. if i screw up, i won't blame the woman. i blame myself because i wasn't choosing correctly. but this must be true on the other side as well. women who say "all men are jerks", or generally that is the man's fault because of a failed relationship, are the same kind of idiots, as the men blaming the females. everyone must blame him/herself, because of the bad choice. if something fails, it does because YOU let it fail. if you see your partner giving you red flags, and you still continue to be with him/her or even get into a LTR with that one, it is your fault.

bad experience? learn from it, next, get better, succeed. blaming others is a female's game anyway, and of those WITHOUT QUALITY. so you want quality women? listen to her ranting about an unfair world. if she does, you're gonna have a bad time.

on the other hand, WTF is this "women are weak" and "men are to blame in general" talk? what are you, some kind of old bitter virgin grandma with 20 cats? women are anything but weak, and you cannot blame a demographic group for anything. blaming is legit if it targets the blamer. because he can learn from it. anything else is just bytch talk.

man saying women are weak = misogynist pig (or delusional moron who cannot observe facts)
woman saying women are weak = manipulative scumbag, not worthy of the right to vote.

 

[BraddH]

i agree to some point. if i screw up, i won't blame the woman. i blame myself because i wasn't choosing correctly. but this must be true on the other side as well. women who say "all men are jerks", or generally that is the man's fault because of a failed relationship, are the same kind of idiots, as the men blaming the females. everyone must blame him/herself, because of the bad choice. if something fails, it does because YOU let it fail. if you see your partner giving you red flags, and you still continue to be with him/her or even get into a LTR with that one, it is your fault.

bad experience? learn from it, next, get better, succeed. blaming others is a female's game anyway, and of those WITHOUT QUALITY. so you want quality women? listen to her ranting about an unfair world. if she does, you're gonna have a bad time.

on the other hand, WTF is this "women are weak" and "men are to blame in general" talk? what are you, some kind of old bitter virgin grandma with 20 cats? women are anything but weak, and you cannot blame a demographic group for anything. blaming is legit if it targets the blamer. because he can learn from it. anything else is just bytch talk.

man saying women are weak = misogynist pig (or delusional moron who cannot observe facts)
woman saying women are weak = manipulative scumbag, not worthy of the right to vote.

Now women are no longer weak? It is weird because I thought they were weak and submissive and can't live on this planet without the man's help. This is weird - it is all your own stupid nonsense - and you are contradicting it!

 

[CrimsonPanther]

Now women are no longer weak? It is weird because I thought they were weak and submissive and can't live on this planet without the man's help. This is weird - it is all your own stupid nonsense - and you are contradicting it!

i am not contradicting anything. i never said women are weak.
women can very easily be stupid - like you demonstrate it so beautifully.
women can very easily be dishonest - like you demonstrate it so beautifully.
women can very easily be dramatic - like you demonstrate it so beautifully.
women can very easily be arrogant - like you demonstrate it so beautifully.
also, vengeful, cruel, narcissistic, compliment beggars, etc. if nothing else, just look at the pics on their social networks, their "wise quotes", look at real life ones, look at their achievements in life. even those with shining carriers very rarely give back something original to society, or invent new things. women just don't give a crap about anything but themselves (or sometimes, their children, which is also a form of self-love).

but weak? that is just nonsense. and insinuating something i personally never said, is also a sign of dishonesty.

of course, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS. those are the quality women. it has nothing to do with the number of dates she waits to sleep with you.

women like strong men, yes, but not because they are weak. it is because they are lazy, dependent, and generally like to see others do the dirty work.

should we (the men, not you, braddh) be angry towards women because of this? should we bitter and hateful? not at all. scorpions are venomous, and i can die from them. still, i keep several of them in a terrarium. am i angry at them? not really. just careful. and if i get stung, it is my fault. i assume this risk because i like them.

same with women. i like them, as friends, as sex objects, as cute human beings, etc. but if i refuse to see the risks associated with them, i would be on the same level as you. which is not my lifetime goal.

i really cannot see the point of women coming here on this forum and just plainly trolling and copy/pasting their delusions. we really do not care what you think about us. because in the end of the day, whatever you all preach so loudly, you WILL end on the end of a man's peenis, and enjoying it.

the only people affected by these girly trolls are beginners, who come here to learn knowing nothing.

disclaimer: i am not saying there are no moron, scumbag, dishonest, manipulative men out there. but to filter them out, it is the women's duty. women who end up hurt because of deranged psychos, ask for it themselves. learn to filter.

 

[BraddH]

i am not contradicting anything. i never said women are weak.
women can very easily be stupid - like you demonstrate it so beautifully.
women can very easily be dishonest - like you demonstrate it so beautifully.
women can very easily be dramatic - like you demonstrate it so beautifully.
women can very easily be arrogant - like you demonstrate it so beautifully.
also, vengeful, cruel, narcissistic, compliment beggars, etc. if nothing else, just look at the pics on their social networks, their "wise quotes", look at real life ones, look at their achievements in life. even those with shining carriers very rarely give back something original to society, or invent new things. women just don't give a crap about anything but themselves (or sometimes, their children, which is also a form of self-love).

but weak? that is just nonsense. and insinuating something i personally never said, is also a sign of dishonesty.

of course, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS. those are the quality women. it has nothing to do with the number of dates she waits to sleep with you.

women like strong men, yes, but not because they are weak. it is because they are lazy, dependent, and generally like to see others do the dirty work.

should we (the men, not you, braddh) be angry towards women because of this? should we bitter and hateful? not at all. scorpions are venomous, and i can die from them. still, i keep several of them in a terrarium. am i angry at them? not really. just careful. and if i get stung, it is my fault. i assume this risk because i like them.

same with women. i like them, as friends, as sex objects, as cute human beings, etc. but if i refuse to see the risks associated with them, i would be on the same level as you. which is not my lifetime goal.

i really cannot see the point of women coming here on this forum and just plainly trolling and copy/pasting their delusions. we really do not care what you think about us. because in the end of the day, whatever you all preach so loudly, you WILL end on the end of a man's peenis, and enjoying it.

the only people affected by these girly trolls are beginners, who come here to learn knowing nothing.

disclaimer: i am not saying there are no moron, scumbag, dishonest, manipulative men out there. but to filter them out, it is the women's duty. women who end up hurt because of deranged psychos, ask for it themselves. learn to filter.

So from now on, if you come across someone who says that women are wrak, then remember me, and remember to argue against him and just to prepare you I will tell you something special that you probably haven't known: at least 85 percent, the rate must be 90 percent o the population in this forum will disagree with you. They will say that women are weak and submissive to them. Let me remind you: this whole forum is based on women being weak, submissive and passive.

 

[BraddH]

Female enjoy the penis of the high value men just as women enjoy the pvssy of the high value women which means hot babe. And in fact a chick who is not higher value than the man himself as far as passive is concerned, he will never find her attractive. So all the wonen that you are attracted to are higher value than you. Who would be attracted to lower values? You will run away from them, take for example a fattie.