The Hot Guy Myth

[TDH]

I think more is expected out of a HG or even a moderately handsome guy

 

[jhonny9546]

The hot guy would have to have more going for him than just his looks in order to really make a connection with her. You have to remember that a woman is most attracted to a man that connects with her on an emotional level. The HG and the NSHG both have to have a great seduction game. So is the myth true? Not Really. When all is said and done it’s not really all about the looks. The man who will get the most women is the one who is persistent and has the tightest game.

I can confirm this is so real.
There is an ugly men I know that after 10 min about He enters the room, every girl is laughing at everything He is saying, even the worse quote. Women would laugh and also validate him saying this such as "You have chosen a wrong career path: You should be a comedian". Btw, one thing I've noticed is that He rarely do big laugh or normal laughing.
What is the real psicology about this? This guy is not so actractive, but it also may could be that he is ugly to womens eyes.
Does he have some sort of skill that allow a sort of HALO effect on him?
You won't trust me if I say that women will need to pee when they are with him because can't stop laughing?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Good looking guys get more opportunities with good looking women, period.

Sure, if you are some weirdo, socially inept person it might not help because the women will be immediately turned off once they start talking to you, but as long as you are a decent conversationalist, and know how to be a little flirty and sexual, you will have far more doors open without having to put much effort in than average looking dudes.

If you don't believe that, you are delusional.

Not saying that average guys can't do well, it's about how much EFFORT they have to put in. And it's far more than good looking guys because the women automatically start with them and then only once they fail do they get to average guys.

 

[jhonny9546]

If you have to entertain women instead of them entertaining you, you're still doing something wrong.

In this case, is this men acting as entretainer?

.and know how to be a little flirty and sexual, you will have far more doors open without having to put much effort in than average looking dudes.

I am honest and I wanted to say that "flirty and sexual" is not one of my skills.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

In this case, is this men acting as entretainer?


I am honest and I wanted to say that "flirty and sexual" is not one of my skills.

Then it needs to become one. Women will almost always respond well to flirty and sexual from guys they find hot. It's when they find guys "meh" that you hear these stories about being hit on and being disgusted by it.

They aren't disgusted by what is being said, rather by WHO is saying it.

Being good looking means half the time THEY will do the work for you and hit on you. At that point you simply need to not screw it up

 

[SW15]

Rule #1: Be good looking. Don't be bad looking. The seduction game is much easier when you are good looking. @BPH has experienced this.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Let’s see:
1. Height doesn’t matter.
2. Looks don’t matter.
3. Status doesn’t matter.
4. Pedigree doesn’t matter.
5. Income (often linked with status) doesn’t matter.

Supposedly it’s ultimately a man’s behavior and attitude that count, as if women have no idea about what they’re attracted to. I have read this three times so far in other threads.

All these things that typically attract women don’t matter, and if a man exploits one of these characteristics, he supposedly is deficient in some other area, as if that matters (eg, He’s using his money because his personality stinks.)

Did I miss anything? Anything else that is a myth?

 

[Bokanovsky]

Did I miss anything? Anything else that is a myth?

The only thing that you missed is the fact that this thread is from 2013

If you dig through the ancient threads, you will find a lot of outdated and disproven advice: looks don't matter, game trumps everything, always call and never text, wait at least seven days to contact a girl after the first date, etc.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I mean no disrespect to OP, but this is cope.
If you are a HG, you will get offered sex easily.
Your wealth & status are irrelevant.

 

[SW15]

If you are a HG, you will get offered sex easily.

I agree. Looks are the #1 element of seduction.

Let’s see:
1. Height doesn’t matter.
2. Looks don’t matter.
3. Status doesn’t matter.
4. Pedigree doesn’t matter.
5. Income (often linked with status) doesn’t matter.

Supposedly it’s ultimately a man’s behavior and attitude that count,

Game is some combination of looks, money, status, and personality. Looks are #1 when women evaluate men. Men 35+ can get somewhat more of a boost on money and status. Personality attributes are the least important in the early stages. They become more relevant over time but they still trail the other factors for attention and retention of women.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I agree. Looks are the #1 element of seduction.



Game is some combination of looks, money, status, and personality. Looks are #1 when women evaluate men. Men 35+ can get somewhat more of a boost on money and status. Personality attributes are the least important in the early stages. They become more relevant over time but they still trail the other factors for attention and retention of women.

Then I’m mistaken because when I think “game,” I think jestermaxxing.

From my observation and experience, POWER trumps all other factors in attractiveness.

 

[SW15]

Then I’m mistaken because when I think “game,” I think jestermaxxing.

Jestermaxxing is not game. Jestermaxxing is a term that comes from the incel community about peacocking and other personality attributes used to attract women. I don't think that's a good term to use.

In general, personality attributes matter the least with seduction.

One of my friends is a 6'4" male that is now married. Before getting married, he was actively seducing. He put up a triple digit notch count with verbal game that was average at best. Looks and status (former NCAA athlete) carried him.

 

[BPH]

Rule #1: Be good looking. Don't be bad looking. The seduction game is much easier when you are good looking. @BPH has experienced this.

God dammit, now that you tagged me I have to read the OP...

EDIT: Nvm this post is too long and over 10 years old, who dug this up?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

God dammit, now that you tagged me I have to read the OP...

EDIT: Nvm this post is too long and over 10 years old, who dug this up?

Necroposting.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Now this is a thread

 

[jhonny9546]

Acting like a comedian, yes.
Sure, he gets women to laugh (whether that is with him or at him), but how many of them want to sleep with him?

Well... I do not know that, but If women are actracted by him laughing at everything he says, I think 80% of them would

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Christ here we go

Yes if you are a 6 or below don't even bother

If you're hot don't even try, just stand in a corner and be timid

 

[Manure Spherian]

Then I’m mistaken because when I think “game,” I think jestermaxxing.

From my observation and experience, POWER trumps all other factors in attractiveness.

Example. It such a character were a real-life person he would have more women than he would know what to do with. Not a “hot guy”. No gymmaxxing, no shaving, no hair procedures required. But he would be able to MOG nearly all men.

 

[The Duke]

You don't know something matters until you posess that quality.

When I first started dating girls, it was a struggle. My 1st date to 2nd date conversion rate was probably 50%. Why? Because my seduction skills, flirting skills, socializing skills, and connecting with women skills were lacking. All those areas that are a part of personality weren't where they needed to be. Once I improved in those areas, I became more successful.

Now days I'm older. I'm in better shape than when I was younger, but my skin is showing some age and I'm uglier than I used to be. Yet dating has never been easier than it is now. My 1st date to 2nd date conversion rate these days is 95%.

So you are going to tell me that Looks is all that matters? If your personality is lacking, thats probably a true statement from your perspective. I've never been that guy that could just stand there and rely on his looks and girls approach on a regular basis. It happens but not often.

At the end of the day it all matters. Women are attracted by a wide array of things and AMEN for that.

Like him or not, there is one guy on this forum that has a lot of personality, doesn't fear what people think, confident, and lives life on his terms. All of those traits women find attractive. Its the guy with the eye patch and a cat on his shoulder. ;-) His looks arent carrying the day for him, its all about his attitude and personality. He gets what he wants out of life. Women get turned on by men like that. Be BOLD.

 

[Manure Spherian]

You don't know something matters until you posess that quality.

When I first started dating girls, it was a struggle. My 1st date to 2nd date conversion rate was probably 50%. Why? Because my seduction skills, flirting skills, socializing skills, and connecting with women skills were lacking. All those areas that are apart of personality weren't where they needed to be. Once I improved in those areas, I became more successful.

Now days I'm older. I'm in better shape than when I was younger, but my skin is showing some age and I'm uglier than I used to be. Yet dating has never been easier than it is now. My 1st date to 2nd date conversion rate these days is 95%.

So you are going to tell me that Looks is all that matters? If your personality is lacking, thats probably a true statement from your perspective. I've never been that guy that could just stand there and rely on his looks and girls approach on a regular basis. It happens but not often.

At the end of the day it all matters. Women are attracted by a wide array of things and AMEN for that.

Like him or not, there is one guy on this forum that has a lot of personality, doesn't fear what people think, confident, and lives life on his terms. All of those traits women find attractive. Its the guy with the eye patch and a cat on his shoulder. ;-) His looks arent carrying the day for him, its all about his attitude and personality. He gets what he wants out of life. Women get turned on by men like that. Be BOLD.

Very good post!

I think when people say certain things don’t matter or some things are of such importance is because with the former, they don’t have those things, and with the latter, they do have those things.

For example, a surgeon who has his pick of the litter just going to work everyday (no clubbing or traveling required) is just a nerd who women like for his money. And a chubby guy with a woman is SUPPOSEDLY getting cheated on because muscularity is so important (it could not possibly be he has something else going on), some muscled guys will say.

Ask an outlaw biker, a drug dealer, a mafiosi, a CEO, or a surgeon if status doesn’t matter. Ask a rich boy if his lineage doesn’t matter. Ask a pretty boy if looks don’t matter. Lol. Who people kidding when they such doesn’t matter. And as I said, I’ve read that those who exploit such characteristics could be “making up” for what they don’t have (eg, game, behavior, whatever). Meanwhile the end result for such different people is the same: attracting women.