The Girl: Exclusivity = SEX

[CF9]

I kinda hesitate entering the fray here, I'm new to this site (& TBH, only reason I registered was to give backbreaker props in his "Passing on some of my newforund wisdom" thread), so I know I've got plenty to learn. With that said, I think there is at least the possibility of SOME women deviating from the norm.

I think there are some high-quality women who do resist temptation, even when it comes to a guy to whom they are sincerely attracted. Haven't you guys EVER come across a woman who will not give it up until they're married? My best friend from college married such a girl, and he was a player (still could pick up women if he wanted to). He plowed every chick in sight, then he met what he considered to be his one true LTR... She came from a religious family; there was no doubt (well, except for the no sex part) that she was attracted to him. Maybe it means he was AFC b/c he stayed w/ her & didn't hit it until his wedding night, I don't know. I don't think so, b/c he's got as much game as anyone I've ever met, and he displays all the characteristics of a true Don Juan. I can anticipate the counter-arguments...

Just wanted to throw that out there for discussion...

 

[backbreaker]

Haven't you guys EVER come across a woman who will not give it up until they're married?

okay.. you are using a situtation that is unique. that's religious based. this isn't. this is attraction based.

she isn't waiting until they are married.. she is waiting until he promises that he is the only woman he's ****ing.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Troops,


This is Victory Unlimited...BACK! ...And reporting in for "advice" duty.lol

I think that ONE thing that has been missing in this discussion is the primary question behind the original poster's concerns. HIS main concern seems to be NOT whether or not the woman is worth exclusitivity or not, but rather,

"How does a man AGREE to be in an LTR that he ACTUALLY wants anyway, WITHOUT appearing to be giving in to a woman's ulitmatum?????"

But somehow, this conversation has seemed to devolve into attacking the character of the chick, attacking the DJ-ness of Dash Riprock, and the EASY accusations of a guy putting a babe on a pedestal.

And now, while these may ALL be valid points of interest, THIS is actually not what Dash has requested in the body of his subsequent emails. Judging from his posts, he seems to have NO DOUBTS that this chick is sexually attracted to him-----so it seems that barrier is one of personal morality or ethics.

So I'm with Azanon and LovelyLady on this one. Let's just assume FOR AT LEAST A MOMENT, that Dash has read this chick correctly, shall we?

So Dash, listen to me, soldier. This is really NOT that big a deal. So you want to know how you AGREE to be in an LTR that you ACTUALLY "want" anyway?

Here's the answer:

Take the power back from her by changing the mindframe of the whole exclusitivity subject. So far, it would appear that SHE has been the one that has been "qualifying" YOU.

So what you do here, soldier is REVERSE IT. If it is not already too late by the time you read this post, simply date her and DJ her as you usually do. And when she brings up the question of exclusitivity AGAIN (and she WILL...and hopefully in a scenario where you have her in various stages of UNdress), simply STOP the seduction proceess SUDDENLY----and say something to her like THIS:

"You know _____, to be honest, I had been thinking about exclusivity a little BEFORE you brought it up that night, but I didn't think you were READY to do what it takes for a woman to be in an exclusive relationship with me."

(At THIS point is where you have taken the frame AWAY from her, kicked that Queen-sized pedestal out from under her, and ASSUMED the position of "The King".)

Then you continue on with her in a very serious, and firm tone by saying something like THIS to her:

"You see, my life is full enough already, and I have MANY things I have accomplished AND am still in the process of accomplishing. So whenever I meet a woman that I feel MIGHT be worth my limited time and undivided attention, I expect certain things from her...

She has to demonstrate that she is ______. She has to have _____. She has to show me she's ________. And she has to convince me by what she says AND by what she does that she is consistently ________.

Now I KNOW that that is a lot to ask from the average woman, because so far, not many women I've met have met my requirements. But I'm a pretty DIRECT type of guy, and I DON'T apologize for wanting what I want, and needing what I need from a woman in an exclusive relationship.

Now, what I need to know is, are you READY to give me the things that I need? Are you sure you're ABLE to do this? Are you sure you WANT to do this? Because, if NOT..."

Yes soldier, THEN you just let your voice trail off, EXACTLY as I have just written.

What you have done in THIS battle-tested scenario is TOTALLY assumed the role of the much prized KING, and NOW "she" is in a position where she has to qualify herself to YOU.

And if you do this right, she will look at you as NOT ONLY a much prized KING, but she will look at you as fukking Ceasar-----sitting on his throne at the Roman colliseum with his hand extended in judgement, with the crowd around him staring in hushed silence, waiting for you give HER either thumbs up, or THUMBS DOWN-----based on how well she pleases "YOU" with the answers to your questions!

In effect, what you are doing in THIS theater of war is treating an exclusive relationship like A HOSTAGE, and YOU are the TERRORIST. And unless "she" gives in to YOUR demands...you'll terminate her "hopes" of exclusivity WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

So if you wanna know how to "covertly" agree to an LTR that you already wanted in the first place, but WITHOUT looking like a pusssy-------THAT, soldier, is how THE FUKK you do it!



March on.

 

[Max Power]

Let's just assume FOR AT LEAST A MOMENT, that Dash has read this chick correctly, shall we?
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Dash's ability to read this chick has not been that good. Given his attack on Backbreaker -- who is among the most knowledgeable and honest of DJs who regularly post, II won't give him the benefit of the doubt.

I will quote him:

We're doing an activity tonight for date # 2, then maybe some drinks, then maybe to my house for a night cap and some serious making out. I'm 80% sure could do her tonight.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=126051

I also used this as an opinion opener tonight with six different sets and all of them said this chick has some kind of hidden agenda and her being 31 makes it less understandable, if not inexplicable. I was actually surprised. I thought all the chicks would support the chick. Only one said she could understand the chick doing this but she thought it was bull****. Coincidentally, this was the only chick that I asked that was not an HB 8plus. Now here's an important question Dash, how much money have you spent on this chick so far and have you created the impression that you are a successful business or financial person? Have you? Be honest. If you have you're ****ed. I talked to one chick, who actually did this exact same thing to an older dude.

 

[Holland]

I agree with backbreaker and Max once again.

Victory's suggestion on what to do is great as well.

You could also say something like:
Why are you talking about sex already? We're just getting to know each other. Than lay off ALL physical advances for a couple hours. If she doesn't care, she's NOT attracted. And you are misinterpreting her signs of low interest as being (a contributing factor to) high quality.
If she does respond and starts making advances (after which you will tease her a bit) you were right about the fact she is attracted. I would suggest you go on to keep following the mating sequence, ignore her BS and turn it around into DHV's and fuuck her anyway. And then get into a relationship.

Good luck.

 

[Sir Juanalot]

I agree with the above posts about reframing it, something along the lines of

"I can't agree to exclusivity when i have no idea if we are sexually compatible, and i wouldn't want to agree to something so serious if i found out we weren't"