The game has changed.

[mrRuckus]

Why does it even matter if she is a virgin? What's the difference? I mean 20 dudes might be excessive but if she's sitting at 3 or 4 what is the big deal?

I don't care not because i'm "afraid to be alone" but because i don't see what the difference is. Having sex a few times makes a female a wh0re? If anything my attitude is "good they had bad sex a few times and now they reach me and can get blown away."

I love having my ex still pining for my sex and whining that i ruined it for everyone else. I want my future wife thinking she can't get better because she has something to compare it to.

 

[d9930380]

The girls you are dating are ALL very young. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it but......

1)Young girls use guys to buy them **** or pay for them when they're out. They aren't looking for sex, just the date part of it and the experience of being out with an older guy who is more mature. Daddy's little girl.

2)You might not find these girls interesting or fun, just stupid and immature. This is going to effect your mood and therefore how you behave with them and if they aren't having fun then you aren't getting sex.

Solution... Move up to 25 year olds.

BTW - Kids have always enjoyed hanging in large groups at parties, it's a sign that they aren't willing to commit, they don't want someone in their lives just someone to kiss and screw at the weekends.

 

[thirtyplus]

Women have ONLINE PAGES. Women don't go to clubs to look to GET LAID...no, no, no!! Women go to clubs to be SEEN. They go to clubs to LET LOOSE.

Women aren't looking to HOOK UP in the club. At all!!!

Holy **** man. lol. What part of the country are you in? What on earth have you seen that makes you believe this?

 

[thirtyplus]

DJF is right on! You should take advantage of all means to meet women. The internet is the easiest;

okay, seriously, WHAT THE ****.

Please post pictures (faces redacted) of all the hot chicks you have banged off the internet as well as corroborating field reports.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Holy **** man. lol. What part of the country are you in? What on earth have you seen that makes you believe this?

John is absolutely correctamundo when speaking of the majority!

Thirtyplus, I am a vampire and am invisible to mirrors and lenses - so I am in no pictures - there is always a blank space in my stead!

 

[Last Man Standing]

DJF I guarantee you I will be married by then.

Now I can almost guarantee I will be married within 5 years.

I am open to it but not actively seeking to get married. LY, be careful, now that you are seeking marriage youll start making allowances just to meet your time limit!

Set your parameters and only marry the wpman who fits them!

 

[ER!C L!VE]

I didn't read all the other posts.. woulda taken me an hour.. so, here's my take..

Even though I am only 30 I feel that due to MYSPACE, Text messaging and the modern ways of communication has changed the game greatly. Girls just don't enjoy traditional dating has much, would rather hang out in groups. The 22 year old girl of today is different than the 22 year old girl of 4 years ago. MY SPACE HAS CHANGED THE GAME

It's changed alot of things. You know what I did when I noticed it a few years ago? I looked at all the guys who had girls on their pages and emailed those guys. I chatted with them about gaming girls. I found out from the winners how they were succeeding at myspace.

As far as the younger girls...I like em 18-19. I've found that the younger ones don't give a shyt about dating, hanging out, or chatting with you at great lengths about anything. They don't want you to meet their friends either.

Myspace gives girls the anonymity they want to bang older dudes -- no friends of theirs can find out, no judgements, etc. They may tell their friends about you, but it'll be, "Yea.. I banged this HOT real estate gazzillionaire older guy once.." IMO, they just want the 'I banged an older guy' notch on their bedpost.

When meeting up with a much younger girl for the first time, take her to your place to 'watch a movie'. Keep conversations positive, fun, playful and light. When you're 15 min into the movie, lean over, kiss and bang. These girls know they don't have anything in common with you. So, they're most likely at your place just to fcuk. After you've banged a younger girl, if you don't hear from her again, don't be surprised. Don't go calling her cell phone 100x, emailing her 100x or stalking her at work. You were just a notch. :cheer:

 

[Abbott]

So let's see...so my refusal to use any form of communication apart from letters and phone calls is bad?

Regardless, it's not going to change my position. I don't know about the rest of you, but I won't even use E-mail for that. I feel that you shouldn't need a computer to talk to people you meet in real life. While I do have a mobile phone, I also have text message block so people can't send me any. I want them to call me. Plus, who actually uses the text message, apart from pre-teen girls, since they probably can't use mobile phones in class?

My parents didn't need a computer to meet and eventually get married. Why should I?

 

[My Name is Nobody]

Yes. The game has changed.

For the better!

I have done cold approaches till my balls were blue, and I have gotten more p/ssy from myspace and dating sites then ALL of my cold approaches combined.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Why does it even matter if she is a virgin? What's the difference? I mean 20 dudes might be excessive but if she's sitting at 3 or 4 what is the big deal?

I don't care not because i'm "afraid to be alone" but because i don't see what the difference is. Having sex a few times makes a female a wh0re? If anything my attitude is "good they had bad sex a few times and now they reach me and can get blown away."

I love having my ex still pining for my sex and whining that i ruined it for everyone else. I want my future wife thinking she can't get better because she has something to compare it to.

This is very faulty thinking!! How do you know she had 3 or 4 - do you really think a woman who wants to marry you is going to tell you the truth?? NO!! Can you verify this?? NO!!!

Do you really believe your penis is better than someone elses? NO! No such thing as a better penis! If a girl wanted a better penis then why would she ever get married - why shouldn't she just be single and get ALL the better penises?

Women don't get married because they want the best penis - they are looking for a "man" for company and security! Can your penis provide them comfort and security? NO! Penises were NOT made for that! Can your penis put food on the table?

Your penis is not special - you are merely the next penis in line!

Wake up - The Matrix has you!

My parents didn't need a computer to meet and eventually get married. Why should I?

You are missing the point - it is all about availability and probability! Is there greater availability and probability to meet a girl in a small town of 5,000 or 5,000,000 - thus the internet is a viable option!

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Why does it even matter if she is a virgin? What's the difference? I mean 20 dudes might be excessive but if she's sitting at 3 or 4 what is the big deal?

Because of the bond sex is suppose to provide the two people engaged in it. You have sex with more people and it becomes easier to detach yourself from the lastest fu.ck stick you had a fling with. It won't hurt as much.

If she's a virgin, she'll stick around through many difficulties...if that's what you want.

 

[PRMoon]

Because of the bond sex is suppose to provide the two people engaged in it. You have sex with more people and it becomes easier to detach yourself from the lastest fu.ck stick you had a fling with. It won't hurt as much.

If she's a virgin, she'll stick around through many difficulties...if that's what you want.

Or she'll think that it was great, watch desprate house wives and have an affair.

Relationships are a craps shoot anyway you look at it, virgin or not. You're going to be taking a gamble no matter who you decide to settle down with. Though it's important to concider the past of a woman, you must also concider the present state of both of your existances and your compatabilites in order to make the best choice for your collective future. People change for the better and for the worse and alot of that has to do with the interactons of the mate who spends the most time with them. If you marry a virgin and treat her like sh*t, then don't be suprised when she runs away with someone else. conversely if you marry a person with a promiscuous past and you treat her like your queen and she doesn't want you to be out of her sight, even for a monment, then you've made an effectively good choice.

There's too much labeling here and lack of human/societal understanding flying around this site and it's really quite sad.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

I do not use myspace, email, or messengers. Most people in their 20s do not rely on online communication. Lacking "Myspace" is not going to turn you into a social pariah; in fact, while the nerds are spending hours polishing their Myspace profile, you'll be actually in the field.

Of course I don't know what the next generation will be like. Hell they might stop dating and have sex with realistic robot dolls. But hey, I'm not part of that generation.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

If you marry a virgin and treat her like sh*t, then don't be suprised when she runs away with someone else. conversely if you marry a person with a promiscuous past and you treat her like your queen and she doesn't want you to be out of her sight, even for a monment, then you've made an effectively good choice.

There's too much labeling here and lack of human/societal understanding flying around this site and it's really quite sad.

I'll quote myself again.

You have sex with more people and it becomes easier to detach yourself from the lastest fu.ck stick you had a fling with. It won't hurt as much.

I'm not factoring in bad relationships and incompatablilty, Mr. Moon so that my last statement works in my favor. Isn't that how any good relationship last anyways? But like I said, if a woman feels she's made a wrong choice by breaking up with you or vice versa, you'll easily squash that doubt by ****ing another person. That's the ultimate severer of bonds. Stick yourself into another person and you'll forget all about your ex. Isn't that what we all say around here anyways to get over an ex? Sex if powerful and it will determine how we feel about our self worth at times. Many people go through this. "Dude I just had sex with another chick and I feel GREAT! I don't even remember what's her face anymore". Alot o' guys base the price of their self being on sex. In my opinion...I think it's wrong.

I can understand if things don't work out, but sometimes people sabottage relationships out of fear and irrationality. People are influenced by friends and family and...


Jesus, I'm going off on a tangent so I'll stop.

 

[PRMoon]

I'll quote myself again.

You have sex with more people and it becomes easier to detach yourself from the lastest fu.ck stick you had a fling with. It won't hurt as much.

I'm not factoring in bad relationships and incompatablilty, Mr. Moon so that my last statement works in my favor. Isn't that how any good relationship last anyways? But like I said, if a woman feels she's made a wrong choice by breaking up with you or vice versa, you'll easily squash that doubt by ****ing another person. That's the ultimate severer of bonds. Stick yourself into another person and you'll forget all about your ex. Isn't that what we all say around here anyways to get over an ex? Sex if powerful and it will determine how we feel about our self worth at times. Many people go through this. "Dude I just had sex with another chick and I feel GREAT! I don't even remember what's her face anymore". Alot o' guys base the price of their self being on sex. In my opinion...I think it's wrong.

I can understand if things don't work out, but sometimes people sabottage relationships out of fear and irrationality. People are influenced by friends and family and...


Jesus, I'm going off on a tangent so I'll stop.

Please don't call me Mr. Moon. That's my father and he's still my sovern.

Look I wasn't saying that you're wrong, I'm just stating that there are many factors besides sex that can be equally detrimental to future relationships for anyone. I do think however that too much emphisis is placed on sex around here. I know this is a site of males and just about everyone here is trying to get laid but really getting laid is easy and it's everything else that we do that we should be putting more emphisis on.

I guess that goes towards your point as well. As long as you're pretty much saying "Get over this virgins are better" sh*t then we're on the same page.

Well I'm off to Moon bar to go game some chics. Funny how I move to Vegas and they already have a bar named after me! I'm so honored

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Please don't call me Mr. Moon. That's my father and he's still my sovern.

Look I wasn't saying that you're wrong, I'm just stating that there are many factors besides sex that can be equally detrimental to future relationships for anyone.

I know, and I purposely took those factors out of the equasion.

I do think however that too much emphisis is placed on sex around here. I know this is a site of males and just about everyone here is trying to get laid but really getting laid is easy and it's everything else that we do that we should be putting more emphisis on.

Abosolutely no argument there, Moon Jr. Too much emphasis is placed on sex not just here but out on the field also. Many women use sex to control, men scrounge for sex to feel masculine. Sometimes when there is a problem with sex, people won't have a hard time squashing something precious (say a good emotional, mental relationship) to find a replacement for good emotional and mental relations. Alot of these ideas are totally backwards.

My mistake was placing too much empahsis on sex at times in my relationship and that caused a certain rift between us. There were other problems too, don't get me wrong, but to me personally that was a big one when it shouldn't have been. Many many people do this.

I guess that goes towards your point as well. As long as you're pretty much saying "Get over this virgins are better" sh*t then we're on the same page.

Certain qualities in a virgin are better. =) Nobody's perfect though, right?

 

[DJF or John]

Well I think the emphasis should be placed on sex first.

Notice I said first.

Many guys focus on relationships first, and put all of their emphasis there.

But you can't put the cart before the horse. You can't obtain a real, geninune, GREAT WOMAN, until you have become a geninune true natural man.

You have to meet many women, before you can really KNOW WOMEN.

You have to be rejected many times before you can really know what ACCEPTANCE feels like.

There's only so much that can be said here, you guys need to just EXPERIENCE.

Why should the emphasis be on sex? Because that puts the focus on WOMEN, which means, you will play the field.

Majority of women today are NOT relationship material, and you can really only know when a girl is a great partner for YOU, but just meeting and goong through the field.

But analyzing this will not make it better. Embrace your sexuality, and just go.

NOW.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Well I think the emphasis should be placed on sex first.

Notice I said first.

Many guys focus on relationships first, and put all of their emphasis there.

But you can't put the cart before the horse. You can't obtain a real, geninune, GREAT WOMAN, until you have become a geninune true natural man.

You have to meet many women, before you can really KNOW WOMEN.

You have to be rejected many times before you can really know what ACCEPTANCE feels like.

There's only so much that can be said here, you guys need to just EXPERIENCE.

Why should the emphasis be on sex? Because that puts the focus on WOMEN, which means, you will play the field.

Majority of women today are NOT relationship material, and you can really only know when a girl is a great partner for YOU, but just meeting and goong through the field.

But analyzing this will not make it better. Embrace your sexuality, and just go.

NOW.

Yes yes be sexual sexual SEXUAL you've been spouting the same mantra for weeks now. We all know that for crying out loud. That's not the part that irritates me though. The part that irritates me is you saying;

Many guys focus on relationships first, and put all of their emphasis there.

But you can't put the cart before the horse.

WHAT?! Do you know how many relationships I've seen with my own two beady little eyes fail with this logic? I've seen people fu.ck and ask for numbers later...they don't LAST! Most likely you're not going to find a quality woman who spreads her legs for you in the first week or the first day! WHY?! Because of that "sex first!" logic! Don't tell me you acutally believe that you'll find a wife by placing fu.cking first; masturbating inside of a woman. You do that, you look at only one aspect of her sexuality and place primary importance on that...and you're screwed! I've seen it. I have never ever EVER seen the former.

Majority of women today are NOT relationship material, and you can really only know when a girl is a great partner for YOU, but just meeting and goong through the field.

This...this is just...Wow. I remember you going off from this saying pretty much that since most women aren't relationship material let's switch our game up the fit THEIR needs and lifestyle.

No. I will not compromise my morals, integrity and what I hold to be dear in a relationship to a "modern woman" with screwed up ideas. I have my standards and I will not follow a lost woman who will end up unhappy by the time she's 40.

Guys, if you're looking for a great relationship don't settle for what SHE thinks the standard should be! You make the rules! Stand by what's true to you. Don't ever follow a lost woman. Hell I wouldn't suggest following a woman period.

 

[KoalaKing]

So you are saying that a guy is better off getting p!ssed every day than he is working out at the gym and making money.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

HUH?