I know one couple where clearly the wife rules (she is like barely a girl, 60% female, 40% male, and the man (40/60 male) is taking it up the butt. What is interesting is that, yes the wife is clearly *accomustomed* taking the lead all the time, but she *resents* it. Many times, she just blurts out her discomfort at her man's passiveness.radiodude said:So, since a naturally masculine/feminine woman/man desires the more masculine role, for example, there isn't any disatisfaction on her or his part. It's when HE or SHE doesn't live up to HIS or HER natural needs in the balancing act that things get rough forcing the other person to compensate.
I guess I don't entirely agree with this premise in that yes I know men and women have different traits, people are unique, etc. But I still hold a view that women are naturally more submissive, whether they show it or not in their personality and in fact want a man who will out-dominate them.
So, I think it's dangerous to say that if things seem natural, meaning she naturally takes control and he doesn't, that it's okay and everyones happy.
It's actually very interesting you mention this because I know a bit about buddhism. The goal of buddhism is to escape the Maya, to escape sexuality. Buddhism views sexuality as evil. Why? What is sexuality? Sexuality is the differences between sexes, what makes a man a man, and what makes a girl a girl. And if you know anything about Buddhism, it is all about getting rid of duality (differences). This is why buddhism advocates the *killing* of the ego.jeffthechef said:completely disagree...
Your ego has basically taken over your life. And I've read articles in the dj Bible about killing the ego as is also preached in Buddhism. We are all the same. You are not special. You are not different.
That's a great question and let me preface this by saying it's an art, not a science.Jitterbug said:I'm curious, how exactly do you measure or estimate something like 70%M, 30%F?
Part of this is in your interests, what you like.Jitterbug said:I'm curious, how exactly do you measure or estimate something like 70%M, 30%F?
Here is a great example of conventional 'feminine' behavior overlaid on a strong masculine base .zekko said:Part of this is in your interests, what you like.
Football, boxing, beer, dogs, hot rods, stuff like that = masculine.
Dancing, crocheting, cats, shopping, things of that ilk = feminine.
It's okay, even desirable, to have some feminine interests, but you are expected to have more masculine interests or you may come off as a prissy boy.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Of course. I have experienced this myself - being the Alpha of one group and being Beta in another group.02hero said:Surely all of this alpha male bs is situational?
You could be the alpha of a group sitting in a bar with some friends. Take that alpha out of his comfort zone. For an extreme example, let's say drop him into a war zone, he could then become an instant beta.
You could be the feminine beta guy, but if the rest of the group are all pussies too, the beta could be the alpha of the group. The situation plays a large part in all of these alpha/beta shenanigans. I'm not entirely convinced by it all.
You seem to be very *attached* to my posts.jeffthechef said:and yes i know a lot more about buddhism..not "just a bit"
And basically you're doing the opposite of what it's advising...you never embrace the ego...it leads you to the path of attachment...
AND THANKS FOR DODGING THE REST OF MY POST...i love how you only chose the part you THOUGHT you could attack
Basically, your post sounds like a bunch of unnecessary technique bull****. I'll give you some Bruce Lee..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDW6vkuqGLg
Stop making all these damn fingers...you're analyzing the hell out of the situation..
Well...If your post helps someone here, great.
Not to mention that in the history of mankind, nearly everything was invented by men. Who are the leading artists and musicians in any field you can think of? Mostly men.fuzzx said:Being creative is feminine? Since when?
HALO 3 and FALLOUT 3 are built from creativity and made by men. If a woman made HALO the game would be about a boredline gay shopaholic who gives aliens space makeovers, plays with puppies and eats chocolate...
How is that feminine when every music genre was created by men?radiodude said:15) Music-Either/Often Feminine?
Your interests are not what makes you masculine per se.radiodude said:Here's my interests, just cause I'm curious about mine-
1)Computers- Masculine
2)radio (the business, technical stuff)-Masculine
3)Disk Golf-Masculine
4)Hiking-exploring- Masculine
5)Business development (making money)-Masculine
6)Politics-Masculine
7)Food (not cooking it, just eating) Masculine
8)Gaming-Masculine
9)Lawn care, landscaping-Masculine
10)I'd love to get into hunting, but have only done it once.-Masculine
11)Somewhat into soccer-Masculine
12)I like nice cars and keeping a car in good shape but I don't really enjoy
them as a hobby. -Masculine
13) Beer-Masculine
14) History/War-Masculine
15) Music-Either/Often Feminine?
16) Maps
17) Shopping for stuff I like, electronics, toys, etc.(I don't like traditional
shopping)-Masculine
18) Being creative- Feminine
19) Guns are cool, even though I don't own alot.
I'm not really into football, basketball, baseball.
I guess I'm not your traditional hyper masculine 'dude' but at the same time I don't really enjoy feminine things.
I came up with 89% Masculine, 11% Feminine.
However, does this involve social personality traits too? Obviously here I only did interests.
Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Soccer ?radiodude said:Here's my interests, just cause I'm curious about mine-
11)Somewhat into soccer-Masculine
You're a rugby guy eh, Uncle Jophil? Rugby is just about the most homoerotic sports in the world - and AFL a close second. A bunch of guys groping & rolling around with each other on the field, butt-fingering each other, showering together afterwards and having group sex - 12 guys to 1 girl. Seriously!jophil28 said:Soccer ?
A doubtful inclusion. You ever hear that Beckman guy talk ?.
Nah, I'm indifferent to football. Bunch of meatheads with alcohol problems and too much money.Jitterbug said:You're a rugby guy eh, Uncle Jophil? Rugby is just about the most homoerotic sports in the world - and AFL a close second. A bunch of guys groping & rolling around with each other on the field, butt-fingering each other, showering together afterwards and having group sex - 12 guys to 1 girl. Seriously!
At least soccer players don't grope each other and they like women.
how does attacking make me attached?..and how does it make me serious? Are you simply a *****?Trader said:You seem to be very *attached* to my posts.
No one is *attacking* anything - why so serious?
You really need to improve your reading comprehension skills. I said that if you are trying to seek spiritual development (i.e. being a monk) then you need to kill your ego and escape the Maya (sexuality).
I have no such desires and thus I will embrace my sexuality and my ego.
I do not need to address the rest of your post, because the main issue of contention is: should one embrace the ego or not. That is the key point of debate.
Smh at the theories that go out on this board. This entire "what's masculine"/"what's not" is really dumb to me lol and doesn't really reflect reality.Trader says,
So 3 years ago - I finally told myself: 'Enough is enough. I want the really feminine girls - those are the ones I want. Well then I must become masculine. And how do I do that?'
Trader, again, the answer to this is in the EYES of the beholder. Some people TODAY say that a guy that paints his nails, is more metro-sexual, and more woman-acting is MASCULINE because he also has CONFIDENCE, others will say he's not, DEPENDS on who you ask. I can tell you though, depending on where that guy is, he can and does get laid all over the place.Trader says,
What is masculinity exactly?
Your definition of masculinity is YOUR definition and NOT a universal rule. To take it further, I just think you are keyboard jockeying and posting crap from Pook posts that have no relevance to anything.Trader says,
Individuality is the main component of masculinity. Individuality is what gets you the feminine girls.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.