The food is making us fat in the USA

[EyeBRollin]

Yeh I agree. Americans live sedentary lifestyles but the food is a big part of the obesity problem.

The simplest explanation is Americans drink and eat too much sugar and fat.

 

[Bible_Belt]

A friend just started delivering for door dash. He said most of his deliveries are fast food like taco bell, delivered into the housing projects of neighboring small towns. So the poorest people buy the sh1ttiest food and pay the most for it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

How many calories do these fillers have and do they have to be reported on the nutrition label?

Not sure. The bigger issue is the inflammation and other incendiary effects they cause in the body over time

 

[RickTheToad]

Okay I may have to try this. What brand of beef jerky do you use?

I make my own. Happy to post the recipes. I use 2 lbs of grass fed beef and a dehydrator. The GF is also hooked.

NESCO FD-75A Snackmaster Pro Food Dehydrator, For Snacks, Fruit, Beef Jerky, Gray

Nesco Jumbo Works Beef Jerky kit


Some recipes:
Ingredients

• 1 ½ pounds
  Flank Steak - thinly sliced
• 1 tablespoon
  Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt (or 1/2 tablespoon of any other salt)
• ½ teaspoon
  Black Pepper
• 1 tablespoon
  Garlic Powder
• 1 tablespoon
  Chili Powder

# 2

Ingredients

• 3 pounds
  London Broil
• 2 cups
  Pineapple Juice
• 1 cup
  Apple Cider Vinegar
• 6 ounces
  Coconut Aminos
• 2 ounces
  Lemon Juice
• 1 teaspoon
  Paprika
• 2 tablespoons
  Smoked Salt
• 1 teaspoon
  Black Pepper
• 1 teaspoon
  Ground Ginger
• 1 teaspoon
  Onion Powder
• 1 teaspoon
  Garlic Powder
• 1 teaspoon
  Chili Powder

# 3

Ingredients

• 1 pound
  Flank Steak - thinly sliced into strips
• ¼ cup
  Coconut Aminos
• ½ tablespoon
  Worcestershire Sauce
• 1 teaspoon
  Garlic Powder
• 1 teaspoon
  Onion Powder
• 1 teaspoon
  Sea Salt
• 1 teaspoon
  Black Pepper
• 1 tablespoon
  Monk Fruit or Allulose
• ½ teaspoon
  Red Pepper Flakes

If you do not want to go through the whole cutting game, you can also just use grass fed ground beef, combine all the ingredients, marinate and place in the Jerky gun. Still tastes great; much faster too.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Yes but that is not why people here are fat asses.

It's certainly not helping

 

[EyeBRollin]

Not sure. The bigger issue is the inflammation and other incendiary effects they cause in the body over time

Inflammation is an issue, but not more than Americans eat and drink a shvt ton of empty calories.

 

[tightgrp]

I’m now in my 40’s and about 15% bodyfat. I was 37 in my avatar. I can lose fat at will and maintain my weight because I exercise six days per week with weights and cardio.

My diet consists of eggs, various meats, rice, potatoes, fish, yogurt, cottage cheese, bread, pasta, avocados, and nuts. Only chicken breast and whole chickens in my diets are organic.

What fatness-inducing poisons are in the above mentioned? How am I maintaining my weight with such poisoned foods?

What makes chicken organic?

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi BibleBelt,
"A friend just started delivering for door dash. He said most of his deliveries are fast food like taco bell, delivered into the housing projects of neighboring small towns. So the poorest people buy the sh1ttiest food and pay the most for it."Yup as I wend my adulterous path home,though very late,around,say 11-12AM,the number of Pizza delivery cars is amazing...I had one mouthful of pizza many years ago,I spat it out,Vile!

 

[Bible_Belt]

Hi BibleBelt,
"A friend just started delivering for door dash. He said most of his deliveries are fast food like taco bell, delivered into the housing projects of neighboring small towns. So the poorest people buy the sh1ttiest food and pay the most for it."Yup as I wend my adulterous path home,though very late,around,say 11-12AM,the number of Pizza delivery cars is amazing...I had one mouthful of pizza many years ago,I spat it out,Vile!

That's funny. I don't know about Australia, but friends who have been to the UK have told me the pizza there is awful. Pizza can be anything you put on it. I like to doctor up a frozen pizza with a roasted red bell pepper, mushrooms, olives, garlic and vegetables from the garden like zucchini. It's mostly a pile of vegetables and a different world from the corporate crap available for delivery.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi BibleBelt,
Our Guys must cook them in rancid whale blubber....picked up on your growing Zuchinis...So do I,Black Jack for preference,reccommend you let a couple grow to the length of your favourite Baking Pan then making a long horizontal cut,leave a little canoe,I scoop out the seeds and pulp and generally fill with Pre-prepared diced Lamb Steak,Kidney,and red onions...Add Canned Fava Beans,Tomatoes and Vegetables...You can either throw away the top cut away Finishing your little Boatload by Grilling Grated Cheese and Bread Crumbs on top or Docter it,so as to make a lid sealing the flavours in.

 

[Pandora]

How many calories are in this poison?
What is this poisons' name?
If it has no calories, how do you propose it affects the consumer's metabolism such that the consumer gets fat?

I'm asking you these questions but because I want an answer, but because your argument is based on a boogeyman theory. This 'boogeyman', in reality, is condensed carbs, oversized portions, and excess fat intake.
Look at the diet of the average American and compare it to the average diet of healthier countries; what's the difference?

The poisons name is high fructose corn syrup. The other poisons name is seed oil. There are other "boogeymen" in our foods too.

I will be honest and agree with you that they do eat healthier in other countries but thats not the main reason that they are thin. They dont eat that much cleaner than Americans. They are not very health conscious in Europe. They smoke a lot. Europeans also drink a ton and dont go to the gym that much. The main factor is the nutrional value of their foods. Even the processed foods are more healthy in other parts of the world.

 

[Pandora]

How many calories do these fillers have and do they have to be reported on the nutrition label?

Okay so I ate a ton of baklava on this trip. I mean a pounds of the stuff and I still lost about 3lbs on this trip. As you probably know baklava is just straight sugar. Even the treats are healthier in other nations.

It is most likely multifactorial. You are right in blaming the Americans for poor health decisions. I am also right in saying our food is more poisonous than the rest of the worlds food. These positions are not mutually exclusive.

Oh btw I have a condition called Hidrinatis Supprativa. Its an autoimmune condition that is caused by food. It did not flare up once in the foreign country. I come to the US and then it flares up again.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The poisons name is high fructose corn syrup. The other poisons name is seed oil. There are other "boogeymen" in our foods too.

“Seed oil” is not a poison. We should follow the science on these things.. not social media hustlers.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

“Seed oil” is not a poison. We should follow the science on these things.. not social media hustlers.

I've never heard any social media hustlers talk about seed oils. I've heard many MD's talk about it including Dr Chris Knobbe, Dr Paul Saladino, Dr Paul Mason, Dr Layne Norton. It's pretty self evidently toxic. Olive oil is just squeezed from olives, bam, good to go. Animal fats, same thing. Canola oil has a multi step extraction process in a literal refinery. They heat it to hundreds of degrees (increasing oxidation), bleach it, chemical wash it, tons of other nonsense. How could anything be healthy if it takes so much processing to even be rendered edible? And it's not like there aren't studies showing it's inflammatory effects.

Take a look at this. Vegetable oils were originally created to be used in machinery and no one ever thought they were fit for human consumption until the lobbying took place.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I've never heard any social media hustlers talk about seed oils. I've heard many MD's talk about it including Dr Chris Knobbe, Dr Paul Saladino, Dr Paul Mason, Dr Layne Norton.

Goes on to directly cite social media hustlers…

“Seed oils” are bad in the sense that you shouldn’t be eating anything fried from a restaurant because you don’t know the oil quality or if it is being reused.

“Seed oils” if you’re referring to the vegetable oils bought in the store, they are proven to be beneficial to your bloodwork when used in place of animal fat and tropical oils.

 

[Pandora]

I make my own. Happy to post the recipes. I use 2 lbs of grass fed beef and a dehydrator. The GF is also hooked.

NESCO FD-75A Snackmaster Pro Food Dehydrator, For Snacks, Fruit, Beef Jerky, Gray

Nesco Jumbo Works Beef Jerky kit


Some recipes:
Ingredients

• 1 ½ pounds
  Flank Steak - thinly sliced
• 1 tablespoon
  Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt (or 1/2 tablespoon of any other salt)
• ½ teaspoon
  Black Pepper
• 1 tablespoon
  Garlic Powder
• 1 tablespoon
  Chili Powder

# 2

Ingredients

• 3 pounds
  London Broil
• 2 cups
  Pineapple Juice
• 1 cup
  Apple Cider Vinegar
• 6 ounces
  Coconut Aminos
• 2 ounces
  Lemon Juice
• 1 teaspoon
  Paprika
• 2 tablespoons
  Smoked Salt
• 1 teaspoon
  Black Pepper
• 1 teaspoon
  Ground Ginger
• 1 teaspoon
  Onion Powder
• 1 teaspoon
  Garlic Powder
• 1 teaspoon
  Chili Powder

# 3

Ingredients

• 1 pound
  Flank Steak - thinly sliced into strips
• ¼ cup
  Coconut Aminos
• ½ tablespoon
  Worcestershire Sauce
• 1 teaspoon
  Garlic Powder
• 1 teaspoon
  Onion Powder
• 1 teaspoon
  Sea Salt
• 1 teaspoon
  Black Pepper
• 1 tablespoon
  Monk Fruit or Allulose
• ½ teaspoon
  Red Pepper Flakes

If you do not want to go through the whole cutting game, you can also just use grass fed ground beef, combine all the ingredients, marinate and place in the Jerky gun. Still tastes great; much faster too.

Thanks man

 

[ManFromTartarus]

As a foodie in the US and one of the older members here that still has a decent physique, I'll just say it boils down to choices and habits.

Like already stated, processed, premade, and fast food made by corporations that care only about profit, fill these foods with everything that will make them taste good and sell. (salt, sugar, oils, artificial flavorings & preservatives) Living in a city known for having an agenda against fast food franchises it's been easy to eat out at independent restaurants that have to care about the quality & integrity of their product. I have a weakness for a good cheesesteak and fried chicken every once in a while but I don't weigh a ton cause I don't frequent KFC or BurgerKing/MC'D and go to reputable local shops instead. Otherwise I'll make my own food, plus I'm a fisherman that catches my own seafood, a large part of my diet.

As for habits, much of USA is sedentary watching too much TV & video gaming and consuming these toxic foods, and seeing more advertising of them, so it becomes a vicious cycle. I don't do vid games, watch little TV, and spend most of my time playing music, fishing, women, and it paid off, especially as I'm getting older being active has really helped.

We all have these choices, grab some fast food, a frozen dinner, or take the time to cook (or learn how). Watch your favorite TV show, play the latest video game after a meal, or do something active. Makes all the difference in the world.

OP there are some good points you make but don't kid yourself about some of these things or come to false conclusions.
- Losing weight while on vacation is actually fairly common as you tend to be more active doings things while there, and traveling itself burns calories. Not to mention if you visit somewhere with a warm climate that encourages sweating and burning fat.
- RE:Baklava - I'm Greek, have made it many times, and it's actually mostly nuts and phyllo with a sugar/honey syrup. Nowhere close to being as fattening as something like ice cream or fast food.

 

[Obee1]

I've never heard any social media hustlers talk about seed oils. I've heard many MD's talk about it including Dr Chris Knobbe, Dr Paul Saladino, Dr Paul Mason, Dr Layne Norton. It's pretty self evidently toxic. Olive oil is just squeezed from olives, bam, good to go. Animal fats, same thing. Canola oil has a multi step extraction process in a literal refinery. They heat it to hundreds of degrees (increasing oxidation), bleach it, chemical wash it, tons of other nonsense. How could anything be healthy if it takes so much processing to even be rendered edible? And it's not like there aren't studies showing it's inflammatory effects.

Take a look at this. Vegetable oils were originally created to be used in machinery and no one ever thought they were fit for human consumption until the lobbying took place.

I think seed oils have a role to play. Knowing correlation doesn't equal causation we still shouldn't ignore that our rate of obesity correlates with our consumption of seed oil. Specifically linoleic acid which is a type of omega 6. We do need omega 6s but our bodies aren't designed to handle the amounts we are taking in. We take in 8x what we did before Crisco came out. I think some food engineers have used science for evil reasons and have perfected what makes hyperpalatable food. It's usually a combination of fat and carb. Researchers have found that linoleic acid activates the cannabinoid system by way of the CB1 receptor that interferes with hunger signals (leptin maybe). This is the same receptor activated when smoking weed that causes the munchies. I saw one study of mice. One group regular mouse chow, the other mouse chow with 8x the amount of linoleic acid. All were given the same 24/7 access to food. The linoleic acid group consumed 18% more calories and weighed 20% more than the low linoleic acid group. They posit that the linoleic acid group activated the CB1 receptor and they weren't getting the signal they had enough.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Goes on to directly cite social media hustlers…

“Seed oils” are bad in the sense that you shouldn’t be eating anything fried from a restaurant because you don’t know the oil quality or if it is being reused.

“Seed oils” if you’re referring to the vegetable oils bought in the store, they are proven to be beneficial to your bloodwork when used in place of animal fat and tropical oils.

MDs who use social media are hustlers? An "influencer" in my eyes is someone who blindly promotes whatever affiliate program they're with no actual credentials besides clout. Why are MDs less trustworthy just because they have social media? Where else we even get the information from besides substack? It's not like journalists/reporters are going to tell us anything.

The problem here is most of our food science is just bad. It's based on epidemiology studies which are fundamentally flawed. I remain convinced the west has no idea what they're talking about because there's no other explaination why our country is obese, diabetic, dying of heart attacks at such a high rate. People have been following poor data (and you gotta ask, who's funding these studies?) for decades and it doesn't seem like we're getting any better as a country.

Watch this next time you have some free time and tell me it's not at least alarming and we do not know anything.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi ManFromTarturas,
" Otherwise I'll make my own food, plus I'm a fisherman that catches my own seafood, a large part of my diet. ".....From my observations of People I would predict that you will make old bones!