The elusive "FAITHFUL GIRLFRIEND"

[Sweetcheeks]

Does such a thing exist?

I've read a few posts from very experienced PUA's at various times on this board, who claim that they can seduce any woman, regardless of whether or not they have boyfriends or husbands.

Many of these guys relate that they are disgusted with how easy it is to push a woman's buttons, so that they can be maneuvered, by saying the right things and making the right moves, into bed regardless of their situation. They indicate that they have achieved the "holy grail" of seduction, by turning seduction into a science consisting of a number of pre-planned steps rather than hit-or-miss experiments.

Now, let's say that one of these "masters of seduction" is in a relationship. Let's say that he keeps his woman's interest level in him very high.

Is his woman still as likely to be unfaithful?

 

[frivolousz21]

no those so called PUA's cannot get a faithful women to cheat....

but they can get a women prone to cheat or in a unhappy relationship to cheat.

 

[B-Lemond]

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I read that and I was thinking that it had to be frivolous21 and then I looked and guess who it was......IT WAS YOU, Frivolous! hehe

Anyway, I agree with Frivolous!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
no those so called PUA's cannot get a faithful women to cheat....

 

[SeldomSeen]

RE:

there are some women that you wont break I dont care how good you are and these are the women I admire. Now myself I dont like to go after are girl who's in a longterm faithful relationship. Why should I? Im not going to give her the love her boyfriend/husband gives her, if she is unhappy then they have some talking to do and I am not the answer to her problems. Now if she is totally unhappy, getting no attention, no love, no romance etc then she needs to make her plans to leave and thats when I come along and plant my seed to grow later on when their relationship is over.

Messing with a girl who is taken is dangerous. I had a friend who was a good pickup artist get his ass whipped by 3 guys after he was trying to mack on one guys girlfriend at a club one night. It wouldnt have led to that had he not said "she's your girl...that wont be for long" Another friend of mine years back was shot at by a guy when he found out he was trying to mess with his wife. Why go through that?

 

[frivolousz21]

trust me..if ur women is IN love with you.

she WILL not cheat.

dotn buy anyone here who says differ....if it happen to them.
she wasnt in love.

 

[Wyldfire]

Those guys who claim they can get any woman in bed are full of sh*t. If a woman doesn't want to cheat, she won't...and there isn't anyone who can get her to.

 

[BrotherAP]

They think that just because they've had success with many women who were in relationships, I'm sure they failed to realize that half the women that rejected them might have done so just because they were unwilling to cheat.

 

[( . )( . )]

Originally posted by Sweetcheeks

Now, let's say that one of these "masters of seduction" is in a relationship. Let's say that he keeps his woman's interest level in him very high.

Is his woman still as likely to be unfaithful?

Yep, its all about game and who she perceives as being a shinier prospect ( mainly who can boost her social status in her mind ).

The sweetest most innocent girls you ever laid eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a HAT. The one thing that most men value most - loyalty - is just not there with women. Women don't think in terms of honor, women don't say "word is bond;" women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, period.-- anonymous.

Its not a bad thing, its just how it is and always will be. Improve yourself and you can reduce the chances greatly of her moving on, after you accept this (if you can), all any man can and should care about is improving himself.

Dont get me wrong, I'm awesome but even I know there are a few branches out there she can and will swing to if he crosses her path, only fools pretend its not possible.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

I think there is always the possibility, but I doubt anyone can get EVERY woman in a relationship to cheat with him (if you can prove otherwise, feel free to).

That's why its always important to live your life for yourself, not for some woman. That way if she cheats, you've still got the rest of your life to enjoy - without her.

 

[IEman99]

Originally posted by diplomatic_lies

That's why its always important to live your life for yourself, not for some woman. That way if she cheats, you've still got the rest of your life to enjoy - without her.

exactly.

 

[frivolousz21]

That's why its always important to live your life for yourself, not for some woman. That way if she cheats, you've still got the rest of your life to enjoy - without her.

I agree..but you have to include her in your life..or your relationship wont excell on all levels

 

[SAYNO]

I think any guy that tries to seduce married women are *******s anyway, and need to get thier ass kicked!

Besides, being stupid its very dangerous...

But, contrary to rumour, I believe that there are a few faithful ladies left out there, and when you find her you have to hold on real tight!

So, no not all women cheat!




Sayno'

 

[RockstarPUA]

Every woman will cheat if put in the right situation.

Do you think that there is a few specific women that are just different? They are made differently? No.

It is a fact that women are ALL very emotional beings. This is how we PUAs pickup and seduce women. This is why looks don't matter. This is why money doesn't matter. And its the same reason why boyfriends/husbands don't matter.

I am speaking from expearience and also from a biological standpoint.

I would never pickup a girl with a husband or a fieance but I have gotten girls with boyfriends...

How? Simple. They became emotional and when a girl becomes emotional her logic will dis-engage. She won't even remember the fact that she has a boyfriend or a husband.

Girls can get swpet up by emotions. Its just how they are wired. Its in their heads. They will get caught up in a situation and will cheat and then go back to their boyfriend and say 'It just happened. I don't know how.'

I've gotten girls with boyfriends and I've had my girlfriends cheat on me even though I kept the interest levels high.

There are some girls that avoid getting themselves into the presence of a real alpha DJ guy so they won't cheat. But if they are ever in the presence of a real man thats funny, un needy and can get them emotional, the boyfriend or husband won't matter.

When i figured this out it was depressing for me. I read a stat that 80% of married women cheat. With what I know now about how un-faithful women can be it makes me question marrige. Thats a whole different topic...

Cheers,

~Rockstar

 

[frivolousz21]

if 80 percent of married women cheat..which i dont believe.

then 99 percent of men cheat

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
trust me..if ur women is IN love with you.

she WILL not cheat.

dotn buy anyone here who says differ....if it happen to them.
she wasnt in love.

I can go along with that.

 

[nishbuk]

Well, maybe I don't necessarily agree that EVERY woman can be made to cheat, I certainly believe that there are many, many more women than we would EXPECT, that would have no problem cheating. And that is the sad thing, and the important fact: That it's a larger number than you would expect.

 

[MindOverMatter]

a girl can be in love with you, but still cheat on you if she thinks you may be cheating on her, or if she is insecure in the relationship. im not saying all girls in love cheat, but love is not omnipotent as you make it sound.

my personal opinion is that a large number of girls are capable of cheating, if it's at a right time, right place, and with a right person. when you hook up with a girl that's in a relationship, you will know this. one girl i met who had a boyfriend was really in love with her man, but they were going through a bad period (fighting everyday) and she was emotionally hurt. We danced, I pushed the right buttons, said the right things, and I knew I was inside her head at that point.

after that, she knew what she was doing was wrong, but it was a rush at that time for both of us, and once she was turned on, she didn't want to turn back.

the next day she regretted it because she did love the guy and i meant nothing to her, but then it was too late. doing a bad thing with someone you'll never see again can be like a drug for even the most faithful of girls and it can give them the emotional stability in the relationship if they're insecure. after they do that one wrong thing, they know that no matter what their guy does, they wont feel like a victim and will just feel even. and after that, they usually become better girlfriends to their man. either that, or they become chronic cheaters.

if you can seduce a girl to the point where she is thrilled to be doing something wrong, and give her that rush, she will go along with it, whether she has a man or no man.

i'm not saying that every girl is a cheater, im saying that every once in a while, every girl will have that window of oppurunity where if you catch her and know what you are doing, she will ignore what her brain tells her is wrong, and just go along with the rush.

 

[Wyldfire]

There are women who won't cheat no matter what. I'm one of them. My ex was an *******, my marriage was horrible and my ex repulsed me. I was a ****tail waitress at a bar and had more opportunities to cheat than you can shake a stick at. I never once even considered it.

I also spent 5 years with a man who spent over 4 of those years in prison. I could have cheated on him easily and he never would have known. He even told me he would understand if I did cheat. That pissed me off that he'd suggest such a thing. I never cheated on him and abstained from sex for over 4 years to wait for him.

Many, many men have tried to get me to cheat. A lot of them I've been attracted to and if I were single, I would have dated or gotten involved with a lot of them. I still never cheated with any of them.

 

[MindOverMatter]

oh, and I almost forgot.

WORD OF ADVICE.

if you are in an amazing relationship with a girl who loves you, BEWARE of her friends. if your girl is happy to the point where she wont stop talking about you to them, it will make them envious. if her friends don't like you, or are lonely/single/miserable, they will sabotage the relationship.

when you have a fight with your girl, who does she go to? her friends.

when she is unhappy because of something that happened, who does she go to? her friends.

what do her friends do? they try to cheer her up.

how? dress up nicely, go out, get drunk and make her forget about her problems.

if those friends are against you, they will take advantage of your girl in her emotionally state, and push her along. it takes a few right words, and it's done:

i.e. "he's kinda cute steph, you should really stop beating yourself up over this fight with your guy, after how he treated you and yelled at you and got mad and left, what makes you think he's not with someone else now? why punish yourself when you didn't even do anything wrong...blah blah blah"

and these are the people she trusts. so when she's drunk, she may be easily influenced by those girls. the next day, she feels miserable, and her fake friends are happy because now they don't have to keep listening about her perfect relationship.

lesson to learn - be in a good book with her friends. if they're single and miserable, hook them up with somebody...anybody.