The death of the 'bad boy': How Gen Z has redefined the male heartthrob as alpha males are out and cinnamon rolls, Golden Retrievers and himbos are in

[Pandora]

I will agree that having a motorcycle is a niche max strategy which applies to your anecdotal stories, but your average girl is turned off by them. Personally, I think I would have turned off all of the girls that I dated if they found out I had a motorcycle.

CornbreadFed...my comrade...this is not true. I say this respectfully. Girls get wet over guys that have bikes. My homies ex cheated on him with a guy that had a bike in Miami. He got her to ride his bike around the city.
How would you know that the average girl is turned off by bikes? Thats not what I have observed. In romance novels the guy either is on a horse or a motorcycle.

Correct me if I am wrong. I dont own a bike but I know guys that do.

Btw a geek on a bike is still a geek on a bike.

 

[Pandora]

You are mixing correlation and causation. I am not saying that having a motorcycle--in and of itself--will CAUSE you to attract more women and retain them on your c0ck long-term. If you put a beta on a bike, women will notice him in the short term, but they will lose interest after he opens his mouth. The same would be true if you put an obese guy on a motorcycle.

In general though, and all else being equal, the men who ride high-performance motorcycles tend to be different from men who do not. And motorcycles are not the only indicators. Some will race cars, some will be in Wall St., some will be jacked from exercising, some may be entrepreneurs...the list goes on and on.



I have a motorcycle because I have liked riding since I was eight years old. I am not putting on a costume hoping get la!d. I am a risk-taker, I am disagreeable, and I can be rebellious when necessary. On average, guys who own sports motorcycles and love that lifestyle are qualitatively different than guys who either do not ride a motorcycle or just buy a bike hoping to get pvssy. It is a form of self-selection (see my point in paragraph one). There are also men who are alpha and do NOT ride motorcycles. It is not an all-encompassing phenomenon.

Unequivocally, there will be some women who are NOT attracted to men who ride motorcycles. I am not making absolute claims. There are also women who like betas, women who like cucks, women who like to walk all over guys, sure. I will not attract those women (thank God).

Lets stop the bs. Girls like the bike archetype. There is a reason some of the hottest chicks are part of sport bike clubs. Are these girls quality? Heck no..but they are hot. Btw I am agreeing with you.

I wish I could ride but I am afraid. Working in EMS scares the crap out of you when it comes to bikes.

 

[MatureDJ]

Motorcycling, whether sport or recreation or lifestyle, is a niche. He's right about that, but the conventional view of the 'biker' is an exciting rebel these days, while there's still a masculine 'bad boy' aura around motorcycling, so women far outside the niche are (often secretly) attracted to the 'bad boy'.
So even walking around in leathers and a helmet in your hand can make you mucho macho attractive to a lot of 'ladies' who you wouldn't expect to be attracted to the rough biker type.

This guy mogs every motorcyclist around.

 

[oliver109]

Because women care more about other shvt than muscles and I sucked at providing it. I could only get lucky one night stands or hookups at parties basically. Outside that, I basically screwed my off and on ex for years until I figured out shvt and in addition got a more leaner muscular build.

It depends on the size of the muscles as well, a very tall muscular man would have to be mentally ill to struggle with women.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

This guy mogs every motorcyclist around.

And here's the difference - every motorcyclist rides his own ride. A reckless rider doesn't 'man-of-the-group' other motorcyclists, that's not how motorcycling works. We respect skill, but reckless hooliganism is generally looked at by professional motorcyclists as foolish behaviour.

I don't wear body cams. I've been riding for close to forty years, amassed over a million motorcycle kilometres with at least 20,000 kilometres of filtering and lane-splitting in some of the most congested cities of the world as a motorcycle courier. I rode all over Europe on some of the most challenging roads in the world, but I'm not a stunt rider popping wheelies in heavy traffic. And I don't film the 'cool riding' to impress others on Youtube.

A non-motorcyclist might watch that video you posted and think the guy is 'da bomb', but he's similar to these thrillseekers: