The Dating Power Flip at Age 30

[HaleyBaron]

Women aren't really built to live alone without partners despite what they say , a real man can just about cope without becoming to sour if he hasn't been fvcked around too badly

I want to touch on this that this is very important. I've seen waaaay too many women who live by themselves asking men they go out with, including myself, to come over and sleep with them cause they are afraid of being by themselves. Women were not made to be by themselves which is why so many have pets. Meanwhile, men can live alone cause we can deal with the silence of our thoughts.

 

[Willie Naylor]

I want to touch on this that this is very important. I've seen waaaay too many women who live by themselves asking men they go out with, including myself, to come over and sleep with them cause they are afraid of being by themselves. Women were not made to be by themselves which is why so many have pets. Meanwhile, men can live alone cause we can deal with the silence of our thoughts.

Humans weren't meant to be alone, in general. If you asked 100 random people when the last time they hugged someone was, or the last time they told some they loved them, you'd probably only have less than 5 people who did so in the last 24 hours.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Humans weren't meant to be alone, in general. If you asked 100 random people when the last time they hugged someone was, or the last time they told some they loved them, you'd probably only have less than 5 people who did so in the last 24 hours.

I can admit that, though for me who has access to women, it's probably more likely they touched someone. Women can get access to someone to touch or socialize much easier than men. Even the ugliest woman can have a guy who wants to **** her. The ugliest guy meanwhile will have to have a lot of resources and even then it'd likely be either a golddigger or an escort.

I can't measure yet if it's very bad these days or not. I can certainly agree that boys getting with girls is in crisis mode.

 

[Bokanovsky]

An article about the dating “power flip” at 30. Women have the power in their 20s, lose some of it in their 30s and all of it in 40s.

The Dating Power Flip at Age 30

Talking to many women like her, it’s intriguing how many look back on past relationships where they let good men get away because they weren’t ready

danielmiessler.com

Thoughts?

The flip is gradual. There is no radical difference between, say, 29 and 30. But yes, women lose power as they get older. This is particularly true of women who are over 35.

 

[hardboiled85]

The flip is gradual. There is no radical difference between, say, 29 and 30. But yes, women lose power as they get older. This is particularly true of women who are over 35.

Their looks take a nose dive, not just social power - Then they are competing with thin early 20's girls.

 

[SW15]

Their looks take a nose dive, not just social power - Then they are competing with thin early 20's girls.

Are they really? The typical 30 something beta male is a sexual scavenger taking whatever he can get from women close to his own age.

 

[bat soup]

An article about the dating “power flip” at 30. Women have the power in their 20s, lose some of it in their 30s and all of it in 40s.

The Dating Power Flip at Age 30

Talking to many women like her, it’s intriguing how many look back on past relationships where they let good men get away because they weren’t ready

danielmiessler.com

Thoughts?

This is good news if you want to bang post-wall women. If you want to bang women under 20, it's bad news because they still have all the power.

 

[Hal9000]

Are women in their 30s, or older, in less demand than women in their 20's? Sure. Are women in their 30s hard up for dates and at a disadvantage compared to men of the same age. Not at all. Articles like this seem to be more about what the author, and its readers, want reality to be than it is about an accurate reflection of reality. A decent looking, 6ish, 40 year old female will have literally a hundred fold more options than practically any 40 year old guy.

 

[MatureDJ]

So why do women seem to become miserable spinsters at 35 and beyond?

Because by then they have degraded to the point where Chad is no longer interested even for casual sex.

 

[MatureDJ]

There are women 50+ on Match and OurTime with flooded inboxes from men in their age brackets. It might never end.

It's OVER for AgeBracketCels.

 

[2Rocky]

Their looks take a nose dive, not just social power - Then they are competing with thin early 20's girls.

I gotta say these 18-20 year olds look "pudgy" to me with their round cheeks smooth cheeks. By the time a WOMAN reaches 25 if she is slender she tends to show her angularity and good bone structure.

Jen Aniston. Better now than then

 

[hardboiled85]

Are they really? The typical 30 something beta male is a sexual scavenger taking whatever he can get from women close to his own age.

Well each to their own, women look old to me by 28. I fail to find them sexually attractive compared to a 20 year old. Combined with how ugly and entitled their personalities get with age.

 

[SW15]

Articles like this seem to be more about what the author, and its readers, want reality to be than it is about an accurate reflection of reality.

I agree. Since I've been in my 30s (38 now) and mainly dating younger women but women close to my own age, I've not noticed much of a change with women. Part of that time was on swipe apps, which is the absolute worst way to meet women. A 30-35 year old woman on a swipe app is too busy with prospects to notice anything different. She might get approached less in person. However, if she focuses more on her in-person social life, she won't have to worry about prospects so long as she is childless and not overweight.

Are women in their 30s, or older, in less demand than women in their 20's? Sure. Are women in their 30s hard up for dates and at a disadvantage compared to men of the same age. Not at all. A decent looking, 6ish, 40 year old female will have literally a hundred fold more options than practically any 40 year old guy.

This is accurate. It's a difficult pill for men to swallow. Men don't like the disadvantage we have compared to women our own ages in our teens and 20s. It is a male fantasy for men in their 30s to see a woman in her 30s who rejected us during high school or college try to get us after her prime years. It just doesn't happen though.

Women in their 30s/40s are hard up for top tier men to commit to them long term. However, there is no shortage of similarly aged beta males willing to commit to a 30s/40s woman.

I've seen waaaay too many women who live by themselves asking men they go out with, including myself, to come over and sleep with them cause they are afraid of being by themselves. Women were not made to be by themselves which is why so many have pets. Meanwhile, men can live alone cause we can deal with the silence of our thoughts.

The single women having pet thing has gotten really bad with the Millennial generation. I think when Boomer and Gen X women were 22-35, they were more likely to live pet free when they lived alone or with a female roommate.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Both childless women and single moms in their 30s are delusional.

There are many childless men who end up committing to single moms. These are low value men. I avoid single moms.



Starting in my mid to late 20s, I would avoid women older than me.

Most guys would be happy with a blowie from a 26 year old woman in a parking lot. You were annoyed. This is good because you have abundance mindset.

Aaron Clarey said that you can find based single mom's because reality has come crashing in. Some can be cute but recreational at best. Can't fathom signing up for your own cucking. No dice!

100% agree with you for the reasons above. I've never dated older women EVER. I don't look my age. It's a blessing. Good genetics coupled with lifestyle. Dialing in my sleep has been epic. I can't stress it enough. Jre 1109 podcast is fire. It elevated my life, game, lifts, money among other things.

Nice girl. Steady rotation atm. Sniper approach like you playboy BUT the bullseye is individual sovereignty. Making moves. Everything else is of secondary importance. You Sir are living the dream.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Well each to their own, women look old to me by 28. I fail to find them sexually attractive compared to a 20 year old. Combined with how ugly and entitled their personalities get with age.

Not sure how old you are. When blue pilled I found myself dating mid 20s often. In fairness you can say the same comparing 20 to 18. SMV is very individual. Asian or Desi in early 30s can look younger than your early 20 something. Here in the UK 23 is bulking season by and large. Now I always pull younger than me but my marker for preferences is mad young. Legal.obv lol

The last part is money. +1

Lots of modern women. Could be religious but she's feminist had abortions and got more slams then the wwf. The game changer is pulling hotter younger girls. Running into skanks from the past. There's no bigger flex.

 

[SW15]

Aaron Clarey said that you can find based single mom's because reality has come crashing in. Some can be cute but recreational at best. Can't fathom signing up for your own cucking. No dice!

There are plenty of men who get into committed relationships with single moms. It is bad when it is a childless man who does it. It's common for a single dad (kids under 18 from a previous relationship) to get into a relationship with a single mom (kids under 18 from a previous relationship).

There's also been an increase in gray divorce (divorce among people 50+). Due to this, you'll see a man with kids over 18 get into a relationship with women with kids over 18. That's not exactly two single parents dating each other but it can cause some uncomfortable family-type gatherings. Two sets of adult children aren't thrilled about interacting with each other.

For childless men, I recommend avoiding single moms at all costs. Even for recreational stuff. There are enough childless women out there, especially for the Millennial (1982-1996) childless. The 2020s are going to see an onslaught of people turning 40 and being childless.

There are more childless men than childless women out there too, which probably forces a fair amount of childless men to settle for women with kids. Since most men in their 30s/40s are beta male sexual scavengers taking whatever women close to their own they can get, this is what leads to childless men settling for single moms.

I hold myself in esteem. If I happen to approach a woman who is a single mom, I eject from the situation. I value my time and only choose childless women.

Nice girl. Steady rotation atm. Sniper approach like you playboy BUT the bullseye is individual sovereignty. Making moves. Everything else is of secondary importance. You Sir are living the dream.

Individual sovereignty is crucial. Agree so much. Yes, multiple people who know me have said that I live a dream.

 

[darksprezzatura]

This might be contrary to popular forum opinion.

We are basing a woman's "power" as her attractiveness, and how she has lost most of her "power" by the time she's 40.

This in a sense automatically pedestalises women according to how attractive they are.

I say, screw the looks. See what how a woman regardless of her looks can help you grow or help you get closer to your goal/mission in life.

Those are the kind of women i would want around me.

 

[lost_blackbird]

If I have no need for sex with any particular woman, regardless of my age, then I would have all of the power.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

There are plenty of men who get into committed relationships with single moms. It is bad when it is a childless man who does it. It's common for a single dad (kids under 18 from a previous relationship) to get into a relationship with a single mom (kids under 18 from a previous relationship).

There's also been an increase in gray divorce (divorce among people 50+). Due to this, you'll see a man with kids over 18 get into a relationship with women with kids over 18. That's not exactly two single parents dating each other but it can cause some uncomfortable family-type gatherings. Two sets of adult children aren't thrilled about interacting with each other.

For childless men, I recommend avoiding single moms at all costs. Even for recreational stuff. There are enough childless women out there, especially for the Millennial (1982-1996) childless. The 2020s are going to see an onslaught of people turning 40 and being childless.

There are more childless men than childless women out there too, which probably forces a fair amount of childless men to settle for women with kids. Since most men in their 30s/40s are beta male sexual scavengers taking whatever women close to their own they can get, this is what leads to childless men settling for single moms.

I hold myself in esteem. If I happen to approach a woman who is a single mom, I eject from the situation. I value my time and only choose childless women.



Individual sovereignty is crucial. Agree so much. Yes, multiple people who know me have said that I live a dream.

Tbh I don't quite get it. Prefer to be a bachelor but I am wired differently. I see individual sovereignty in bachelorhood. Particularly in the holiday season. I don't envy fellas trucking on to their mother in law boomer or late Gen x Karen. I heard the story and I want to door myself in that existence.

I don't blame you for ejecting from these sets. Women love to paint their narrative on cuckoldry. I would rather fap.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

This might be contrary to popular forum opinion.

We are basing a woman's "power" as her attractiveness, and how she has lost most of her "power" by the time she's 40.

This in a sense automatically pedestalises women according to how attractive they are.

I say, screw the looks. See what how a woman regardless of her looks can help you grow or help you get closer to your goal/mission in life.

Those are the kind of women i would want around me.

It's a tricky scenario. The baddie covered in tattoos or your high school crush is in college gang bangs. Wrecked before 21. I remember older men banging girls in high school. The girls are a mess today. Single mom's and fat as ****kkk. I saw the other girls who were plain Jane hit their stride late. Doll up. Low bodies. Developed late in school. I've never met a baddie who wasn't catch and release material. I've made the argument before I'd prefer peak smv 18-23 6/10 cute plain Jane over a late twenty something baddie. I will crush both. Older women are insufferable.