The Dating Power Flip at Age 30

[darksprezzatura]

Can you expand on this?

Sure.

I'm no super chad. I'm not a guy who has hundreds of girls panging for him with zero effort.

There's always some investment of time money mental headspace whatever while INTERACTING with women.

It's not like I've landed plain janes let alone models without any conversation/interaction/activity on my part.

Assuming I've been with dozens if not hundreds of women in my adult life, that's a LOT OF TIME MONEY and HEADSPACE, and most of them aren't available or with me now.

Most left.

I realised a few years too late, that:

What if let these women help me gain more power money social proof knowledge during courtship, instead of focusing on sex?

Women love doing things for men.

So that's where I started letting women help me advance my own goals, and assuming all plates crash, it's not a complete loss for me.

 

[darksprezzatura]

@Velasco I was the first to initiate with him so Im simply repaying the favor of at least responding to what he says.

@darksprezzatura The reason I am adamant in having spoken against what you're saying is because it is not something that any man coming to this forum should hear. It only affirms the feminist programming they came from. We're trying to get them away from that kind of thinking.

I need women's body. If a woman wants to devote her time to me, she best do something that lets me use more of my time [cooking and cleaning are good examples]. But I have sexual urges cause Im a man with high testosterone. After I nutted and satisfied, it's back to personal projects and building my career. This is how men should be living their lives. Living for a woman never works.

Hey man I completely understand.

Folks plugged in, following a brainwashed programming detached from reality disappoints me as well.

There's a gradual transformation that happened with me:

naive:
being manipulated, unable to see things as they are

TO

aggressive:
get laid, party, be cool, be tough, grow a beard, get laid harder, smash anything that moves, get shredded, get muscular

TO

now:
not caring about anything that doesn't help my goals, sex or otherwise

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I don't know too much about Gen Z as an early Millennial. The oldest Gen Z's are 24. A good portion of Gen Z (1997-2012) are still under 18.

Never stop lifting. Playing house is often a bad idea.



I do not. I let the conversation trail off and don't ask her out. I sometimes will mention that I am childless as a point of pride.

Smart play. I raged and went off in a tangent about single mom's and a swarm of them were raging. Lulz!

Gen Z fellas checkout typically the sec they get sny attention. It doesn't end well.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Sure.

I'm no super chad. I'm not a guy who has hundreds of girls panging for him with zero effort.

There's always some investment of time money mental headspace whatever while INTERACTING with women.

It's not like I've landed plain janes let alone models without any conversation/interaction/activity on my part.

Assuming I've been with dozens if not hundreds of women in my adult life, that's a LOT OF TIME MONEY and HEADSPACE, and most of them aren't available or with me now.

Most left.

I realised a few years too late, that:

What if let these women help me gain more power money social proof knowledge during courtship, instead of focusing on sex?

Women love doing things for men.

So that's where I started letting women help me advance my own goals, and assuming all plates crash, it's not a complete loss for me.

There's definitely a sunk cost and opportunity cost. Nice way to mitigate that time bro.

 

[PRW63]

An article about the dating “power flip” at 30. Women have the power in their 20s, lose some of it in their 30s and all of it in 40s.

The Dating Power Flip at Age 30

Talking to many women like her, it’s intriguing how many look back on past relationships where they let good men get away because they weren’t ready

danielmiessler.com

Thoughts?

It is accurate. But the guys on the receiving end mistakenly think their "ship has come in" and all the "Beta in Waiting" has paid off,...but...they end up being targeted as money mules to raise the kids for the single mothers who got pregnant with the Partyboys a few years earlier. After the guy raises the partyboy's kids and the kids hit late HS or College she dumps him to try to recapture her glory days with the now-divorced partyboys again. The Beta-in-Waiting continues to pay the alimony and child support for some time after that.

So if you are the Beta-in-Waiting in your early 30's you will have more options, but be very carefule what options you choose. Get one in her early-mid 20's who doesn't already have a kid. But you can still get screwed over (your kid or not).

 

[SW15]

So if you are the Beta-in-Waiting in your early 30's you will have more options, but be very carefule what options you choose. Get one in her early-mid 20's who doesn't already have a kid. But you can still get screwed over (your kid or not).

Let's say that you are a beta male in your early to mid 30s. How many 21-25 year old cute/hot women are seeking a 30-36 year old beta male? Even if you have a high two figures or low 6 figures job ($75k-130k), that's probably not enough to impress.

the guys on the receiving end mistakenly think their "ship has come in" and all the "Beta in Waiting" has paid off,...but...they end up being targeted as money mules to raise the kids for the single mothers who got pregnant with the Partyboys a few years earlier. After the guy raises the partyboy's kids and the kids hit late HS or College she dumps him to try to recapture her glory days with the now-divorced partyboys again. The Beta-in-Waiting continues to pay the alimony and child support for some time after that.

Most of these early to mid 30s beta males, especially the ones in the income range above ($75k-130k) are sexual scavengers who end up settling with some women close to their own age. There are times when these women in their 30s are childless, but sometimes these beta end up with a single mom due to a scarcity mentality.

Women in their 40s will try to get with the now-divorced partyboys again.

 

[PRW63]

Let's say that you are a beta male in your early to mid 30s. How many 21-25 year old cute/hot women are seeking a 30-36 year old beta male?

Not 21-25. It's 25 and over. The clock is ticking for them to finally have kids or to find a guy to support the kids they already came up with on the side,...so they "settle". It is the Beta-Provider side of Hypergamy. They will often divorce the guy later on in their 40's or early 50's when the kids are grown as we have already stated. It is a common pattern.

 

[SW15]

Not 21-25. It's 25 and over. The clock is ticking for them to finally have kids or to find a guy to support the kids they already came up with on the side,...so they "settle". It is the Beta-Provider side of Hypergamy. They will often divorce the guy later on in their 40's or early 50's when the kids are grown as we have already stated. It is a common pattern.

Is settling as common now? The feminist mantra which women proudly chant is "Never Settle!". Of course, what women say and what women do are often quite difficult. I think it is worth asking the question.

Ok, so 30-36 year old beta males can use a little bit of provider game to get 26-35 year old women. I think provider game now is less effective than it once was because women make their own money now. A 26-35 year old woman working in Marketing/Advertisting/Public Relations (common paths for them) makes a decent salary, especially if she's had 1-2 promotions since getting her BA/BS degree or has an MBA and is higher in management. How do you play provider game with a 26-35 year old woman who makes $70k-120k?

Agree about the divorces in the 40s/early 50s. How do women 45-54 find longer term committed partners? I guess they find another beta. Betas are plentiful.

 

[PRW63]

Is settling as common now? The feminist mantra which women proudly chant is "Never Settle!". Of course, what women say and what women do are often quite difficult. I think it is worth asking the question.

You are expecting consistency from feminism and modern women,...stop expecting it. Women are perfectly capable of living with cognitive dissonance due to being emotionally driven beings,...men not so much.

How do you play provider game with a 26-35 year old woman who makes $70k-120k?

You don't. Welcome to the societal train wreck we live in.

Agree about the divorces in the 40s/early 50s. How do women 45-54 find longer term committed partners? I guess they find another beta. Betas are plentiful.

They don't,...and at a biological viceral level they hate and are repulsed betas and don't want them either (you can't defeat biology and nature in the end). I'm in my late 50's. I am surrounded by a sea of broken single women in their mid-40's and up who are depressed and "messed up", complaining that they can't find a guy. Then you can throw into that mix the ones who have no kids because they wasted their prime years on their career. Some have just given up and marry their pets. Men aren't the only victims of the train wreck,...women are horribly damaged by feminism and the societal BS as well.

 

[SW15]

You are expecting consistency from feminism and modern women,...stop expecting it. Women are perfectly capable of living with cognitive dissonance due to being emotionally driven beings,...men not so much.

You make a really good point there.

I am surrounded by a sea of broken single women in their mid-40's and up who are depressed and "messed up", complaining that they can't find a guy. Then you can throw into that mix the ones who have no kids because they wasted their prime years on their career. Some have just given up and marry their pets. Men aren't the only victims of the train wreck,...women are horribly damaged by feminism and the societal BS as well.

The crazy thing is that this is only going to get worse in the future. 45-60 year olds now are late Boomers and most of the Gen X generation. When the Millennials start to hit their 40s-50s in large quantities in the 2020s-2030s, you will see even more of this.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

It would have been nice to get that on video... Can you give some more details of this event?

Misc detectives. No dice. No in fields

Just imagine the "I'M OFFENDED " Crew in masses raging. Lulz!

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

You make a really good point there.



The crazy thing is that this is only going to get worse in the future. 45-60 year olds now are late Boomers and most of the Gen X generation. When the Millennials start to hit their 40s-50s in large quantities in the 2020s-2030s, you will see even more of this.

Sw mate, I recognize your genius and forward thinking.

I used to be amazed at the masses of dumb asses following the beaten path. Here we are 2 yes in of wear your mask stfu and get your mystery booster or else.

The crash is coming gentlemen. I run a tight ship. Women can come with or get left behind. The caliber I'm pursuing is less than 1% of the population. It's timely but necessary to work volume to soft through the following dumpster fire of modern women and feminist. Most fellas aren't putting in work. They don't approach. At best hope some hot model virgin falls out of the sky onto their D. It doesn't happen.

The great exit from corporate by men is on the rise. Where do these boomer, late Gen x cat ladies go? They're in corporate pissed off hired on affirmative action. Clarey said to let women have the cesspool that is corporate.

I'm not sure I totally agree but sovereign individual who is based and unplugged can't tolerate it for long. The comeuppance is upon us fellas. Flaky ran through single mom's aged out is the aftermath.

I feel absolutely no sympathy. If anything its quite amusing the by product of modern women and 60yrs of feminism. A nuke would have wrecked less than lives then this ****.

 

[PRW63]

The crazy thing is that this is only going to get worse in the future. 45-60 year olds now are late Boomers and most of the Gen X generation. When the Millennials start to hit their 40s-50s in large quantities in the 2020s-2030s, you will see even more of this.

Yes, it is going to get worse. I do not believe there is a functional solution. Feminism, along with a couple other related "movements" are a mortal wound, and death blow, to modern society. It will not recover, it has gone too far. The collapse of "westernized" civilization is imminent. But I am old enough, late enough in life, I think I will be gone before it happens.

 

[SW15]

But I am old enough, late enough in life, I think I will be gone before it happens.

You're lucky at 58. At 38, I am not quite as lucky.

 

[biggoal]

Kinda related but Today did an interview with some of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers. Look at how these women have aged since the early 2000s. Only 2 of the 6 look decent still.