The dangers and potential destructiveness of anti-feminism

[Wyldfire]

As someone fully aware of how damaging the feminist movement has been on society, and men in particular, I am seeing a very disturbing trend on this forum. I am making this post not to offend or upset anyone...but in hopes of helping the men here realize the dangers of anti-feminism.

I once was the administrator of a very popular and busy gender issues forum. I started the forum because I noticed that everywhere these forums existed, men were routinely banned whenever the tried to post how they felt. That made me very angry so I made a place where men would not be banned, where feminists and men were able to confront each other and say whatever was on their mind. I did not censor and the only rules were no death threats, posting of illegal material or posting personal information.

What I noticed is that both men and women who get embroiled in this battle too deeply end up on the road to self destruction and madness. It's not pretty. The men who allowed themselves to get too wrapped up became much like the radical feminists they claimed to despise so. The behavior and attitudes were exactly the same. It was very, very ugly.

It is good for men to be aware of how feminism affects them. It is not good for them to build their life around looking for any little hint of feminism in every little part of their life.

I'm seeing a lot of cases where men on here are looking for feminism in everything. These guys are very negative in their posts and they seem pretty miserable.

Just like most men find feminists to be unappealing...women also find their male counterparts to be just as unappealing. It's no fun being around someone who is always looking for an excuse or reason to feel like a victim.

This is intended as a warning to those of you who are just learning about how feminism affects men in society. Take care not to cross the line between awareness and obsession. You do NOT want to become that which you dislike.

 

[Flogger]

Objectively, it might be a point worth considering.

But you're just going to be flamed...

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Flogger
Objectively, it might be a point worth considering.

But you're just going to be flamed...

The only ones who will flame me over this post are the ones who have crossed the line from concern and awareness to obsession, because it will hit a nerve.

If what I wrote makes even one guy think and recognize the dangers I mention, then it will be worth all the flames I'm liable to get.

Bottom line...if men respond to feminism with feminism like behavior and attitudes it only worsens the situation. It's better to resist the negative messages, point out politely to non-feminist women when they aren't being fair to men and not allow the negativity and frustration to turn into anger and hatred.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

And there is the signal starting the first round! :box:

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
And there is the signal starting the first round! :box:

I'm going to do my best to resist the urge to get into a flame war. This is a very important issue that is affecting this forum in a very negative way. And again, if it makes even one guy think...then it's worth any flaming I get.

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by ( . )( . )
Lady I didnt even read your original post.

Gee, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for you to jump in if you didn't even read the original post.

Not much logic in doing that, in my opinion.

 

[iveyleeger]

flamebait.

(no surprise she calls herself wyldfire)

 

[DJ_in_making]

Re: Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by ( . )( . )
Lady I didnt even read your original post.

Roflmao!!

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by iveyleeger
flamebait.

(no surprise she calls herself wyldfire)

No, it's not flamebait. It's a very valid and important topic.

There is too much anger, bitterness and hatred on this forum. I have noticed that there is a lot of guys who have become so deeply embroiled in being anti-feminist that they are actually acting just exactly like feminists. It's very disturbing and I really can't imagine that any man on here WANTS to look, act and sound like a feminist.

 

[DJ_in_making]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
No, it's not flamebait. It's a very valid and important topic.

There is too much anger, bitterness and hatred on this forum. I have noticed that there is a lot of guys who have become so deeply embroiled in being anti-feminist that they are actually acting just exactly like feminists. It's very disturbing and I really can't imagine that any man on here WANTS to look, act and sound like a feminist.

yea, and why did u feel the need to defend these feminists? Weren't u one of the characters Pook used in his anti-feminist example? I didn't hear u complaining about it back then.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by DJ_in_making
yea, and why did u feel the need to defend these feminists? Weren't u one of the characters Pook used in his anti-feminist example? I didn't hear u complaining about it back then.

Did you read the first post? I'm guessing that you didn't read it. I am in no way defending feminists. I am warning guys that if they become obsessed with opposing feminism beyond being concerned and aware that they tend to act and sound just like the feminists they are so offended by. Do you want to come across to women like feminists come across to you? I'm guessing that you don't. That is what this thread is about. It's a warning not to become an extremist.

 

[Grey Fox]

It will all balance itself out in the end. Those that can't let go of there anger for women will never be able to get there hands on the women they are after. You just have to accept it as a game, granted an unfair one at times but show me one that is.

-Grey Fox

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Grey Fox
It will all balance itself out in the end. Those that can't let go of there anger for women will never be able to get there hands on the women they are after. You just have to accept it as a game, granted an unfair one at times but show me one that is.

-Grey Fox

Perhaps it will...I'm just really concerned about what I'm seeing. How can a guy full of such anger and negativity be a fun guy that women want to spend time with? He can't be. The anger, bitterness and hatred are counterproductive and VERY unattractive emotional baggage to carry around.

 

[Spirit Fingers]

Lots of guys who aren't getting laid and can't get a girlfriend use all this anti-feminist stuff to mask their frustration, just as ugly women use feminism to mask theirs. It doesn't work, and it's very transparent.

-Dan

 

[Grey Fox]

Well since when did women ever like nice guys that were stable and emotionally sound?

-Grey Fox

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Spirit Fingers
Lots of guys who aren't getting laid and can't get a girlfriend use all this anti-feminist stuff to mask their frustration, just as ugly women use feminism to mask theirs. It doesn't work, and it's very transparent.

-Dan

Well, I don't think that's always the case. My best friend went through a period where he was pretty focused on hating on feminists. He still gets mad when a girl hits on him...even if she's pretty, lol. He's a wicked hottie who has no problem attracting women.

I think it comes from being hurt or screwed over by one woman and allowing their pain to fester into anger and eventually hatred. That will kill a person's soul if the don't let go of the nasty feelings.

 

[iveyleeger]

Wyld, how sweet, you are out to save all the bitter guys?

Or you casting men as losers who simply aren't as emotionally balanced as you are to boost your own self-esteem?

Btw, do you understand why your friend does that?

 

[DJ_in_making]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Well, I don't think that's always the case. My best friend went through a period where he was pretty focused on hating on feminists. He still gets mad when a girl hits on him...even if she's pretty, lol. He's a wicked hottie who has no problem attracting women.

I think it comes from being hurt or screwed over by one women and allowing their pain to fester into anger and eventually hatred. That will kill a person's soul if the don't let go of the nasty feelings.

not necessarily. I can't stand femenists, but it doesn't eat me up. And I'm still generally a cheerful person.:yes:

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Grey Fox
Well since when did women ever like nice guys that were stable and emotionally sound?

-Grey Fox

Honestly, how stable and emotionally sound a guy is or isn't doesn't determine how attractive he is to women. One thing is universal, though...anyone who casts a cloud of negativity everywhere they go (male or female) isn't someone ANYONE (male or female) wants to be around because they suck the life right out of everyone.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by iveyleeger
Wyld, how sweet, you are out to save all the bitter guys?

Or you casting men as losers who simply aren't as emotionally balanced as you are to boost your own self-esteem?

Btw, do you understand why your friend does that?

No, I'm not trying to "save bitter guys"...just trying to offer up some food for thought.

Men aren't supposed to be as emotional as women, why on earth would I try to portray a man as a loser just for being how he naturally is? I'm an anti-feminist woman. Let's face, it though...what we are seeing on this forum is NOT natural man behavior. To embrace victimhood and seek out reasons to get upset with the opposite sex is a behavior typically seen in women, NOT men. And frankly, some of what I see is just entirely irrational.

My self esteem is quite high all on it's own. I don't need to put anyone else down or try to make them lower to make myself feel better. That's juvenile behavior.

Yes, I know and understand why my friend does that. He doesn't care for aggressive, masculine women...or women with short hair, or ones who drive SUVs (unless they have a good reason). He's toned it down a great deal over the 5 years or so we've been friends. He doesn't hate women and he isn't angry...he just has his preferences.