The current dating market and how I see this century playing out

[Solomon]

Its a recipe for human extinction in developed countries. Or perhaps artificial reproduction will become accepted. You'll be able to order a factory made baby from Walgreens and have it teleported to your doorstep.

I also believe there will a group that resists and perhaps reverts back to old ways. The Amish population is something to pay attention to. They keep growing. Amish families produce 7 children on average.

I think with the housing crisis and inflation among other things. People will be moving back to the suburbs and boonies in their states and cities. Heck in my state people are moving further away from the city due to a rise in crime and homeless population explosion ever since covid19 started.I think Christianity and traditionalism will have a revival because of various reasons like OP said. The woke agenda has dominated society for 10 years or longer than that, and people are tired of it and starting to push back.

It's gonna be an instersting world to watch in the next 50 years

 

[sangheilios]

OP I've been aware of the rise of AI since 2019/2020ish, however I didn't start taking it seriosuly until Jan 2023. Since then I have delved into the rabbit hole just like you have hence your post resonates deeply with me.

I don't think people realize how fast things are changing. If people think Facebook/Uber/Online dating etc rose quickly in the early 2000's and 2010's. The advancement of AI is gonna rock people, here is what I expect. Here are some hyptotheticals that I think may happen

• 2030's Virtual assistant's will be the norm(think Jarvis or Friday in Ironman). Chatgpt will be the norm on your "Smart Satalite Blockchain Cellphone" AI will replace data entry jobs, accountant jobs. The medical field as you mentioned will make leaps and bounds with breakthroughs and medical advancements i.e. curing aids, certain cancers, etc
• 2040's AI robots will be more common they won't have full functionality like humans yet. You will see VR and Metaverse become more popular due to the increase in tech. Commerical real estate buildings are now 90% filled with clout servers. (currently most commerical real estate buildings are empty due to people working from home) also new tech allows for new different types of energy. That we haven't even thought of yet.
• 2050s Automation will be more common due to AI, AI girlfriends and the metaverse will be more common God forbid. The finacial sector and tech companies will be run by AI the wealth gap will get worse there will be no middle class just poor and wealthy. A gallon of milk will be a $1000. Where it use to cost you $10 to get into a club now it cost $10,000(and that's not VIP) people think this is nuts but if you have paid attention to the dollar losing 1/3rd of it's value in the last 3 years alone and at the rate that we are going what I'm saying is not far fetched if we continue at this rate!
• 2060s AI robotos can now fully function like humans and AI tech will explode, people will spend more time in the VR/Metaverse than offline due to the realizm of 16K. AI popstars/Actors are now becoming more popular than humans....

I'll stop there, what scares me OP is that people don't realize that with every PRO AI has there 5 cons. For example Privacy will not exist if you put a chip in your brain. They will be able to track you and monitor your every step. They know what you spend your money on due to CBDCs. People will spend more time in VR and Metaverse as tech continues to explode Anti-social behavior is the new norm. We already see this with Gen--Z and how they don't care to go out regarding nightlife (nothing wrong with that) however the better the tech becomes the more anti-social humans are becoming.

I've said this on here before, but the pandemic was what caused a massive shift in our society and things never really went back to the way they were. During this time period, many people became incredibly isolated and started spending more time on the internet, playing video games, etc. I totally agree with you about this metaverse/virtual reality world becoming a real thing for people, that at the end of the day is just a distraction from the real world. As I had alluded to earlier, I think a lot of the trends we've been seeing in Japan over the last decade or so are going to start becoming a reality in the west. Hell, there are already these vegetable men marrying anime characters and literally never leaving the house.

I like your idea that you mentioned about commercial buildings. I believe that the pandemic caused some very big changes in the manner in which the average American works. For decades it was people literally spending hours of their time each day commuting into their city to work at the office, in some metros it's not uncommon to spend 2+ hours per day doing this. Work from home has been around for a while but it wasn't the norm or that common. With COVID, we can see that it became the norm to work from home, with current technology of the internet, video chat, etc. there's really no reason for this not be a thing. Some positives of this are that people don't have to waste so much of their time commuting, that in itself is a huge benefit. Then they naturally save money on gas, train tickets or whatever. The local air quality becomes much better and there is less congestion on the roads. The one huge benefit that is overlooked though is that people don't have to live in or even near a major metro, they can start moving into more rural communities, smaller towns and cities, etc. This again has multiple benefits, real estate is typically cheaper when you move further away from major cities. I also think living in smaller towns is a more natural existence for humans and could be a stepping stone to more traditional lifestyles.

Elaborating on moving away from the city, there are many other things going on as well. Homelessness has been around forever but since the pandemic it's become completely out of control in many cities around the U.S. Wal Mart recently shut down all of it's stores in Portland, Oregon......which says a lot about how bad things are there. Who in their right mind would want to live in a city or area where these terrible people are running around wild in the streets doing whatever they please. In the metro I live in, just about all of the parks have been taken over and trashed by homeless people. A dad can't take his kids to go play soccer because of **** like that, which is horrible. No normal person would ever want to be around that. I think this is going to be a huge issue with the next election, it's insane how much things changed over the course of the pandemic. Again, this is yet another reason to move away from a city and into a smaller town or rural community.

We could further this discussion about specifically AI but what I've mentioned here are things that are happening in the here and now. Again, I see major shifts in our society in the coming decades.

 

[sangheilios]

Its a recipe for human extinction in developed countries. Or perhaps artificial reproduction will become accepted. You'll be able to order a factory made baby from Walgreens and have it teleported to your doorstep.

I also believe there will a group that resists and perhaps reverts back to old ways. The Amish population is something to pay attention to. They keep growing. Amish families produce 7 children on average.

I have a feeling that artificially selecting for certain traits may become a real thing. I'm talking stuff like height, eye color, intelligence, etc. It's almost like a eugenics program where certain traits are being artificially selected for. I remember reading this article a while ago where the writer was trying to argue that aborting down syndrome fetuses was genocide. It was an interesting idea but a society is only as fit as the people within it. This is reminding me of the Nazi selective breeding and eugenics program but this was also something the rest of the west engage in during the first half of the 20th century and even into the 50s and 60s. It was the norm to sterilize retarded and mentally ill people. Planned parenthood has some ties with eugenics as well.....very deep stuff.

I totally agree with your comment about the Amish, it was why I mentioned them earlier in this thread. They aren't intentionally resisting but just living their lives. Again, I think more traditional values are going to become a trend down the road and given enough time these are the only ones who will be reproducing, assuming we take out artificial pregnancies, births, etc.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Man, you live in Arizona and you're talking about elections, @sangheilios? We're not going to make it a single decade, let alone several, without the deep state planning another 9/11 or pandemic or similarly traumatizing event.

 

[sangheilios]

I think with the housing crisis and inflation among other things. People will be moving back to the suburbs and boonies in their states and cities. Heck in my state people are moving further away from the city due to a rise in crime and homeless population explosion ever since covid19 started.I think Christianity and traditionalism will have a revival because of various reasons like OP said. The woke agenda has dominated society for 10 years or longer than that, and people are tired of it and starting to push back.

It's gonna be an instersting world to watch in the next 50 years

Exactly, I touched on this with my last reply to you. Look at how much the population of CA has changed since the pandemic. California is an interesting example, it's literally just going to be populated by homeless people and the underclass and then by the mega wealthy who can afford just about anything. Look at Oakland, CA for instance or San Francisco. San Francisco literally came out with a public department that was tasked with cleaning up human waste in the street, this includes excrement but also needles, etc. That shows you just how bad things are there if they need to create a department for that lol.

 

[sangheilios]

Man, you live in Arizona and you're talking about elections, @sangheilios?

Who said anything about election fortitude? What I'm saying is that homeless is going to be a major issue on people's minds in many of these metros. Elections aren't really the main topic of this conversation anyway. Humans will still be around for decades and centuries to come.

 

[Solomon]

Things are moving faster than I thought, my advice buy AI stocks, AI crypto, it's gonna explode lmfao

 

[SargeMaximus]

Things are moving faster than I thought, my advice buy AI stocks, AI crypto, it's gonna explode lmfao

Already did bro. You too late

 

[The Duke]

Maybe this will bring the average females price down? Make things more attainable for the average male.

 

[Solomon]

It's gonna get worse, will AI Robots be the death of Redpill? make no mistake modern men will embrace it, if they are embracing onlyfans they surely will embrace this

Dark days ahead yikes

 

[patb]

Dont

It's gonna get worse, will AI Robots be the death of Redpill? make no mistake modern men will embrace it, if they are embracing onlyfans they surely will embrace this

Dark days ahead yikes

Seems like a white pill to me. If I live for anything at this point it’s to see the ***** cartel/goddess cult cast down and despoiled.

 

[Solomon]

Dont


Seems like a white pill to me. If I live for anything at this point it’s to see the ***** cartel/goddess cult cast down and despoiled.

Whats the goddess cult? is that a new Tik Tok movement? I'm asking seriously cause I ain't never heard of it

 

[patb]

Whats the goddess cult? is that a new Tik Tok movement? I'm asking seriously cause I ain't never heard of it

That would be the animating belief of American society; the uncritical worship of women and their power, privilege and license.

 

[sangheilios]

It's gonna get worse, will AI Robots be the death of Redpill? make no mistake modern men will embrace it, if they are embracing onlyfans they surely will embrace this

Dark days ahead yikes

This **** reminds me of the "relationship" Master Chief has with Cortana, an AI, lol. I think a lot of this weird stuff we see in Japan of young men marrying anime characters and other stuff is a glimpse into what the future holds. Basically, look to Japan to see some trends that will start popping up in the west a couple decades later.

Eventually, this might get to where there are actual robots that you can have sex with, it may even be so advanced that it literally looks, feels and smells like the real thing. Crazy stuff lol and all of this stuff is going to lead to what I discussed with the original post of this thread.

 

[Solomon]

‘Nudify’ Apps That Use AI to ‘Undress’ Women in Photos Are Soaring in Popularity

It’s part of a worrying trend of non-consensual “deepfake” pornography being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence.

time.com

Apps that use artificial intelligence to undress women are part of a worrying trend of non-consensual pornography being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence.imaginima—Getty Images/iStock

BY MARGI MURPHY / BLOOMBERG
UPDATED: DECEMBER 8, 2023 8:10 PM EST | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: DECEMBER 8, 2023 1:55 AM EST

Apps and websites that use artificial intelligence to undress women in photos are soaring in popularity, according to researchers.

In September alone, 24 million people visited undressing websites, the social network analysis company Graphika found.

Many of these undressing, or “nudify,” services use popular social networks for marketing, according to Graphika. For instance, since the beginning of this year, the number of links advertising undressing apps increased more than 2,400% on social media, including on X and Reddit, the researchers said. The services use AI to recreate an image so that the person is nude. Many of the services only work on women.

Read More: Pausing AI Developments Isn’t Enough. We Need to Shut It All Down

These apps are part of a worrying trend of non-consensual pornography being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence — a type of fabricated media known as deepfake pornography. Its proliferation runs into serious legal and ethical hurdles, as the images are often taken from social media and distributed without the consent, control or knowledge of the subject.

The rise in popularity corresponds to the release of several open source diffusion models, or artificial intelligence that can create images that are far superior to those created just a few years ago, Graphika said. Because they are open source, the models that the app developers use are available for free.

“You can create something that actually looks realistic,” said Santiago Lakatos, an analyst at Graphika, noting that previous deepfakes were often blurry.

One image posted to X advertising an undressing app used language that suggests customers could create nude images and then send them to the person whose image was digitally undressed, inciting harassment. One of the apps, meanwhile, has paid for sponsored content on Google’s YouTube, and appears first when searching with the word “nudify.”

A Google spokesperson said the company doesn’t allow ads “that contain sexually explicit content.”

“We’ve reviewed the ads in question and are removing those that violate our policies,” the company said.

A Reddit spokesperson said the site prohibits any non-consensual sharing of faked sexually explicit material and had banned several domains as a result of the research. X didn’t respond to a request for comment.

In addition to the rise in traffic, the services, some of which charge $9.99 a month, claim on their websites that they are attracting a lot of customers. “They are doing a lot of business,” Lakatos said. Describing one of the undressing apps, he said, “If you take them at their word, their website advertises that it has more than a thousand users per day.”

Non-consensual pornography of public figures has long been a scourge of the internet, but privacy experts are growing concerned that advances in AI technology have made deepfake software easier and more effective.

“We are seeing more and more of this being done by ordinary people with ordinary targets,” said Eva Galperin, director of cybersecurity at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. “You see it among high school children and people who are in college.”

Many victims never find out about the images, but even those who do may struggle to get law enforcement to investigate or to find funds to pursue legal action, Galperin said.

Read More: The Heated Debate Over Who Should Control Access to AI

There is currently no federal law banning the creation of deepfake pornography, though the U.S. government does outlaw generation of these kinds of images of minors. In November, a North Carolina child psychiatrist was sentenced to 40 years in prison for using undressing apps on photos of his patients, the first prosecution of its kind under law banning deepfake generation of child sexual abuse material.

TikTok has blocked the keyword “undress,” a popular search term associated with the services, warning anyone searching for the word that it “may be associated with behavior or content that violates our guidelines,” according to the app. A TikTok representative declined to elaborate. In response to questions, Meta Platforms Inc. also began blocking key words associated with searching for undressing apps. A spokesperson declined to comment.

 

[MatureDJ]

I've been noticing a trend on youtube where a lot of channels are popping up that are dedicated to the issues that young men are facing in the current dating market. I've also noticed that these channels are attracting a lot of attention, something you can see with their view counts, and this shows that men are relating to what is being discussed. I've also seen this trend even spilling over into mainstream media recently, such as the stat where 2/3 of men being single and these numbers being discussed on a news channel.

The millennial generation has for a long time now been adults in the dating market and gen zs are starting to enter it now. I believe that the issue where young men are struggling to even get a date, let alone a gf, is going to be a trend that is here to stay that will have quite severe consequences for society. I feel a really good view on how things will play out in America is to look at places like Japan.

A large number of men are literally being told by women that they aren't good enough, essentially being rejected by society. I believe that given enough of these experiences and the right set of circumstances you will see these men check out entirely. You'll definitely see some mental health issues with this, such as an increased use in anti depressants, anxiety medication, etc. However, I feel the bigger impact will be men that will focus on enjoying their own lives as they see fit. This will vary depending upon the individual, but some negative things would be gambling, excessive video game use, drug use, alcohol, etc. Draft Kings is a great example, this took off starting from the time of the Pandemic and is no legal in many states. You might see men that believe there is little incentive to put extra effort into anything and they essentially do the bare minimum. What's the point of busting your ass at some job or grinding through a difficult degree program when it doesn't make a difference. You basically have a pool of men that will just get by in life because they know nothing they do matters.

I also believe that many factors outside of the dating market as a whole are at play as well. I believe the rapid increase in housing prices is a huge buffer for mating. I also believe that the current woke culture is a detriment to many things but with the dating market being one of them. Stuff like this just further isolates people and draws them inward. I believe that the COVID pandemic and the lockdowns accelerated this trend towards isolation.

I believe that much of what we are seeing is the actual panning out of a population collapse in the developed world. In East Asia it's already been a slow trend for a long time that is now starting to show itself, we can even see these nations panicking about their demographic future. However, we can see a much more severe case of this in the former Soviet bloc countries in Eastern Europe, which have lost significant portions of their populations since the fall of the iron curtain. The U.S and western Europe will temporarily be immune to this due to immigration, but I believe this will not make much of a difference. We are going to see a rapidly aging population where fewer and fewer children are being born.

The higher powers in the world are quite aware of this major demographic change that is on the way. Elon Musk has discussed this issue and it's something that is secretly a concern of many nations. AI technology and automation are naturally already on the way, but I expect a heavy investment into these fields due to the eventual dwindling of the working age population. The technology isn't quite there yet, but by the middle of this century I believe it will be quite advanced. This will undoubtedly bring tremendous changes to society as a whole, though it's hard to imagine how this will play out exactly.

While this all sounds like doom and gloom, I think there is something else that will come from this. I believe that down the road more conservative and traditional values are going to take hold. The west is in a cultural mess due to this woke nonsense but I believe that this is a phase that we are going through. I believe that the younger generations are slowly starting to reject this nonsense and seeing it for what it is. Political leanings are often based on personality and temperament, qualities that have a strong genetic link. I see the more liberal minded individuals essentially not reproducing at all and those along more conservative lines having children. Think about those that go to church or grow up in more traditional family settings, these are the ones that will have children. The man that is a feminist or self sterilizes himself by thinking he is a woman will not have children. I believe that as the century progresses we will see a shift towards this, though not before we see a tremendous decline in population.

The great thing about Evolution is that it ALWAYS wins. The genome of chicks not having kids because they can't hook a Chad - and don't get Chad's sperm at a fertility clinic - will die out, leaving only the genome of chicks that did have kids. Soon enough, there will only be chicks with the genome of prior chicks that wanted kids so much that they were able to avoid the meme of hypergamy, and the fertility rate will get back to a more normal trend.

And yes, the more religious folks will outbreed the heathens - and even the more conservative secularists will outbreed since they see their progeny as the proper place to spend their wealth on, as opposed to have it be taxed so that others' spawn enjoys the fruits. That said, I think that eventually what is left (pun NOT intended) of the Left will have passed through this genetic bottle, and so they will be Leftists that like to breed.

 

[MatureDJ]

‘Nudify’ Apps That Use AI to ‘Undress’ Women in Photos Are Soaring in Popularity

It’s part of a worrying trend of non-consensual “deepfake” pornography being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence.

time.com

Apps that use artificial intelligence to undress women are part of a worrying trend of non-consensual pornography being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence.imaginima—Getty Images/iStock

BY MARGI MURPHY / BLOOMBERG
UPDATED: DECEMBER 8, 2023 8:10 PM EST | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: DECEMBER 8, 2023 1:55 AM EST

Apps and websites that use artificial intelligence to undress women in photos are soaring in popularity, according to researchers.

In September alone, 24 million people visited undressing websites, the social network analysis company Graphika found.

Many of these undressing, or “nudify,” services use popular social networks for marketing, according to Graphika. For instance, since the beginning of this year, the number of links advertising undressing apps increased more than 2,400% on social media, including on X and Reddit, the researchers said. The services use AI to recreate an image so that the person is nude. Many of the services only work on women.

Read More: Pausing AI Developments Isn’t Enough. We Need to Shut It All Down

These apps are part of a worrying trend of non-consensual pornography being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence — a type of fabricated media known as deepfake pornography. Its proliferation runs into serious legal and ethical hurdles, as the images are often taken from social media and distributed without the consent, control or knowledge of the subject.

The rise in popularity corresponds to the release of several open source diffusion models, or artificial intelligence that can create images that are far superior to those created just a few years ago, Graphika said. Because they are open source, the models that the app developers use are available for free.

“You can create something that actually looks realistic,” said Santiago Lakatos, an analyst at Graphika, noting that previous deepfakes were often blurry.

One image posted to X advertising an undressing app used language that suggests customers could create nude images and then send them to the person whose image was digitally undressed, inciting harassment. One of the apps, meanwhile, has paid for sponsored content on Google’s YouTube, and appears first when searching with the word “nudify.”

A Google spokesperson said the company doesn’t allow ads “that contain sexually explicit content.”

“We’ve reviewed the ads in question and are removing those that violate our policies,” the company said.

A Reddit spokesperson said the site prohibits any non-consensual sharing of faked sexually explicit material and had banned several domains as a result of the research. X didn’t respond to a request for comment.

In addition to the rise in traffic, the services, some of which charge $9.99 a month, claim on their websites that they are attracting a lot of customers. “They are doing a lot of business,” Lakatos said. Describing one of the undressing apps, he said, “If you take them at their word, their website advertises that it has more than a thousand users per day.”

Non-consensual pornography of public figures has long been a scourge of the internet, but privacy experts are growing concerned that advances in AI technology have made deepfake software easier and more effective.

“We are seeing more and more of this being done by ordinary people with ordinary targets,” said Eva Galperin, director of cybersecurity at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. “You see it among high school children and people who are in college.”

Many victims never find out about the images, but even those who do may struggle to get law enforcement to investigate or to find funds to pursue legal action, Galperin said.

Read More: The Heated Debate Over Who Should Control Access to AI

There is currently no federal law banning the creation of deepfake pornography, though the U.S. government does outlaw generation of these kinds of images of minors. In November, a North Carolina child psychiatrist was sentenced to 40 years in prison for using undressing apps on photos of his patients, the first prosecution of its kind under law banning deepfake generation of child sexual abuse material.

TikTok has blocked the keyword “undress,” a popular search term associated with the services, warning anyone searching for the word that it “may be associated with behavior or content that violates our guidelines,” according to the app. A TikTok representative declined to elaborate. In response to questions, Meta Platforms Inc. also began blocking key words associated with searching for undressing apps. A spokesperson declined to comment.

I think these NudeBots need to have a photo of the gal so that her body surface locus can be determined for use in this virtual undressing. If a chick only walks around in Muslim gown attire, there will be no way to discern this locus, and thus no way to do a virtual undressing. OTOH, a bikini photo will be extraordinarily easy to do.

 

[MatureDJ]

I don't think the Chinese are going to dominate this century like people believe. They are a rapidly aging population with a declining rate of fertility that is showing no signs of slowing down. Their population has been decreasing for a few years now and it's believed that they have no been replaced by India as the largest population on the planet. They also have a significant male-female gap due to the one child policy that was in place until not that long ago, which has left millions of men as lifelong bachelors.

I agree about your comments related to how universities have been hijaked by the leftists. I believe that people are starting to wake up and will beging boycotting college. College is just a scam to take money from people and people are now realizing that they are paying tens of thousands of dollars for a degree that is useless.

Boycotting college is like a regular Joe "boycotting" Mercedes-Benz because he doesn't have the cash to splurge on it.

 

[MatureDJ]

I saw a stat a few months ago that showed the Amish were one of the fastest growing demographic groups in the U.S. They are traditionally based in PA, but I saw something a long time ago about them wanting to create colonies in the western part of the U.S, I believe Montana was one of them.

I'm not a religious person, but what I'm getting at is that those who are more conservative minded will be those that reproduce at a much higher rate compared to the current more liberal minded individuals. Conservatism is correlated with church going, I really shouldn't have to explain why that is. These are the individuals that will have children, not those who are obsessed with trans rights, feminism, etc.

The average Amish family has 10 kids, where only 2 of them leave the community, so that's a quadrupling of the community every generation. Eventually, the mathematics of exponential growth will conquer all.

 

[MatureDJ]

I'm sure Gen-Xers such as myself and @MatureDJ would argue that going to an all boys high school is to blame rather than technology.

It makes it more difficult, simply for not having the normal Social Circles that are available at a coeducational school - although that said, women who had gone to a sex-segregated school also have worse Social Circles, and the fact that both a man & woman had gone to such schools makes them have a memetic commonality. What it is really bad for are for those men that don't have any natural PUA awareness - these guys are pretty much are only going to get action when it is served up on a plate. I know someone that was in this category, and when he hit his 40s, his extensive male social circle from his pub-crawling were serving him harridans (friends of their wives, etc.), and eventually one that was not a single mommy, nor screwed up in the head got thrown on his plate, and he ended up marrying her (he considered the single mommies to be harem plates).