The cognitive dissonance of women is astounding

[christie]

But see when I speak up about not liking being called that, I got shamed by not only women but some men too. I got called immature and all, so why would a guy ever speak up about something he didn’t like when he knows he’s going to get jumped on? And people say “make your intentions clear!”, and when a guy does it’s “oh all you want is sex, get away fvck boi!”. I get told I’m overreacting but I’m not, I have a right now to want to be referred to as that stuff. Some might call it immature but others see where I’m coming from.

Man, don't give up. Fvck those people AND the horses they rode in on that attempted to make you feel bad

I remember some of your posts from earlier this year and I agree with you that men/women can't be friends.
Maybe its hard for both genders to tell the truth but its vital to remain healthy.
Please don't let some people attempting to shame you for your truth, stop you from telling it.

I appreciate that you made me rethink that 'just like family' phrase. I'm going to be more cautious now.

 

[christie]

Men should make a move quickly to avoid these situations in the first place.

"Like family" is just a weasel word way of saying "I don't find you attractive". I think most men would prefer being told the truth rather than being lied to.

I agree and yes, I guess it is weaselly. Best to say f.a.

 

[bat soup]

No you’re right. The girl that told me that expected me to spend holidays with her and **** like that. Why the hell would I? In all honesty it made me not want to be around her because it made me uncomfortable. I mean, yeah I positioned myself to be in that spot somehow but how come no other girl has ever done that to me? Usually you have to make a mistake several times before you realize it’s something you did, but like I said, it never happened again and I don’t think I made any drastic changes about myself or the way I acted. Now, if 4 girls in a row were all like “you’re like family to me” then I would KNOW I was doing something wrong, but it was just that one time and it scarred me. It’s something I can’t laugh off and it’s affected me from getting close to women on an emotional level no matter what. Hell I won’t even meet a girls parents and family now unless we are sleeping together because I’m afraid of being family zoned again.

LOL I'll have to write a new book called Family Zone.

But really I wouldn't be too concerned about what words women use to reject you. Either they're interested or not and, if not, then the best thing you can do is to immediately stop paying attention to them and move on.

 

[Robert28]

A woman can also put you into the “romantic zone” and still reject you. They blow smoke up your @ss and tell you how you’re such a great guy and any girl would be lucky to have you. They might even look at you longingly from across the room. But that’s as far as it goes.

When it comes to seduction, the only thing that matters is physical escalation. I don’t care what the hell the chick says. If I close the distance and place my hand on her lower back and brush my crotch up against her thigh and she reacts negatively, I’m turning around and getting the fvck out of there and continuing with my regularly scheduled program.

Touching a woman and seeing how she reacts cuts through all manipulation.

I’ve had women pretend to hate me react positively to physical escalation. And I’ve had women singing my praises react negatively when I tried to escalate.

If the physical relationship between you and her isn’t escalating, you don’t have anything. You are just part of her ego validation ecosystem.

#metoo and false sexual harassment charges have stopped guys from being that aggressive anymore. You stand too much to lose this day and age.

 

[Robert28]

LOL I'll have to write a new book called Family Zone.

But really I wouldn't be too concerned about what words women use to reject you. Either they're interested or not and, if not, then the best thing you can do is to immediately stop paying attention to them and move on.

The family zone is the level of friendzone no one wants to talk about.lol

 

[backseatjuan]

“Like family” means he orbiting around and ho saving their ho, white knights ptotect the puntang so that nobody fs it, alas like family.

Interactions with women is not facts or logics it is invoking their emotions. So with this in mind, good reaponse “like family you say, he protecting you yea? I bet he wants to f you, what you think of fing him?” Noooo he is like brother to me, ewww. “Well then, I’m a stranger, what aboit fing me, I’m not your fing family.”

When btches bring sht like that they reallymean you. She it was you shetalked about, 99% sure.

 

[Robert28]

“Like family” means he orbiting around and ho saving their ho, white knights ptotect the puntang so that nobody fs it, alas like family.

Interactions with women is not facts or logics it is invoking their emotions. So with this in mind, good reaponse “like family you say, he protecting you yea? I bet he wants to f you, what you think of fing him?” Noooo he is like brother to me, ewww. “Well then, I’m a stranger, what aboit fing me, I’m not your fing family.”

When btches bring sht like that they reallymean you. She it was you shetalked about, 99% sure.

Well I never considered myself an orbiter to her but maybe I was. I guess I never thought of myself that way because at school she would sit with me and my friends at lunch, I wasn’t going out of my way to sit with her, when we’d hangout once a week outside of school she was initiating it 90% of the time. I was never around her giving other guys the “death stare” or anything like that. Now when summer came I did hangout with her a good bit because she had a pool. I didn’t mind orbiting for that lol

 

[Atom Smasher]

“You’re like family” is figurative castration. It’s an inoculation against the possibility of sexual escalation.

In other words, “Game Over”; Unless you want to try to change her mind, but to that I say, “Why bother?”

 

[Robert28]

“You’re like family” is figurative castration. It’s an inoculation against the possibility of sexual escalation.

In other words, “Game Over”; Unless you want to try to change her mind, but to that I say, “Why bother?”

I need to come up with some clever wording to attack women’s self esteem and hurt their ego in the nicest way possible. Two can play that mind fvck.

 

[bat soup]

A woman can also put you into the “romantic zone” and still reject you. They blow smoke up your @ss and tell you how you’re such a great guy and any girl would be lucky to have you. They might even look at you longingly from across the room. But that’s as far as it goes.

When it comes to seduction, the only thing that matters is physical escalation. I don’t care what the hell the chick says. If I close the distance and place my hand on her lower back and brush my crotch up against her thigh and she reacts negatively, I’m turning around and getting the fvck out of there and continuing with my regularly scheduled program.

Touching a woman and seeing how she reacts cuts through all manipulation.

I’ve had women pretend to hate me react positively to physical escalation. And I’ve had women singing my praises react negatively when I tried to escalate.

If the physical relationship between you and her isn’t escalating, you don’t have anything. You are just part of her ego validation ecosystem.

I agree 100%. Actually it's funny how some women will say they like you but not want to escalate whilst others will say "we're just friends etc" but comply with the escalation or even start it themselves.

In either case action is what matters, not words.

 

[Robert28]

They know it too. A lot of women will keep you in the friendzone without saying something that emasculating. There are alternate methods like ignoring your escalations, mentioning other guys shes dating, or "youre not my type."

Never had those experiences the two times I’ve even friendzoned. To be honest, both women treated it EXACTLY like a relationship....just with no sex. They might mention an ex every now and then in a negative way but nothing regularly, flirting was still there (one girl flirted more than the other, the second one sorta phased it out), they expected you to do boyfriend ****, they never really aired out their problems to me so I never felt like an emotional tampon really, never got told “wish I could find a guy like you” or anything like that, both got jealous as hell when I mentioned dating someone else or even liking someone else, they might have been dating other guys but they never mentioned them because I think they knew I’d drop them.

 

[redskinsfan92]

I pointed this out and of course they gave the old standby “you know not everything has to be about sex! If a guy doesn’t want to be friends with me because I consider him like family then he was just after sex and I’m better off not having guys in my life like that!”. I rolled my eyes. It’s like rejecting the guy isn’t enough, they want to take his masculinity away too and appear aloof while doing it.

"You know, not everyone has to be friends! If a girl doesn't want to have sex because she'd rather get free attention then I'm better off not having girls like that in my life."

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Communication is everything, she doesn't have to understand what you are saying, but you have to understand her, not by listening to her, but by watching her; the words are not even half the story, if any of it.