The Book Recommendation thread

[Igetit!]

I've read several books since I've been on this journey.


Like one of the other posters said,"innergame" is the key.


It's funny because I originally started buying and reading material to try to understand women,but in the process,I discovered that I was the problem.



You're right Yaboi,women are mirrors. All they do is show us ourselves,whether that be the progress we've made,or the lack thereof.




I've read several books,but the one ABOVE ALL that's helped me more than another is a book called,"How to Succeed With Women" by Ron Louis and David Copeland.


I bought it a few years ago,and that one book helped me more than any other book had up until that time.



I literally went out into the field and had instant positive interactions with girls. The difference in the reactions I got from women were like night and day.



It was almost as if they were speaking to a different person when I approached them.



The book is mix of innergame and understanding behavior that universally common among women.


It's a book that I believe would be helpful.

 

[YAboi]

I've read several books since I've been on this journey.


Like one of the other posters said,"innergame" is the key.


It's funny because I originally started buying and reading material to try to understand women,but in the process,I discovered that I was the problem.


You're right Yaboi,women are mirrors. All they do is show us ourselves,whether that be the progress we've made,or the lack thereof.


I literally went out into the field and had instant positive interactions with girls. The difference in the reactions I got from women were like night and day.

It was almost as if they were speaking to a different person when I approached them.

Man I tell you its like my game is on steroids now since I have learnt assertiveness, I have hb9's getting all nervous around me the same way I used to with them and get like 30 IOIs when I go out daily. The question now that remains to be answered is when next will I fvck ? and I think the answer is very soon. As soon as I choose to.......


just look out for a lay report (lol)

 

[YAboi]

More Book Reviews

I have just discovered an ingenus way to write book reviews, just check the contents page and list it then, add anything you feel may be important to be said in your review about the books reading experience! go figure....


Overcoming social anxiety and shyness

This book is the one i READ after reading hold your head up high . Hold your head up high had put me on a major high about life but this book totally dropped it. That doesn't mean this book is bad, it just means that it was a very difficult read and I read it the wrong way.

The book takes you to a dark place by causing you to remember ways in which shy people mess up but I think it is valuable for being able to identify low value behaviours but if u learn how to be assertive and work on your inner game , the problem of shyness fixes itself. Also I made themistake of underlining important parts in the book and it took me ages to finish.

My verdict would be don't spend money on this unless you care to learn more about shyness but in my opinion the only books you need are by Paul Hauck and they are - How to stand up for yourself and how to do what you want to do. They will transform you into a MEAN machine. I know before I recommended some other books as being the best buys but since reading these I have reveiwed my decision.

How to be your own best friend by Dr Paul Hauck

This book teaches you how to be a self interested person.It touches on a lot of issues which include
It defines self neglect, how to think for yourself,faulty thinking, controlling yourself,assertion of oneself, friendship and social skills, health and wealth and holding your head high.

Buy it if u need any insight on self interest.

10 steps to positive living by Dr windy dryden

This one teaches you to assume personal responsibility, adopt a non-demanding,flexible philosophy, to accept reality, develop high frustration tolerance,develop a healthy attitude towards oneself, allow yourself to experience healthy negative emotions, think critically and creatively , develop and pursue vitally absorbing interests,improve your relationship with others and develop a realistic outlook and personal change.

How to stand up for yourself by dr Paul HAuck

This book has changed my life by teaching me assertiveness because when I handled my innergame with hold your head up high, I was still a nice guy because I was afraid of hurting others feelings by standing up for myself .The book helped me unlearn that.

The book touches on;
being nice to a fault, the five coward makers, excuses and rationalisations for not asserting yourself, the moment of truth when you are faced with a situation in real life that needs you to be assertive and being just reasonably content.


How to do what you want to do by Dr paul hauck

This book shows you that its okay to mess up during your attempts at trying to learn a skill and it focuses on self-discipline . It touches on;

examples of self-disciplined people,why its so easy to give up and three obstacles to self-discipline. Its life changing as it cures approach anxiety for good.


Supercoach by Michael neill

contents

A different way to succeed,The art and science of make-believe,you were born happy,the problem with goals, the simple way to make decisions,rainy days and mondays, have an average day,listening made fun,how to ask for anything from anyone, the secret to a lifetime of financial security and the power of hope.

Jealousy by Paul HAUCK

I have not read this yet

Contents

What is jealousy,your own jealousy,becoming a superlover, other people's jealousy.

Think your way to happiness by Dr windy dryden and jack gordon

I have not read this yet

contents

basic ideas, anxiety and worry,depression,guilt,anger and hostility,love problems,shame and embarrassment,problems of self-discipline,staying emotionally healthy.


Depression by Dr Paul Hauck

I have not read this yet

contents


a new look at depression,self-blame,emotional problems,self-pity,other-pity


Why be afraid by Dr Paul Hauck

I have not read this yet

contents

a glance at our most common fears,the physchology of fear,the real cause of fear,neurotic characteristics of fear,overcoming fears, pitfalls to recovery, putting it all together.


Assertiveness step by step by Dr Windy Dryden and Daniel ConstantinouI have not read this yet

contents

what is assertion?, dealing with your fears of assertion,learn to identify and question unhealthy and healthy beliefs, specific skills in assertion coaching,assertion of positive emotion,adapting your assertion to the person, assertion in specific areas of your life, how to implement and maintain your philosophy and practice of assertion.

Thats all folks. Good luck to you all........

 

[KontrollerX]

http://tinyurl.com/ykf9pdl

Its not what happens to you, its what you do about it by W. Mitchell

-Inspiring story of a man who could never be defeated. Horribly burned and then paralyzed years later he overcame the pain of all of that and has been a successful motivational speaker for many years. His cvnt of a wife left him after he got burned up but he didn't let that stop him and had even more relationships after that was over, then he learned to fly and was successful in politics becoming the mayor I believe of his small town community, eventually a crash landing due to frost on the wings of his plane or some such left his passengers injured and he paralyzed from the waist down but again even that could not keep him down for long. His main message to people is that "Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional".

http://tinyurl.com/yjt3vvm

Awaken the Giant Within by Tony Robbins

-The main benefit I find in Tony's work is helping people discover different ways of thinking about things that have happened to them and new ways to approach and look at situations that you may never of thought of yourself. He's a good coach or teacher in that regard and thats what I get out of him personally. I don't find much use for the NLP or NAC aspect as others do. What I value in his work is the coaching and mind expanding teaching that he provides. He can help young dumbass guys (which we all were at one point) think outside the box a bit and thats important I believe for helping to expand one's success quicker than you can with status quo thinking.

http://tinyurl.com/yka48ja

The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar

-Every Sosuaver should be issued a copy of this book in PDF or physical format upon signing up here but alas we don't live in a perfect world so that is not to be. Still though any guy that wants to know the truth about women from an anti feminist woman (who received death threats from feminists for writing this book) who knows the score needs to pick up a copy of this book. Its required reading for the man that wants to be the most informed he can be about women to stamp out any remaining traces of AFC female sympathizer within themselves.

http://tinyurl.com/yjgus9y

48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene

-See the definition for The Manipulated Man and keep in mind as you read this book you are reading all the games women will use on you and other men and some they may have yet to learn about, also remember they care not a bit about using these games on you as they care nothing about traditional morality in regards to relationships which means you have no obligation to follow any morals yourself when dealing with women on a relationship/romantic/intimate level. So what I'm saying basically is use all these games on women without guilt and if you think I'm wrong about anything I've just said chances are you don't have much life experience yet or are overinvested in the "quality woman" myth. Once you get over your need to believe in that myth you'll have a much better time understanding and dealing with women on their amoral level.

http://tinyurl.com/yzqf8r9

"Bret Hart my real life in the cartoon world of wrestling"

-Although not a seduction book I place it here because this man was one of my role models growing up and one of the reasons I think I have been able to bounce back from so many bad times in my life since thats part of the strong example he set for me with his career and his life in general. Reading this book I think will benefit even non wrestling fans as Bret's life has been filled with hilarity, heartbreak, triumph and tragedy and triumph once again. What Bret is, is a survivor of life's harshest moments and also yet another man that refuses to be defeated.

 

[YAboi]

http://tinyurl.com/ykf9pdl

Its not what happens to you, its what you do about it by W. Mitchell

-Inspiring story of a man who could never be defeated. Horribly burned and then paralyzed years later he overcame the pain of all of that and has been a successful motivational speaker for many years. His cvnt of a wife left him after he got burned up but he didn't let that stop him and had even more relationships after that was over, then he learned to fly and was successful in politics becoming the mayor I believe of his small town community, eventually a crash landing due to frost on the wings of his plane or some such left his passengers injured and he paralyzed from the waist down but again even that could not keep him down for long. His main message to people is that "Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional".



"Bret Hart my real life in the cartoon world of wrestling"

-Although not a seduction book I place it here because this man was one of my role models growing up and one of the reasons I think I have been able to bounce back from so many bad times in my life since thats part of the strong example he set for me with his career and his life in general. Reading this book I think will benefit even non wrestling fans as Bret's life has been filled with hilarity, heartbreak, triumph and tragedy and triumph once again. What Bret is, is a survivor of life's harshest moments and also yet another man that refuses to be defeated.

man these two reveiws of yours almost brought a tear to my left eye.........almost.

Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess that your star sign is aries just like mine ..............your writing style gives it away, i wonder if im right.

 

[DJCorleone]

bumping the thread, only because i love reading and have got some great books from this thread alone

God is a Woman is fantastic, easy to read, funny etc

No More Mr Nice Guy is repetitive but it drills it points into you however it is aimed at 'chronic nice guys' which i wouldnt say i was anyway but still nice read

I've also got Hold Your Head Up High and the Art Of Seduction but haven't read them yet.

Anyone got any more recommendations?

 

[Unbridled_Phoenix]

1. Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. The original bible of self-determinism, it is the wise old grandfather of every self-help (I hate that term!) book ever written.

2. As a Man Thinketh by James Allen. An oldie but a goodie, it drives home the message once again that it is your THOUGHTS and nothing else that make or break you.

3. Ziglar on Selling by Zig Ziglar. Even if you are not a sales professional, make no mistake, EVERYBODY IS A SALESMAN. Ziglar's sales philosophy is based upon the saying "You can have everything you want in life if you can help enough other people get what they want." Sales is typically thought of as a manipulative profession, but typical thoughts are typically wrong. I struggled with that thought in my sales career, as I do have cognitive dissonance issues with trying to manipulate people to get their money. His philosophy introduced me to the salesman I want to become.

4. The Prophet by Khalil Gibran. This book is so good, so powerful, so eloquent, that I feel incapable of describing its grandeur. The premise is, a man regarded as a Prophet is leaving his town, and as he's saying goodbye to the people, they seek his wisdom one last time. Every chapter begins with someone asking him about some facet of the human condition (Love, Fear, Good and Evil, Buying and Selling, Religion, Death, Friendship, etc.) and his subsequent discourse is absolutely priceless. If I could take one book to a deserted island, this would be it.

5. Catch 22 by Joseph Heller. I have never seen a depiction of the human character so vivid and true.

I know there are others. As they come to me I will revisit this thread.

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Here is my Top Five:

The Art of Wordly Wisdom - Baltasar Gracian

A more polished "48 laws of power" and deeper one. It´s AWESOME.

48 Laws of power - R Greene

This really opened my eyes about what goes on around us. About appearances, about power plays. I used to be too naive and wore my heart on my sleeve.

*I recommend all his books.
**There´s an Ester Egg here:

Robert Greene's "48 Laws of Power," cites Gracian at least thirty times. To help save time, I list here the numbered Gracian maxims that are cited by Greene:
3, 5, 7, 8, 11, 26, 27, 43, 45, 47, 50, 77, 78, 80, 83, 84, 121, 126, 130, 153, 187, 197, 205, 240, 277, 282, 285.

Emotional Vampires - Albert (P.H.D)

This one was the one that really hit home. People used to take advantage of me and I never knew why. After reading it, I could see (through) what kind of people I was dealing with. I felt like neo in the matrix.

Boundaries - Henry Cloud (P.H.D)

This was a natural transition from Emotional Vampires. I saw I was full of holes in my boundary, too permissive, way tolerant, way pleasing. That´s why I was living for others not for my self. It teaches how we can start living a better life, I´d say another life!

No more Mr Nice guy - Glover (P.H.D)

Wrap up the last 2 books above and this closes the circle. FANTASTIC book.

Setting your limits (boundaries), knowing who your enemies are (vampires), being no people pleaser (no more mr nice guy) and being "slicky" (48 laws+Wisdom) you´re pretty much ready to fight!

Despite all of this, it´s still hard not to "fall to your old ways", the way you were brought up, "taught" to live. We have to keep reading it over and over and not let the old ways come back, never anymore. Each person has his hole to patch. If a guy is overly aggressive, emotional he may need other kinds of books.

 

[YAboi]

All I can say is holy crap guys thanks for the contributions! I didn't know anyone else posted in this thread after my last post but anyway im back now. Schools in session again boys. Ive had some great epiphanies and you guys should deffo take a look at my new thread coming up.

Its gonna be called ''the only bitter guys on earth are forum members''. Its gonna be short and sweet but I guarantee it will blow u the heck away . I have escaped the matrix and now I feel like I am the man I always wanted to be, not just in terms of chicks but with life as well.

If u think im a key board jockey I will let u know that yes I am having real world success now beyond my wildest dreams . Case in point just some days ago (thursday night actually) I was at the club and had this asian hb8 with an apple shaped booty come to me while I was on the dancefloor and give me her a s s free of charge. Oh yeah I forgot to mention that I always go alone to the club due to being comfortable in my own skin. Only when my brother and his friends feel like going out , do I go with anyone else. Last time I was at the club I approached a mixed set and found out they were twins i.e the guy was the girls brother. The girl ended up buying me a drink but I was unattracted to her body . Her face was very hot though cos she was from czech republic.

A 40 yr old woman who was acting cold to me at my workplace when I showed attraction subtly to her , asked me if I had a girlfriend some days later when I had my epiphany regarding conversation ( but now that im no more desperate , I don't wanna date anyone from work , let alone an old lady lol). Guys this sh1t is real and women can tell.

Im also not done schooling you guys in this thread cos I made some crazy discoveries that seem like the final piece in the puzzle and I intend to share 'em wit you.

Finally, wow I was amazed when I went on amazon.co.uk and checked the Paul Hauck book section , it was absolutely sold out so , Im glad to have made a difference. As for guys who missed out on getting copies, I checked later on and it seems like amazon have restocked their shelves with more of the books , so grab your copies guys!

and now its time to get to typing , wish me luck this will take a while......................

 

[YAboi]

Firstly I must say that in order to destroy the masturbation thread debate, wanking does not affect u....much (just do it in moderation). It does not help with chicks if u abstain, it does not help if u wank either. The only downside of wanking is that it makes u tired and takes up valuable time that cud be spent doin other sh1t....... thats all. The best solution in my opinion would be to wank just right before bed. THE END


Ok ................


CONVERSATION

This is the final thing I think is missing in terms of getting success with the ladies. I have read zero books on conversation, but I have realised that u don't really need to learn anything concerning conversation cos u can already do it perfectly if u are a human being. Seriously check out my new thread thats coming up, it will show u just how helpful this site is but also how much this site has absolutely screwed up alot of inexperienced dudes that have come here for help...geez!

Anyway, Im gonna have to re-review a few of my realisations as they need updating . In terms of me saying inner game is the be all and end all, I was slightly wrong cos u can be confident but if u don't talk u may have to rely on luck and we all know luck usually leaves u with your right hand as company.

I recently started working at a place where there are lots of old ladies and there I was, the confident , assertive guy who was probably a bit creepy because I was totally quiet and didn't talk. After a while I just decided to start conversing with these ladies and next thing u know I had realisations. When you talk to someone, just be interested in what they are saying because u will get clues as to how to continue the convo. Whenever I would say one thing that they were interested in, they would say 10000 back to me . Later on I was introduced to the hotter younger employees and though at the time I was still a pervert, I dunno what happened but that day someway-somehow, I didn't ruin the interaction by being overly sexual. This led to me just listening and then getting these girls talking.


They ended up revealing alot about themselves and at that point I realised that you don't have to fear getting into the friendzone, getting pvssy is not a mission. By listening to them I realised that I was having fun and was actually interested in what they were saying and that I had been robbing myself of countless fun interactions due to being an over-studious internet nerd instead of going with the flow and not worrying about the reactions I was getting and where it was leading to ( used to always hope it was towards sex) .


When you let go and talk to someone with zero expectations and are just comfortable with who you are and your ideas, you look at ease to the person and then the person actually starts to get nervous (especially if its a chick) . You will notice that when she sees that you are so comfortable with talking to her and that you don't care if u get in the friendzone ( as long as you follow sosuave knowledge u will not :rockon: ) or get in her pants , she will if shes attracted to you; start giving you IOI'S and she may even start getting nervous because she realises that she has no sexual power over you. The girl might even try to lead the conversation towards sex and dating .

Let me put it this way; actively go into an interaction with a chick as if she is a friend and you like who she is as a person. If she seems snotty then do not waste your time being friendly to someone who u know will be disrespectful. By observing the person in front of you , you can tell what kind of chick you could potentially be dealing with. Of course you could always find out the kind of person she is by trying to start a convo with her . Her reaction will guide you as to whether to walk away or not.

Just try it, JUST ONCE , remove all that friendzone bullsh1t programming that you got from this site , stop being afraid of the friendzone, talk to these chicks like you would talk to anyone else, stop caring about whether what you are saying is boring or groundbreaking or cool enough. Interact,..... GO ON!

Oh and one more thing,there are 3 different types of girls

1. the hot chick who as a rule of thumb mostly goes for pretty boys with status and has to be in a relationship to be banged.

2. the hot chick who is vicious and venomous and will rip you apart verbally if you are not extremely ****y and witty/ the ashole-jock type of guy.

3. the hot chick (could even be a knockout drop dead gorgeous chick) who as long as you are real with her ,i.e with no gimmicks/ games, she will be open and accessible to you. (these are the real women)

This concept which my brother explained to me, opened my eyes because I hit a slump again after my last post. I was getting depressed because the hot chicks which I found sexually attractive , were so standoffish and b1tchy.
What I didn't realise was that these were the kind of chicks whose lives revolved around fashion, hot cars and good-looking boys (i.e they were slightly shallow) .

These babes are in their own little worlds so its best to let them be for the most part cos if u want them u have to act like something u are not and be very fake. The funny part is if u ignore some of these chicks they will come to you eventually. These girls are the equivalent of some sosuave members in that, they are overanalytical believe it or not.

They are so used to the PUA kind of guy/shallow guy approaching them, that they usually will not give normal guys a chance unless u persist . They need the guy that is chatting them up to look a certain way, talk a certain way and act a certain way i.e they are not open minded and have a rule book.

The good news is that there are also tons of hot chicks who are open to meeting confident well-balanced guys.

One more thing, never ever write yourself off in terms of your interactions with people. Trust me yeah just because you had an awkward conversation with someone once doesn't mean you can't make a new impression the next day. Realise this ; first impressions count but you can make 10000 first impressions i.e you can totally change someone's view of you the next time you meet them. As long as you did not insult them the last time, you can change what they think of you. Also whenever you feel low realise that energy is so important in your interactions.

Case in point; I know this guy who is so cool and he always greets me nicely and we talk ok and sh1t. One day though this guy came and had a very long face and when I greeted him he was unenthusiastic. Needless to say, I tried not to go near him because I was afraid of saying the wrong thing that would further upset him and was afraid of overstaying my welcome.

Guys, that is how people feel when you are feeling down and dejected when near them. You think its because you are depressed that they are running away, but they may like you alot and think u are really cool but they might just be afraid of you snapping at them while youre in a bad mood.

Remember though even if u were low energy today you always have a second chance tomorrow. NEVER WRITE YOURSELF OFF WITH CHICKS OR OTHER PEOPLE. They will only write you off if they are immature or if they were hurt by you snubbing them but there are always other people to interact with and do the right thing with next time around.


In terms of PUA tips and tricks and info on this site, I would describe it as being like alcohol. You should not take it if u are not mentally mature (i.e still a noob) but drink away if you are an adult (experienced guys on the forum who actually deal with chicks alot).

Let me explain;

when you read all this PUA STUFF but do not know how to hold a simple conversation with a female , you will come across as a creep because it will sound forced. Pick up material only papers up the cracks , if u have no innergame and therefore you give out a fake image. When you handle your innergame (which can be done by reading this thread :yes: ) you can then learn all the PUA material you want to.

Allow me to use this analogy: With innergame u are like a skilled woodchopper who has a wide selection of chopping tools to choose from, without innergame you are like a 2 year old kid who has a bag full of the best chopping equipment but has no idea how to nor any energy to use the equipment.

I think as a prerequisite, all noobs should first learn innergame before reading up on tips and tricks because if not you will become a robot or even worse an ebook addict and you will see little to no results.



How can you approach a set when you can't even let go of all the baggage in your head?

How can you lead or DHV when you don't believe in who you are as a man?

How can you convince someone of something , when you don't know what you stand for?

How can you be sexual when you are afraid of offending the chick?

How can you deal with a stubborn chick with a neg when you don't know how to be assertive?

Well guys there you have it, in a nutshell if u wanna improve with chicks alot , then stop thinking of the friendzone and start talking to them normally,plus don't get pissed if the girl is a snob. Just move on to other babes. If u have no innergame , do not read pickup material.

 

[YAboi]

If you go clubbing , try this experiment;

Actively set out one day where you will not do anything but just stand around for most of the night and observe your environment and the people interacting in it. You will begin to see some patterns that repeat themselves over time. You may even notice some girls coming in close proximity to you (newsflash they are most likely attracted). Just stare at the dancefloor with no hate in your eyes and just feel the vibe of the place while watching people's interactions , you will start to see patterns.

e.g - girls who wear jeans in the club are usually the nicest because they feel insecure when they see the hot girls in miniskirts and other times they are just naturally down to earth.


- if a girl keeps looking back over her shoulder towards your direction or you feel eyes on you, you might have an admirer

- If you get chatting with a lone girl , ask her where her friends are and she will most likely say they are far away. Then tell her in a joking way '' oh so your friends are trying to get rid of you cos they hate you/are tired of you''

She will say no but then you bust on her and say ''ahh thats why they went far away from you, they are running away'' For some reason this makes them ultra insecure whenever I say it. It also makes them horny for you, cause they see you are unafraid of conflict.

 

[Unbridled_Phoenix]

Am I in the book recommendation thread?

 

[YAboi]

Am I in the book recommendation thread?

I know what you are trying to say ,but at the start of the thread I also stated that it would serve as a personal diary for myself as well as a source of information to help up and coming strugglers who are in the same situation I was not long ago b4 I entered the winners circle.

In a nutshell..... YES you are in the official book recommendation thread/innergame workout factory.

 

[Igetit!]

Firstly I must say that in order to destroy the masturbation thread debate, wanking does not affect u....much (just do it in moderation). It does not help with chicks if u abstain, it does not help if u wank either. The only downside of wanking is that it makes u tired and takes up valuable time that cud be spent doin other sh1t....... thats all. The best solution in my opinion would be to wank just right before bed. THE END


Ok ................


CONVERSATION

This is the final thing I think is missing in terms of getting success with the ladies. I have read zero books on conversation, but I have realised that u don't really need to learn anything concerning conversation cos u can already do it perfectly if u are a human being. Seriously check out my new thread thats coming up, it will show u just how helpful this site is but also how much this site has absolutely screwed up alot of inexperienced dudes that have come here for help...geez!

Any Im gonna have to re-review a few of my realisations as they need updating . In terms of me saying inner game is the be all and end all, I was slightly wrong cos u can be confident but if u don't talk u may have to rely on luck and we all know luck usually leaves u with your right hand as company.

I recently started working at a place where there are lots of old ladies and there I was, the confident , assertive guy who was probably a bit creepy because I was totally quiet and didn't talk. After a while I just decided to start conversing with these ladies and next thing u know I had realisations. When you talk to someone, just be interested in what they are saying because u will get clues as to how to continue the convo. Whenever I would say one thing that they were interested in, they would say 10000 back to me . Later on I was introduced to the hotter younger employees and though at the time I was still a pervert, I dunno what happened but that day someway-somehow, I didn't ruin the interaction by being overly sexual. This led to me just listening and then getting these girls talking.


They ended up revealing alot about themselves and at that point I realised that you don't have to fear getting into the friendzone, getting pvssy is not a mission. By listening to them I realised that I was having fun and was actually interested in what they were saying and that I had been robbing myself of countless fun interactions due to being an over-studious internet nerd instead of going with the flow and not worrying about the reactions I was getting and where it was leading to ( used to always hope it was towards sex) .


When you let go and talk to someone with zero expectations and are just comfortable with who you are and your ideas, you look at ease to the person and then the person actually starts to get nervous (especially if its a chick) . You will notice that when she sees that you are so comfortable with talking to her and that you don't care if u get in the friendzone ( as long as you follow sosuave knowledge u will not :rockon: ) or get in her pants , she will if shes attracted to you; start giving you IOI'S and she may even start getting nervous because she realises that she has no sexual power over you. The girl might even try to lead the conversation towards sex and dating .

Let me put it this way; actively go into an interaction with a chick as if she is a friend and you like who she is as a person. If she seems snotty then do not waste your time being friendly to someone who u know will be disrespectful. By observing the person in front of you , you can tell what kind of chick you could potentially be dealing with. Of course you could always find out the kind of person she is by trying to start a convo with her . Her reaction will guide you as to whether to walk away or not.

Just try it, JUST ONCE , remove all that friendzone bullsh1t programming that you got from this site , stop being afraid of the friendzone, talk to these chicks like you would talk to anyone else, stop caring about whether what you are saying is boring or groundbreaking or cool enough. Interact,..... GO ON!

Oh and one more thing,there are 3 different types of girls

1. the hot chick who as a rule of thumb mostly goes for pretty boys with status and has to be in a relationship to be banged.

2. the hot chick who is vicious and venomous and will rip you apart verbally if you are not extremely ****y and witty/ the ashole-jock type of guy.

3. the hot chick (could even be a knockout drop dead gorgeous chick) who as long as you are real with her ,i.e with no gimmicks/ games, she will be open and accessible to you. (these are the real women)

This concept which my brother explained to me, opened my eyes because I hit a slump again after my last post. I was getting depressed because the hot chicks which I found sexually attractive , were so standoffish and b1tchy.
What I didn't realise was that these were the kind of chicks whose lives revolved around fashion, hot cars and good-looking boys (i.e they were slightly shallow) .

These babes are in their own little worlds so its best to let them be for the most part cos if u want them u have to act like something u are not and be very fake. The funny part is if u ignore some of these chicks they will come to you eventually. These girls are the equivalent of some sosuave members in that, they are overanalytical believe it or not.

They are so used to the PUA kind of guy/shallow guy approaching them, that they usually will not give normal guys a chance unless u persist . They need the guy that is chatting them up to look a certain way, talk a certain way and act a certain way i.e they are not open minded and have a rule book.

The good news is that their are also tons of hot chicks who are open to meeting confident well-balanced guys.

One more thing, never ever write yourself off in terms of your interactions with people. Trust me yeah just because you had an awkward conversation with someone once doesn't mean you can't make a new impression the next day. Realise this ; first impressions count but you can make 10000 first impressions i.e you can totally change someone's view of you the next time you meet them. As long as you did not insult them the last time, you can change what they think of you. Also whenever you feel low realise that energy is so important in your interactions.

Case in point; I know this guy who is so cool and he always greets me nicely and we talk ok and sh1t. One day though this guy came and had a very long face and when I greeted him he was unenthusiastic. Needless to say, I tried not to go near him because I was afraid of saying the wrong thing that would further upset him and was afraid of overstaying my welcome.

Guys, that is how people feel when you are feeling down and dejected when near them. You think its because you are depressed that they are running away, but they may like you alot and think u are really cool but they might just be afraid of you snapping at them while youre in a bad mood.

Remember though even if u were low energy today you always have a second chance tomorrow. NEVER WRITE YOURSELF OFF WITH CHICKS OR OTHER PEOPLE. They will only write you off if they are immature or if they were hurt by you snubbing them but there are always other people to interact with and do the right thing with next time around.


In terms of PUA tips and tricks and info on this site, I would describe it as being like alcohol. You should not take it if u are not mentally mature (i.e still a noob) but drink away if you are an adult (experienced guys on the forum who actually deal with chicks alot).

Let me explain;

when you read all this PUA STUFF but do not know how to hold a simple conversation with a female , you will come across as a creep because it will sound forced. Pick up material only papers up the cracks , if u have no innergame and therefore you give out a fake image. When you handle your innergame (which can be done by reading this thread :yes: ) you can then learn all the PUA material you want to.

Allow me to use this analogy: With innergame u are like a skilled woodchopper who has a wide selection of chopping tools to choose from, without innergame you are like a 2 year old kid who has a bag full of the best chopping equipment but has no idea how to nor any energy to use the equipment.

I think as a prerequisite, all noobs should first learn innergame before reading up on tips and tricks because if not you will become a robot or even worse an ebook addict and you will see little to no results.



How can you approach a set when you can't even let go of all the baggage in your head?

How can you lead or DHV when you don't believe in who you are as a man?

How can you convince someone of something , when you don't know what you stand for?

How can you be sexual when you are afraid of offending the chick?

How can you deal with a stubborn chick with a neg when you don't know how to be assertive?

Well guys there you have it, in a nutshell if u wanna improve with chicks alot , then stop thinking of the friendzone and start talking to them normally,plus don't get pissed if the girl is a snob. Just move on to other babes. If u have no innergame , do not read pickup material.

WOOOOW.


Are you really Yaboi,or are you someone else using his surname?


You seem TOTALLY DIFFERENT.


You must have put some serious,SERIOUS time and energy into your innergame...I mean the transformation is glaring obvious.

I tried to rep. you for this,but the darn thing wouldn't let me,but you DEFINALTELY deserve it.



I don't know what in the world got into you,but keep it up man.

 

[YAboi]

WOOOOW.


Are you really Yaboi,or are you someone else using his surname?


You seem TOTALLY DIFFERENT.


You must have put some serious,SERIOUS time and energy into your innergame...I mean the transformation is glaring obvious.

I tried to rep. you for this,but the darn thing wouldn't let me,but you DEFINALTELY deserve it.



I don't know what in the world got into you,but keep it up man.

Man your'e making me blush, stop it lol.

But on a serious note , thanks man Im glad you noticed the change and yes Im still the same YAboi with a new mindset/way of thinking and I never want to go back to my old ways.

Its not that hard to assess yourself and work on your innergame when you have become a reclusive loner with plenty of negative thinking time on your hands. I just chose to use that time to try and fix and correct all my issues..........

 

[YAboi]

My Definition of INNERGAME

I know I said it was and then I said it wasn't but now ima say, Innergame IS the be all and end all, its just that when you handle your innergame , there is always room for improvement and you experience LOTS of setbacks over and over again. It is not a static state that is reached where everything becomes automatically alright. It is a state that is reached at first where things become better and clearer and you start to see new holes in your approach to life and your character . At this point its up to you to fix these problems.

During my thread posting activities on innergame, I have had to backtrack several times i.e there would be times I would say innergame is a combination of certain factors and then later I would add some more. What I realised recently is that innergame is basically a way by which you gain clarity to such a degree where you learn how to take control of your life and identify problems with your personality and then proceed to fix them by gaining external and internal help (help from others and help through self introspection/motivation). Whenever you experience a setback , ask someone close to you for feedback as to what you might have done wrongly or meditate and ask yourself this question. With your newfound confidence and clarity (innergame), you will gain the ability to fix your issues.

e.g When I gained clarity,

- I realised I was bad at conversation so I got that fixed.

- I was a pushover and knew it so I learned to be assertive

- After my thread on bitterness, I realised I could have handled the situation better by not getting overly defensive so i FIXED THAT

- My eye contact sucked so I got that handled

- My emotions were always worn on my sleeve so i sorted that out

see where this is going?..... You can fix yourself and your life


3 good rules that would help with this are;

1.) Realise that no one is better than you unless you think so ( never rate yourself or other people)

2.) Do not sulk when things are going badly , study the pattern of whats going wrong and seek a solution.

3.) No one is totally good or bad only our actions are so try to be less judgemental and more open minded

 

[r0cky]

You most definetly should give "The Secret" a try. This is one of those books that either changes your life completely or is a waste of your time. Its really up to the person. I'm part of the crowd whose life it has changed. I'm seeing dramatic results over the span of a few weeks from internalizing the simple teachings in this book.

 

[Accension]

YAboi advises,

"20.) GTA IV (grand theft auto 4 the video game) is very helpful in teaching guys who are too scared and clueless to expand their social circles , just how easy it can be. Niko bellic the main character in the game gets missions from mob bosses and police chiefs and he does them successfully and is then given new contact numbers of other people who need jobs done and he accepts these contacts with no fear whatsoever ."
​

No comment.
How ever, I will recommend a book (if it's already here FUUUUU-).

Get the Life You Want by Richard Bandler, the 'father' of Neuro Linguistic Programming.
As some of you will know, A LOT of our techniques are built around this model.

This book is a must.
Why? -- because it's not pseudo-self help BS.
It works and I'm a cynical-skeptic.

This book can be pirated all over the web, but I recommend getting an account on warez-bb.org, a premium site for just about any downloads (I was able to download all the RSD stuff from there).

Infact, all books in this thread could be found on warez-bb so grab an account!

 

[snowdog]

Read MY book once it's out

 

[YAboi]

YAboi advises,

"20.) GTA IV (grand theft auto 4 the video game) is very helpful in teaching guys who are too scared and clueless to expand their social circles , just how easy it can be. Niko bellic the main character in the game gets missions from mob bosses and police chiefs and he does them successfully and is then given new contact numbers of other people who need jobs done and he accepts these contacts with no fear whatsoever ."
​

No comment.

Don't knock it if you aint tried it. That videogame is as close to real life as it gets. You are a pimp from what i can tell so this advice is not directed at you.

This book can be pirated all over the web, but I recommend getting an account on warez-bb.org, a premium site for just about any downloads (I was able to download all the RSD stuff from there).

Infact, all books in this thread could be found on warez-bb so grab an account!

Thanks for the heads up homie!

Read MY book once it's out

we will do just that man!



Time to get started on posting on indifference............