Thanks a lot for all the replies guys!
Now... I gotta admit something:
I WAS TOTALLY WRONG
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Not really... but... Frankly, I should have been a little bit more detailed.
See, I was afraid of letting this first post getting too long.
Now, let me explain myself - and Interceptor, you're no dummie
at all ;-)
What this thing is all about is really simple: Moving the line between
Theory and practice.
You see, lots of the new guys around here (and unfortunately the
old members as well) seems to suffer from some sort of information
overload.
BUT IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT
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Let me break it down for you - and I hope some of you can relate.
When I first got registered here I really needed help with women. Seriously,
I didn't really have any friends, no girls and uh... I almost forgot...
no confidence or belief at all. I didn't know how to kiss a girl, call her up
or even talk to her. Nothing at all!
I wanted the whole world to go **** itself! I didn't want anything to be
"my fault". Anyway....
I stumbled up a ebook by Derek Vitalio (I know, he's no famous around here at all... think I found it from google adsense) which was about... oh... can you guess?
How to get girls.
I pulled out my debit card and paid 50-something-dollars.
A NEW WORLD OPENED UP TO ME
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I locked myself in and stayed home for 4-5 days or something. And, I was
learning so much... (I guess you can relate) All these techniques and sequenses, lines theories, everything.
I gotta tell you it felt a little bit stupid to read a book about how to get confidence and women, but well... i've always been open minded.
I felt great! I'd never felt that confidence with women. I had figured it out!
I knew more than all my friends about dating and girls and how the female mind works.
I was reborn, this total new person!
OR WAS I?
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Everything felt great, it was just that... there was something missing:
I hadn't really tried anything out yet in the real world. I mean, of course
i knew everything but you know... I WOULD try it later.
It was just that... well... maybe I should learn a little bit more. This Derek
Vitalio guy couldn't possibly be the only guy in the world that knew about
this stuff. So, maybe I should learn some more from a different angle.
After all... if I could learn this much from this one book, imagine how
powerful my knowledge would be if I doubled it.
So, I went out online again, to google.com and started to type in
stuff like "how to meet women, how to get girls, how to get
confidence, Derek Vitalio," etc. etc. etc.
AND THERE IT WAS - SOSUAVE.NET
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Wow, a whole world of guys discussing this. They would post feedback
in real time and get instant feedback on issues like how to get phone numbers, call up, send text messages, dealing with objections, closing,
etc. etc. etc.
I would practice and learn it all. To perfection!
LETS STOP THERE FOR A SECOND
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See where I'm going with this? Well, seriously, it's the real story. If you
press my nickname you can go back to 2004 and look at my first posts.
I posted new topics and asked on detailed issues in order to know what
to do next. And I mean very detailed. Just watch em and you'll see. It's
kinda stupid but well... we've all been there.
And that's my point. Is that the way to go, or should we move the line
between theory and practice a little bit.
I'm not talking about giving up the theory to a 100%. No way! But, for the
most time, I think we - as humans and members of this board - are afraid
of what would happen when we have to deal with our own issues and
answer our own questions.
The way I did it was spending at least one hour a day studying theory at
this board. I would read everything. And then I would find topics about
how wrong it was to stay infront of the computer studying. That you
should go out for at least 1 hour a day instead and "field approach".
IS THAT THE WAY TO GO?
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Have you ever thought about how stupid that is? To go out and just walk
around for one hour, with a dedication to pick up women. Really guys, talk
about desperation... (?)
I mean, I used to do that aswell, until I found a job which required me to
approach people on the street (field sales) .
Ask a couple of friends who's not enlighted with this pick up industry and
they'll probably tell you the same thing.
Because.. if you think about it it's not a normal thing to do. It's okay
to talk to people you don't know - but walking up to them out of nowhere
when they're just minding their own business - and you're out there on
this one mission to pick them up? C'mon:
Go ahead and approach everyone you meet, but do it in your normal life:
When you're waiting on the buss.
Or having a coffee with your friends.
Or just chilling and hanging out in town or in a mall.
SO WHERE AM I GOING WITH THIS?
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My point to this long story is really really simple:
(And for those of you who scrolled down to get my final point - you're cool
too)
Instead of spending 80% of your time going back to this board and post
questions about issues and map our details on how to deal with this one
girl or this one problem) consider this:
What would you do if you didn't have the theories and methods around?
I mean ... it's nothing wrong or anything with learning how the system works
and the proccess of closing a deal - but really: Sometimes these guys that
makes these theories up ... well... they're making it TOO DAMN COMPLICATED.
It's not rocket science, and it shouldn't be either. Just because there's
theories around doesn't mean we have to use them. And if your role model
is guys like Neil Strauss, Mystery and other "Gurus" out there, consider this:
They're CHARACTERS. And they're created are created to sell a story. A story
about how you can do it too (the only thing you need to do is buy some stuff
from them). Yes there... I said it: They're not real!
They're cool guys and everything, but there's a slight problem with their
methods and theories:
It works for them! And that's it. Of course it work for other people
aswell, but never as good as it does for them. Why?
That's the way theories work. A theory is nothing but the practice mapped
out on a piece of paper. It's a detailed breakdown of something that works
for someone else.
HOW TO GET A PHONE NUMBER IN 10 SEC.
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I have theories aswell. Good once. I have a way I can get a phone number
from a girl in less then 10 seconds. I'm not kidding. And it works like every
time. I just do my stuff and then she writes me her number. If I add a little
twist to it I can get the girl to write down her deepest sexual fantasies aswell.
And I can teach it to you for free. No problem. It's just that... if I don't go
into details about why the stuff works for me, it will never work for you.
Because there are more things to it then just the lines and the social psychology.
And that's my point! What works for me will never work asgood for you.
... You gotta find your own way, and you gotta let go of the theories and
methods on how to get phone numbers and kiss close and everything.
Spend 10% of your time studying, and 90% living your life.
And never dedicate yourself to picking up girls. It's just stupid and
a waist of time.
Hell yeah it's funny... but it won't make you happy.
Anyway, hope that cleared my point out a little bit. Keep the comments
coming.