The Alpha Male/ verbal seducer will always win.

[h2o]

Re: Alpha Male

Originally posted by Sart
How many times do you guys have to throw ths term around? Have you ever met an alpha male? It isn't an attitude, it is a genetic makeup which is rare.

You cant BECOME an alpha male, you are afflicted with it at birth and it aint that great.

Focus on being assertive and decisive and being your own man. Step one is to identify YOU, step two is to improve YOU. I am 38 years old and have met perhaps 3 alpha males in my entire life. In normal society I would considered an alpha male. I am self employed, I was a Captain in the Military, I am aggresive and bloddy minded, I hire and fire people all the time etc.

I have met 3 men that simply have it over me. Their careers werent as good, they made less money, they were socially less acceptable BUT, they had raw gut animal leadership. If the World had a nuclear war and we went back to basics, these guys would run the show.

There is a lot of info on this over at pimphop...check it out.

yeah...I'm no alpha male myself, and I know only one person who is. they're one of my close relatives.

He's definitely a natural born leader...and is a leader in a fortune500 company...just like Sart, he hires/fires people daily. But he also had an exceptionally rough life/upbringing...I'm sure that's a factor. However, to anyone who says alpha can be learnt...it can't because he had brothers who also grew up in similar conditions who did not develop such a character

But he's definitely alpha...as in, yes, if the world fell apart, he would be on top. He's the type of guy you don't fcuk with, but then again, he leads you, like magnetism, and almost every time he speaks I mentally take notes because it's as if every single joke, story, or conversation that comes out of his mouth is a reference/tip to how one can improve their life...it's very fortunate if you can spend time around one of these rare people, and they're very inspiring/motivating ...he's so powerful/knowledgeable, it's like every article on this site would be a joke to him, because he was born with all of this ...nonetheless, he is always learning, constantly changing himself, and that's one thing he stresses alot...constantly changing oneself, constantly learning/growing

I've been around him a little, and it's like everywhere we've gone, he draws people to him...very powerful character...it's almost as if you can feel it that this person is just different

I know for a fact that no one else in my family comes close to how this guy is, heck, know one else I have ever known comes close to this guy...yes, he is even a bit erratic at times, but he's just incredible...it's weird...he's so different that I find it hard to believe I'm related to this guy...(yet he is a very close blood-relative)

Last time he was around he said something along the lines of "see the forest through the trees" ...in other words, fcuk the little stuff, see the bigger picture...I admit I don't see it yet, and lots of people don't ...and I can't exactly explain this like he probably could ...

I mean, like Sart said, you will know the difference between a supposed alpha who just gets girls and is the center of attention, and a true alpha...you truly appreciate the presence of the real alpha, like it's a priveledge to be around them because they are so rare and unlike anyone else...those other supposed alphas are a dime a dozen

There's a proverb...not sure what country it's from, but it goes something like "you know you are the shiit when you can put ten other guys in your pocket" ...well, I think a true alpha can equate/surpass well over 100 guys

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edit: and like Sart said, I doubt you will meet any more than a few of these guys in your entire life time, if you are lucky

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
So when you notice an obese chick walking your way you still check out her face, then?

Yeah...I thought not.

obese chicks dont got good looking faces, sorry to inform you.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Chillisauce
So when you notice an obese man walking your way you still check out his face?

Baring deformities (extreme obeseness is NOT natural) i will always check out their face first. It doesnt mean i'd go out with a fat chick who has a good face, it just means the first checkpoint a girl must pass is their face.

Yeah...I will still check out a fat guy's face out of curiosity. Then I'll remember he's obese and will be turned off...but I will ALWAYS look at a guys face first.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

If "alpha male" is about surviving a nuclear holocaust, does this mean forest rangers, hikers, and people in NBC-shielded buildings are all alpha?

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
obese chicks dont got good looking faces, sorry to inform you.

Yeah they do...the prettiest face I've ever seen was on a very hefty girl.

 

[Zman1]

I do think looks are important, however women are much more lineant in the looks department than men are.

I still say 95-99 percent of the time a woman is going to choose you based on how you make her feel with your personality and attitude.

I mean come on guys/girls we all see plenty of attractive women with physically unattractive men. Coincidence? I think not. Looks help to get you in the door and thats it.

As long as you dont look like sloth from the goonies you will have a chance. It is all attitude in the end my friends!

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Zman1
I do think looks are important, however women are much more lineant in the looks department than men are.

I still say 95-99 percent of the time a woman is going to choose you based on how you make her feel with your personality and attitude.

I mean come on guys/girls we all see plenty of attractive women with physically unattractive men. Coincidence? I think not. Looks help to get you in the door and thats it.

As long as you dont look like sloth from the goonies you will have a chance. It is all attitude in the end my friends!

Physically unattractive to men is not the same as physically unattractive to women. Men look at the body first. Women look at the face first. If a woman likes a man's facial features (especially eyes) then it won't matter if he's a bit overweight or too thin or a little short. A woman MUST really like something about the guy's face.

 

[Zman1]

Wyld,

That is probably my best feature. I am 22 and never had facial acne. I have blue eyes and light brown thick wavy hair, perfect teeth and smile.

I have had women comment on my eyes and my eyelashes being long and lush. I suppose women do look at the face first then.

Otherwise I am 6'1'' 185 pounds and do not have to watch what i eat.

I would say I am a pretty good physical specimin for a female! Then my charming personality takes effect.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Zman1
Wyld,

That is probably my best feature. I am 22 and never had facial acne. I have blue eyes and light brown thick wavy hair, perfect teeth and smile.

I have had women comment on my eyes and my eyelashes being long and lush. I suppose women do look at the face first then.

Otherwise I am 6'1'' 185 pounds and do not have to watch what i eat.

I would say I am a pretty good physical specimin for a female! Then my charming personality takes effect.

Personality is important too...but if she doesn't like your face you'll never get a chance to win her over with your personality. You have to get your foot in the door and for women...it's all about the face.

Women like to look into a man's eyes all dreamily and what not. She has to find that face appealing visually to be able to do that. Tastes vary, but bottom line, any girl who is with a guy likes something about the guy's face.

 

[frivolousz21]

Physically unattractive to men is not the same as physically unattractive to women. Men look at the body first. Women look at the face first. If a woman likes a man's facial features (especially eyes) then it won't matter if he's a bit overweight or too thin or a little short. A woman MUST really like something about the guy's face.

this is A FACT!

I am 5 6 ! recedding hariline!

not im perfect shape.but pretty good on the body.

but women say I have a cute smile and great eyes...and thats been the golden ticket to dating so many women as tall or taller then me.

work on those smiles Gentlemen!

 

[arlanda]

Sure, looks as a part of the first impression are very important but I've seen too many cases of "I liked him but then I got to know him and ... it was over" so I don't believe it's only black or white.

Also, you have to take into account that most women are insecure about their looks and thus willing to accept you and your not so model-handsome looking face, or whatever. (provided you got the personality stuff going on)

Another thing is that really good looking guys are rare, at least in my opinion (but I ain't no expert, obviously ) There's one guy from my class, he's tall, in great shape, simply handsome and confident (who wouldn't be if you were looking like that, lol). I guess he has no problems hooking up with a girl but I wouldn't say he's an alpha. When our math teacher (old biatch) was pissed off again and screamed at him he was apparently nervous and not so confident anymore. I could see he was even scared

Anyway, I've seen a great change when I adopted "I don't give a ****" and "You're hot, so what" attitude. Women simply can't help it

 

[Visceral]

The face is a better indicator of genetic fitness than the body, because the body can be muscular, scrawny, or fat based on external forces as well as genetics, whereas these same things have little or no effect on the face.

A man can be short and scrawny because of lack of food, but will it make him ugly? No. A man can be muscular because of plentiful food and exercise, but will they make him gorgeous? No.

Besides, facial beauty is based on mathematical proportions, not on any subjective standard, so a guy could be physically attractive to women without looking anything like Brad Pitt.

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Man, I hate being right all the time. I suspected from the beginning that alphahood was genetic, but this site got me thinking that was a loser attitude. If you have to be born an "alpha male", then what learnable thing are we confusing alphahood with? Is there anything to be learned or are we all doomed?

 

[Phoenix_of_the_ashes]

First of all, the status alpha is not a descrete term and can only be applied in relationship to other people. Its a concept used in behavioral studies of wild animals and should only loosly be applied to humans.

And you people you said its genetic, can you give a source for this claim?

 

[Fatality]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Yeah they do...the prettiest face I've ever seen was on a very hefty girl.

LMAO good thing you're not running any modeling agency:crackup:

I also look at the face first. I don't care how great her body is, it's all about the face.

 

[ScrewIt]

All of you are liars.

Men and women equally share a similar response to interpreting physical attractiveness. The fact is that women usually have low self esteem and would often choose the mate with the alpha personality over looks...and some just would prefer to settle into a relationship earlier than men. Thats why you see so much ugly guys with hot gfs. You could say the terms for choosing an acceptable mate varies for opposite sex. Because such characteristics of either sex provide certain securities for future offspring, such as the provider or protector... In the beginning both share the equal initial response to a physically attractive being.

It's BS to say guys go for hot girls, yes its true. But a lot of times i've seen average looking guys with average looking gfs...who knows maybe they dont believe they can do better and would find it preferabbly easier to find somoene on their level. In the end its up to the individual to settle for what he/she considers is the overall choice.

 

[Visceral]

Originally posted by Fatality
LMAO good thing you're not running any modeling agency:crackup:

Yes ... the dour and bony faces of models are incredibly stimulating

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Fatality
LMAO good thing you're not running any modeling agency:crackup:

I also look at the face first. I don't care how great her body is, it's all about the face.

I'm not kidding...the woman was probably 200lbs or better and she had the most aesthetically pretty face I've ever seen.

Models (clothing) are actually pretty butt ugly facially for the most part. Some are pretty, but some are pretty ugly. They're all so thin they look ill...bordering on anorexic. Makeup/face models/covergirls are much prettier.

I'm not saying men don't notice pretty faces, too. I am saying that before you look at the face you notice whether or not her body is appealing enough for you to look any further.

 

[BackToTheMack]

Pfttttt its all about how you make the woman feel. If you make her feel good and happy and of course give her intense orgasms you could have fallen out the ugly train into the ugly tree and she will still love you.

Yeh models have terrible faces look at Megan Gale and Ele Mcpherson some of the ugliest people you will ever see tools

 

[Visceral]

I will admit, though, that most guys who are bad with women - in addition to other problems, obviously - probably suffer from crippling body image problems that a healthy dose of vanity would help.

That being said, I personally think that even if looks matter to women, mens' current preoccupation with them is not a good thing. So Darwin and Nietzsche wouldn't go gay for you ... BIG FVCKING DEAL! I can think of worse fates.

Believe it or not, the last time I checked, it was women - no sh!t, fvcking WOMEN! - who got all bent out of shape over their status and sex appeal; men were too busy doing stuff to care about stupid sh!t like that.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by BackToTheMack
Pfttttt its all about how you make the woman feel. If you make her feel good and happy and of course give her intense orgasms you could have fallen out the ugly train into the ugly tree and she will still love you.

Yeh models have terrible faces look at Megan Gale and Ele Mcpherson some of the ugliest people you will ever see tools

Covergirl models are a bit different than fashion models. Covergirl models are used to sell make up and facial products...so their faces need to be really pretty. Fashion models are tall bean poles with virtually no boobs...human stick figures that clothes hang off like a wire hanger. Fashion models aren't supposed to have really pretty faces because it would distract from the clothing...which is what they are trying to sell.