The absolute state of the US online dating market

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What is the average?
I don't know. But i know his match rate of a little more than 2 a month beats what mine was assuming he has a minimum standard, especially or at least if he ever met any of them. But yeah, calling it "good" was an exaggeration.
 
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Pvssy, for the most part, feels the same across the board.... Yet guys are putting the pvssy on a pedestal like it's an oasis in the desert....
When I was 14, 15, 16 (because I'd been taken golfing by a new friend (because I'd become known as very dominant on the mound in baseball so this rich kid wanted to be my friend in school) for the first time in the #1 country club golf course in town), I used to play the public course ALONE joining a 2-some or 3-some and I remember at the tinder Virginical age of 15 telling this 40, 50, and 60 year olds that "pvssy is pvssy" that it's all the same and they Sharply nodded their head and said, "No it's not!!" as if they were connoisseurs who'd been dinning on it for Years. We'd talked about Madonna and I'd said that she had a great singing voice (to give her THAT at least) and they were NO! condescending then to to me, a 15 year old, continuing to trash Madonna all around. At the time I'd liked one of her less known songs Only and right now I can't remember it. I'd liked some other female 80s voices (pop) then too - it'd just reminded me of Summer in the water and being outside in the sun etc etc feel good times with church trips and local neighborhood/school friends during the Summer breaks. They couldn't understand my link cause they were Old from a different era, but even being a Virgin I'd discounted women telling them that "pvssy's just pvssy" "it's all the same." Oh man they got contemptible ganging up on me with that quip I'd made. They were smokers and you'd think had lived up their lives in the 60s and 70s during Nam and hippie times, drug times, with rock n' roll music. The city I grew up in was a trashy city (still is) too. I was around these scumbags everywhere, some were very Bible-belty too pious and goody-good of course as I was in the Deep South. I had the sh!ttiest clubs too cause I was dirt poor. My parents hardly ever bought me anything except at Christmas. I'm Way richer than my parents were in their 30s and 40s. It was a struggle because my dad hated working lol. My mom hated that and divorced him for it later on. Most ex-military (Marines, spec ops) HATE working after service. Some continue to be go-getters. Not my dad.
 

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Their mentality is "better to reign in hell than serve in heaven". Hell being pump and dump good looking guys out of their league and settle with the beta around age 30 but at least they have power.
Being pumped and dumped is like being used for money by a lady who dont like you. Its a degradation of your personal power.
 

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Their mentality is "better to reign in hell than serve in heaven". Hell being pump and dump good looking guys out of their league and settle with the beta around age 30 but at least they have power.
What about "their 5 boyfriends waiting at home"?
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Once simps have access to afforadble S*x Bots And VR Pron, it will all be over for most women
Amen. This has been stated by several people and I truly believe it. It can't come fast enough to level out the playing field.

The other thing I posted about before but didn't gain traction is I wonder with Germany having had legalized prostitution for years and have over 300k registered sex workers, if the dating dynamics is different there? I gotta imagine the guys only wanting sex would see sex workers and there would be more guys wanting relationships(or free sex if they are too cheap or wanted a challenge) on the dating apps instead.
 

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legal prostitution has value. but... we need someone smarter than me and probably you; to police it. we really don't want abuse from it, we want women that understand what they are doing; really understand and want to do it. In that case; then all we need is some price control so that it's affordable.
You just need to know where to look. In terms of affordable, you could get girls in Colombia for $35-45 for full service. Similar or less in SEA but obviously different taste in women there.

Regulated and regularly tested German Sex workers aren't bad too depending on where you look. The King George Brothel in Berlin for example has an all you can sex and drink package during the week for 99 Euros. They have around 27 sex workers in that place.

The US unfortunately is deprived with only the Bunny Ranch and other overpriced, low quality options around Nevada. Yet everyone is eager to open up Weed dispensaries... Go figure... Women narrative and strong feminism at play in the US.
 

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Being pumped and dumped is like being used for money by a lady who dont like you. Its a degradation of your personal power.
Aaqa...
we all have choices; even the p & d'ed female.
Like taking a drug or other substance, their eyes are wide open with their choice to lay.
I watched a female contact do it. It's ALWAYS a guy who'd never be her man. The energy sucks. She gets scraps of attention if that. She builds up some confidence and self respect away from the guy then she goes to get pump and dumped comes out of it questioning her value noticeably depleted. And she builds up until he calls on her again in a week or so. It makes her more insecure. Keeps her from being as attractive as she could be.
 

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we all have choices; even the p & d'ed female.
Like taking a drug or other substance, their eyes are wide open with their choice to lay.
Yea but my contact knew she was being stupid and felt stupider for continuing...

She gave me a brief Window where she wanted to do those things with me. But i was dealing with another. But i shouldve taken her up on it as it would be therapeutic for the both of us.
 

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Amen. This has been stated by several people and I truly believe it. It can't come fast enough to level out the playing field.

The other thing I posted about before but didn't gain traction is I wonder with Germany having had legalized prostitution for years and have over 300k registered sex workers, if the dating dynamics is different there? I gotta imagine the guys only wanting sex would see sex workers and there would be more guys wanting relationships(or free sex if they are too cheap or wanted a challenge) on the dating apps instead.
I live in Australia, prostitution is legal here and in most of the developed world.

It makes zero difference, especially with how expebsive escorts are
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Yea but my contact knew she was being stupid and felt stupider for continuing...

She gave me a brief Window where she wanted to do those things with me. But i was dealing with another. But i shouldve taken her up on it as it would be therapeutic for the both of us.
I don't know brother. I wish I knew what to say for advice.
I fail spectacularly at 'reading people' and have to say I don't know you simply through your posts.
This poster is used to me taking risks and he's known you longer so Imma gonna call on @LARaiders85 to hopefully advise.

I remember reading @Spaz writing that you and LA are 'expressives' so maybe he'll think of some advice if he is available.

I'd @ one more member but he's insulted by me for an unknown reason rn and would resent it.
 

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I was able to meet a lot of women by joining a yoga meetup from meetup.com, though they only meet once a month
How do you get over the creep factor of being the one of the only males in a room mainly full of women?
 

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I don't know brother. I wish I knew what to say for advice.
I fail spectacularly at 'reading people' and have to say I don't know you simply through your posts.
This poster is used to me taking risks and he's known you longer so Imma gonna call on @LARaiders85 to hopefully advise.

I remember reading @Spaz writing that you and LA are 'expressives' so maybe he'll think of some advice if he is available.

I'd @ one more member but he's insulted by me for an unknown reason rn and would resent it.
I don't listen to him like that. That window closed. But she really wanted it and i was stuck on someone else. I shouldve done it cause it woulda been good for my situation. And it would've been good for her too.
 

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I don't know brother. I wish I knew what to say for advice.
I fail spectacularly at 'reading people' and have to say I don't know you simply through your posts.
This poster is used to me taking risks and he's known you longer so Imma gonna call on @LARaiders85 to hopefully advise.

I remember reading @Spaz writing that you and LA are 'expressives' so maybe he'll think of some advice if he is available.

I'd @ one more member but he's insulted by me for an unknown reason rn and would resent it.
Expressives got an abundance of love, that's what's so special abt them.

Due to this inherent nature, they're NATURALLY talented at acting, music, art, psychology, seducing, etc.

But the downside is they seek love that no women is capable enough to meet, at least not according to their standards, which naturally is supremely high.

That's their problem, too much love that it is overwhelming for women after some period of time and feel too little love from women to meet their high standards.
 

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I live in Australia, prostitution is legal here and in most of the developed world.

It makes zero difference, especially with how expebsive escorts are
That's an interesting data point but do you know how many registered sex workers there are in Australia?

I'd imagine with 300k+ registered sex workers and who knows how many unregistered ones in Germany that the competition can be high and even out the demand vs. supply. I'm only speculating of course. It would be nice to hear from someone with first hand experience that actually lives there. But of course, those guys wouldn't be on these forums as they'd be too busy getting serviced. LOL
 

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Expressives got an abundance of love, that's what's so special abt them.

Due to this inherent nature, they're NATURALLY talented at acting, music, art, psychology, seducing, etc.

But the downside is they seek love that no women is capable enough to meet, at least not according to their standards, which naturally is supremely high.

That's their problem, too much love that it is overwhelming for women after some period of time and feel too little love from women to meet their high standards.
Don't speak so soon. That "no" woman is able to meet? If they love themselves, their craft and their lives some lady will be smitten by them and fall 4 them.
 

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Expressives got an abundance of love, that's what's so special abt them.

Due to this inherent nature, they're NATURALLY talented at acting, music, art, psychology, seducing, etc.

But the downside is they seek love that no women is capable enough to meet, at least not according to their standards, which naturally is supremely high.

That's their problem, too much love that it is overwhelming for women after some period of time and feel too little love from women to meet their high standards.
Thank you, I think it best for expressives to spin even more plates than your average DJ then. In order to get all requirements of love met.
I wonder how you came to this conclusion just through posts on an internet forum?

What if posts elsewhere pointed to an additional personality type; what would that indicate? Can a body be more than one type?
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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