Talk With My 15yo Daughter Re 'Hitting The Wall'

[BeExcellent]

@BeExcellent be sure to caution your daughter that, in her early 20s, any undisciplined eating habit she may have developed as a teen WILL catch up with her. I've also found that, if you make it a point to keep yourself trim as a you can add you age, you will be less likely to face being over weight.. if you are yourself to gain weigyt, It's harder to take the weight off when you are older.

Agree totally. At 49 years old I am 5'6", 122 lbs., fit and work out regularly. BMI around 20. I still have an athletic but trim body...but I have to be disciplined to stay that way. So I do model good lifestyle choices. My daughter tends to gooble up boxes of cookies or crackers or chips so I've stopped buying those...sodas are another big culprit. I don't buy them but she gets them at restaurants and friend's homes.

It's a fine line between teaching healthy living & creating an eating disorder. I weigh several times a week and pay close attention to how my clothes are fitting. I'm hesitant to do that with her because I don't want her obcessed about her weight...but where she lives most of her peers are too heavy. Kids didn't used to be this fatty when I was growing up...so she doesn't think it's a big deal.

I'll keep walking that line. It ain't easy.

 

[devilkingx2]

LL: "Well she probably still could if she wanted to. Now let your dad tell you something serious here. When you get into your mid 30s or early 40s your going to hit the wall too.

Be wary that you worded that with the important clauses "unless you take very good care of your health and body or make a lot of money"

Accidentally telling her that she's doomed regardless of whether she drinks spinach smoothies or does coke will probably not turn out well lol

 

[devilkingx2]

Didn't even understand what gay properly was until i was 12. Remember first time a girl called me a "gaylord", didn't know what it was. Told her that she was the gaylord, and she said girls can't be. I was so confused lmao. Should just let kids be kids.

When i was 12 I had a thing for MILF porn

 

[logicallefty]

Be wary that you worded that with the important clauses "unless you take very good care of your health and body or make a lot of money"

Accidentally telling her that she's doomed regardless of whether she drinks spinach smoothies or does coke will probably not turn out well lol

Hmmmmmm.. Yeah I can see what you are saying. Not every woman at "wall age" turns fugly... I suppose my reasoning was I want my daughter to be as red pill as a female can be. God only knows what the dating market will be by the time she is in her mid 30s-early 40s. Could be back to traditional roles where women were submissive and feminine. If so then I am probably overdoing what I am telling her.. Who knows..

 

[Macaframalama]

When you get into your mid 30s or early 40s your going to hit the wall too.

Think Dad could have used a little more tact in his wording, other than describing as if turning 30 or 40 were some catastrophic event and that all she has to offer the world are her physical assets. Truth is, we will all "hit the wall" physically, despite gender. I would like to think we would all have something more to offer, after the looks start to fade. IDK the full context, but I'm not a fan of self-imposed limitations and to think a woman cannot be attractive in her 40's is nonsense. I have loved a small handful of women in my lifetime, but one being an early 40's psychologist, while I was in my mid 20's. Was she still put together physically, as well as the 20 somethings I was pulling in the same bar that I pulled her? No, but she wasn't anywhere near unattractive either, but that wasn't the point anyways. She approached me after all. I was drawn into her mind and her to my virility. I still see her grocery shopping, from time to time and while the sex was good and the physical attraction was there, that's the last thing that comes to mind, when I see her. I think if one gets to the point, that they feel they have nothing left to offer, they might as well wave the white flag and bite the bullet, because it's over anyways. If you are not growing, you are dying. Alot of us here, myself included, tend to forget that we are not the norm here. Maybe, we want more or maybe, our perception of more is skewed. The longer I am here and in this lifestyle, I can't help but feel, that maybe we are just a collection of dysfunctional individuals, trying to figure out how to get the "one up" on other dysfunctional individuals.

 

[devilkingx2]

Think Dad could have used a little more tact in his wording, other than describing as if turning 30 or 40 were some catastrophic event and that all she has to offer the world are her physical assets. Truth is, we will all "hit the wall" physically, despite gender. I would like to think we would all have something more to offer, after the looks start to fade. IDK the full context, but I'm not a fan of self-imposed limitations and to think a woman cannot be attractive in her 40's is nonsense. I have loved a small handful of women in my lifetime, but one being an early 40's psychologist, while I was in my mid 20's. Was she still put together physically, as well as the 20 somethings I was pulling in the same bar that I pulled her? No, but she wasn't anywhere near unattractive either, but that wasn't the point anyways. She approached me after all. I was drawn into her mind and her to my virility. I still see her grocery shopping, from time to time and while the sex was good and the physical attraction was there, that's the last thing that comes to mind, when I see her. I think if one gets to the point, that they feel they have nothing left to offer, they might as well wave the white flag and bite the bullet, because it's over anyways. If you are not growing, you are dying. Alot of us here, myself included, tend to forget that we are not the norm here. Maybe, we want more or maybe, our perception of more is skewed. The longer I am here and in this lifestyle, I can't help but feel, that maybe we are just a collection of dysfunctional individuals, trying to figure out how to get the "one up" on other dysfunctional individuals.

A woman can look bangable even when she's 50 or 60, it's just that there are only 3 routes:

1. God tier genetics, we've all met people who age 10 years and look the same, but this is a lottery

2. Extremely healthy lifestyle, but just like saving every cent you can so you can be rich at 50, living the lifestyle of a personal trainer and nutritionist will affect the quality of your life now, can you imagine the pain of forgetting what pizza or ice cream tastes like?

3. Lots of money, you can't control this as well as #2, but it's the perfect solution, you won't have to worry about aging if you can undo it with plastic surgery or prevent it entirely by paying other people to figure out how to make pizza healthy but delicious and then serve it to you

 

[sazc]

@BeExcellent be sure to caution your daughter that, in her early 20s, any undisciplined eating habit she may have developed as a teen WILL catch up with her. I've also found that, if you make it a point to keep yourself trim as a you can add you age, you will be less likely to face being over weight.. if you are yourself to gain weigyt, It's harder to take the weight off when you are older.

Ugh, my swype and lack of spell check strikes again!

If my children start to pudge because of snacks, overindulgence, etc my plan is to stop buying them for the house and tell them that I dont want them in the house because I will eat them. I figure if they get them at their friends, that is fine because they will spend the majority of their time at home or at their dads. I have dads full support on this.

Side note. My sister started gaining at 30. She's now obese and doing everything she can to take off weight that simply isnt budging because of her age and because of the habits she has developed (lifestyle) (overeating) for 20 years. I thank my lucky stars that I never let myself go. Simply maintaining gets to be difficult. I cant imagine trying to actively lose 30-50lbs after 40.

 

[sazc]

Hmmmmmm.. Yeah I can see what you are saying. Not every woman at "wall age" turns fugly... I suppose my reasoning was I want my daughter to be as red pill as a female can be. God only knows what the dating market will be by the time she is in her mid 30s-early 40s. Could be back to traditional roles where women were submissive and feminine. If so then I am probably overdoing what I am telling her.. Who knows..

IMO communicate that you want her to treat her body well. Exercise, eat well, indulge every now and then. Dont smoke, no drugs, light drinking, if any.

Assume the dating market will be crap and encourage her to get a good education and look for a man that is into her but has a normal attachment style when it comes to relationships.

What some of these guys miss (I feel) is that part of being alpha is understanding and developing a 'secure attachment style' and looking for people who reciprocate that secure attachment style.

IMO Alpha males are confident in their interaction because they are secure about themselves and their ability to screen.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ur-attachment-style-impacts-your-relationship

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Ideally, a young girl's upbringing is a preparation. It is a preparation to maximize her opportunities… and at the most opportune moment she needs to fire. Too many young people, are not prepared in this way... and when they get older they look back to those opportune moments, which never come back, and wonder why they squandered them.

What's going on I think is that people tend to think they have unlimited opportunities [thanks to media], but it simply isn't true. 'The days of our lives are like sand through the hourglass'.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I can see where @logicallefty is coming from in wanting to relate to his daughter... and educate her in a subtle way. It's a difficult one I guess because parents want to stay relevant to their children as they develop their outlook on life.

One thing I'd say is that a parent's job is by it's very nature conservative... parents want to protect their children. Consider that kids will get all the other side of the spectrum from their peers, from the education system, from the media etc. Why not just even it out with the most traditionalist ideas possible... leavened of course with love and affection? I mean, it's not like we can be our children's best friend right? They'll have plenty of those in life... but only one mother.. one father.

 

[logicallefty]

Think Dad could have used a little more tact in his wording, other than describing as if turning 30 or 40 were some catastrophic event and that all she has to offer the world are her physical assets. Truth is, we will all "hit the wall" physically, despite gender. I would like to think we would all have something more to offer, after the looks start to fade.

You really won't like the other thing I have told her, but you brought it up right here in what I have quoted. I have told her that her good looks will help her in some areas of life. But if she has no more to offer the world than her good looks, absolutely nothing else, then she should not assume she is a good person based on that and only that. I told her that good looks should and will compliment her in life, but not be her primary definition of who she is..

Good to hear everyone's perspective on my post, though..

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

That was entertaining and you were totally right and cool about it but if this is what 15 year olds talk about with their parents then theres no wonder why Americans are the most promiscuous in the world.

I'm not a parent, but I imagine parents have a tough time of it. Wanting to bridge the 'generation gap' they risk getting to buddy buddy. But their job is to parent to the best of their ability.

I remember my sister telling me how she'd always watch 'Sex and the City' with her adolescent daughter. In- a- ppro - pri-ate.

 

[logicallefty]

Just walked in from a bonfire with my daughter as I was browsing SS. I asked her "Have I told you too much as a parent? Should I tighten up and hold back on the truths and realities of life I have opened your eyes to?" Her answer: "FvCK NO Dad. You have helped me so much and you are the best dad ever"

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Like Lefty I have explained some about the "wall" to my older daughter. I try and be pretty straightforward about it...neither of my parents bothered to explain WHY staying a virgin until marriage is the best idea (it keeps you from STI exposure, unwanted pregnancy and most importantly it preserves the ability to emotionally bond in the deepest way because you haven't had your heart broken by a lover), and my parents never explained the value of beauty and its shelf life either. I was pretty clueless for a long time and I don't want my children to be similarly clueless.

Bravo.

Parents should hold out the highest ideals for their children... simply because they are not going to get them anywhere else. It then gives them real options in life. It doesn't really matter whether you observe these ideals yourself or not... it's simply doing your job of a parent.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Just walked in from a bonfire with my daughter as I was browsing SS. I asked her "Have I told you too much as a parent? Should I tighten up and hold back on the truths and realities of life I have opened your eyes to?" Her answer: "FvCK NO Dad. You have helped me so much and you are the best dad ever"

Wash her mouth out with soap I say!

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

(we continued our talk about SMV and the wall. My daughter totally gets it. Hopefully I just saved her and many men a lot of headache and heartache)

Hopefully, you've red pilled her, and mitigated the damage from your train wreck of an ex.

Running around naked in front of 15yr old daughter?

Did you procreate with a Neanderthal?

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Kids are going to do whatever the hell they want, despite what their parents tell them. Make sure they are surrounded by a solid group of friends that have integrity and great values. If your daughters friends are sluts, guess what, most likely she will also turn into a slut. They are influenced by their peers. Also, Its great that you guys have a good relationship but always make sure your daughter still knows you are the boss Lol

Very true which she is why he needs to red pill her. The alternative is letting her crater her SMV and be a train wreck like her mom.

His daughter is in the feminist edu system,girl power society, Sloot gonna Sloot, and then pedal victimhood after the wall.

@ op, lead by example. Red pill the **** out of her as in,tell the truth.

Tell your daughter what the world won't. Tell her not to just listen to you but, to think for herself. To question the status quo. To see the promo of girl power jeering women off the Cliff disguised in feminism and victimhood.

Her eyes will be opened one way or another.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Do not 'red-pill' children [turn them into 'realists']. Let them be children to run riot in their imagination for as long as possible. Hopefully some of that child-like quality will survive with them into adulthood.

 

[BeExcellent]

Agree. It's important that we don't bias our kids too much. When they are teens they need the freedom to a degree to form their own opinions without the often jaded perspective of the older generation.

This helps them develop a secure attachment style...which is extremely important in relationships.

 

[wifehunter]

If you are going to bring children into the world, it is an IMPERATIVE that you understand the social and financial economics, of how the world works.

Not all, but most parents fail because of ignorance and entitlement issues...

IOW, they think it is their right to have children, no matter what. Wrong, having children includes supporting them. They are NOT just glorified pets to be fed and cleaned up after.