Summer bootcamp week 2!!!!!!

[gonnamakeit]

Also forgot got a convo with a stranger who was an hb but was at work and she came over and sat with me. Stuff like that doesn'e count but still awesome practice.

Forgot one more opening attempt on the bus I had real bad hat hair I say wow worst hat hair ever. Basically to my whole area of the bus people look over but don't reply . Its cool though like it felt pretty easy just to yell out what I was thinking. And shows I am getting more of that feel comfortable around everyone/ at home everywhere feeling.

 

[gonnamakeit]

And guys looking at past bootcamps it seems people just fall of the earth in the middle not this bootcamp. Honestly the guys who didn't do week 1 weren't seriouse about improving themselfes at least not at this time so I am not talking bout them but from here on out if you don't finish a week all you do is start that week over. I'll even make a response/report thread this should be done in every bootcamp it sucks to see these guys like thyme who was real dedicated (hope I am wrong and he just hasn't reported yet) and looking great fail one week then no where to be found **** he did weeks 1-3 great and almost four he could just have to do week four one or two more times till he passes it then just keep going with the bootcamp don't let the progress fade away. So any who doesn't finishing this week or any other your not falling of the earth your just doing it over.

 

[Moon-Wolf]

Yo people, I just got back from an amusement park. (Walibi World) The first thing I noticed was the ratio between male and female. It seemed to be 35-65, I might consider it a place to game chicks in the future. I'm at 3/10 right now.

The funniest was when I was waiting in line for the El Condor, there where 4 little kids goofing around, 1 of them saw a package of mayonnaise like this one: http://catastrophysicist.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/mayonaisepacket.jpg He didn't think twice and stamped his foot on it, while I was leaning on the fench, the moyonnaise shoots and hits the lower back of my jeans. Right on that moment I grabbed the little kid and I literally cleaned myself with him. Everybody in line was laughing, and I got to open a very easy 4 set for the rest of the line.

 

[scrouds]

Hahhaa, that's awesome. I don't think I could do that, I almost have a kid phobia. I already do the "offhand" comment openers to people, i guess i don't stick around to chat. Still at 2/10, but looking forward to the farmer's market tomorrow, i'll be sure to just chill for a while (and bring a cooler for the veggies) and start conversations. I call the place the dog show, and its a great way to open people walking their dogs around.

I'm also setting a strict limit to making half of my opens towards women. I feel more comfortable and consequently have an easier time opening dudes in conversation.

 

[coffin]

my internet got cut off i still wanna be in the boot camp but i think i need to play catch up now what did i miss and hwo can i still finish this

 

[gonnamakeit]

Got 3 more today. First one just said hows it goin to the guy and convo started went real well cool guy. Some lady saw me in my work uniform and was going there so she stopped and gave me a ride and I had convo with her and ther guy she was given a ride too more with her I opened him like twice (plowing to open convo) after the ride but not too responsive. Last one said whatsup to the guy just got a nod and made like 3 more comments before got any real answers wasn't a great convo due to him not being to freindly but I did good since I was able to get him to open.

10/10

WEEK TWO COMPLETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still want to get more though cuz one you should always work on this stuff and its fun and two some of my convos are a little to easy like the lady just gave me a ride its pretty given I woulda talked to her. Also I had a great time at work I am getting more and more confident and way better socially everyday.

I opened or met and had long convos with like 4 new people. (I don't count ones with people working in my depertment like if you moved to a new school you have to talk to people and not every convo you had during each day would count.


Pretty funny moon-wolf. Also that place might be awesoe to get insta dates just appproach if its going well just be like lets go on this ride, super fun awesome insta date.

Coffin by 11:59 pm sunday you need 10 2-10 minute conversations with strangers next week is the same but the strangers have to be girls hot enough for you to date. Also read the djbc pdf link on first post read all the articles for the week. And I put you through cuz you techniqually did get week one done. But doing it at your job that you already had and not going out and doing extra in addition to your life isn't doing yourself any favors or getting you better than you are now.

Also Scrouds **** I realize I left you off the list again!!! you better get this week done so I can finally get you on the offical list next week.

C'mon everyone in this get this week done this is a big step take a small step next week and another big step after that and you're a totally different person. You may want to try going out and not commin back till you get it done.

 

[coffin]

iight well im goin out 2night so this week will be done 2night that aint gonna be a prob hopin this is gonna be good for me and make a change so i can get over my shyness cuz it takes me a lil before im able to act like myself around ppl and thanks for not cuttin me out cuz i do need this and am determined to finish this

 

[gonnamakeit]

Forgot I also opened people a few more times today without convos got good responses on a few but convo didn't continue don't remember all of em. But one was guy sprintin to bus and I just commented like wow good timming you just made it and smiled and he smiled back and agreed and we laughed.


Wooooo sumething really cool that I totally forgot the really cool part is that I did totally forget it. I actually didn't feel good or confident this morning I wanted to open but couldn't wasn't even makeing good eye contact . I thought of what rushingdude said bout forcing yourself on bad days and eventually got myself to open a lady I wasn't feeling great so it was crap and got a crap response (bad look) but I still felt a little better soon after I open the guy who was my first convo and it went great and I felt great for the rest of the day and had a great day. and COMPLETLY FORGOT that I didn't feel great for the entire day. AWESOME. Feels so good.

Its like oooh crap feel bad today not gonna be a good day then its just like **** that I didn't care how I feel when I wake up I am going to feel great today. Been noticing this with myself more and more I am happy most of the time and when I wasn't happy could get out of it. I had that ability for a few months. Now I am learning to do the same thing with my confidence/state. SICK

 

[gonnamakeit]

Yo coffin it;s not like I decide if u finish the week u get moved on if you don't you don't. And if you do not finish a week it's no biggie obviously you want to finish but if u don't u just start that one week over u still improve. Look at post #22 of this thread. (lol just noticed that posts are numbered)

 

[gonnamakeit]

Started reading week 3 articles and honestly some of these articles are fvcking garbage. Adonis' article is such crap. FVCK waiting for ec to avoid getting rejected and FVCK thinking girls don't like being approached (Especially if its a real man like we are becoming approaching them that'll make there day)(i printed out the bootcamp and read from the hard copy) I ripped that garbage article out. I am probably not going to read alot of the articles in this bootcamp they suck I don't want to use stupid ass tricks I want to build up the balls to say what I think and feel and act how I want not neg girls to bring to my level and ****. I am already at their level and I want them to know it.

 

[JCballin88]

Hey Guys!

So I'm really stupid...I had bookmarked the Week 1 topic and kept checking it, but no one was posting in it so I thought everyone was dead or something. I just stumbled onto this one and am glad to see that the dedicated ones are chugging along.

So anyways I have talked to a ton of people (the most ridiculous one was me kayaking literally across a lake here in MI to catch up to this guy in a boat who was fishing), and it's been awesome.

I don't know why, but somehow I'm getting a little ahead of the process. I have gotten several HB phone numbers, and already am starting to plan "dates" and things.

The HB7.5 from class last week gave me a big kiss on the cheek last night. We had a great time at the beach last weekend and are planning something again to "study" before our test Tuesday.

I also #-closed the hottest girl in my morning summer class, an HB8 redhead. She is also 22 and after talking to her found out that she is single and would definitely like to hang out with me soon.

That brings me to my new favorite girl, who is an HB8 brunette who works at the front desk at the YMCA where I am a camp counselor. She recently broke up with her b/f of 2 years. I didn't even know about this until halfway through our conversation the other day. But she really wants to hang out with me since I'm new up here and she wants to avoid her b/f and all the mutual friends they have.

Ok so after talking to her and getting her number, she literally calls me 1 hour later when I got home. She wanted to see if I was interested in going all the way to Cedar Point this weekend with her and some friends. It would be 2 nights of camping and 1 whole day at the park She clearly told me how everyone else had a b/f or g/f and that she was the "odd girl out". How sweet is that? But anyways we planned it, and then the driving situation got all messed up, and I ended up not being able to go. She was going to stay behind and hang out with me since I took off work today, but was unaware that her friends had still bought her a ticket and had room for just 1 more.

So I let her go to Cedar Point without me, made her promise to hang out with me some more and she still wants to go "camping" at this really pretty place somewhere around here. She's the one I'm starting to fall for most heavily, so I've got to take it easy here.

 

[JCballin88]

Oh and guys one of the things I think has definitely paid off for me is the intense lifting that I did at my college over the past 8 months. I went like 3-4 times per week and have put on almost 25 pounds since last summer. Now I suppose I actually have a decent body which certainly doesn't work against me in things like outdoor beach volleyball, which was what I did with the HB7.5 for a while last weekend.

 

[gonnamakeit]

So thats where you were lol. I was wondering what had happened to you.


You are doing amazing awesome to see you makeing such fast progress number closing and everything already. You already got 10 convos this week I am amusming right?

 

[gonnamakeit]

Oh and guys one of the things I think has definitely paid off for me is the intense lifting that I did at my college over the past 8 months. I went like 3-4 times per week and have put on almost 25 pounds since last summer. Now I suppose I actually have a decent body which certainly doesn't work against me in things like outdoor beach volleyball, which was what I did with the HB7.5 for a while last weekend.

Yes lifting is awesome its really helping me. Plus aside from the body and everything it just makes you feel better and more confident.

 

[gonnamakeit]

Also curiouse. Were you getting/dating girls pre bootcamp if not it's really amazing what happened so quick and also do what you want but in my opinion don't make that girl u like to seriouse or your girlfreind cuz your makeing such good progress and a relationship right now would screw with that. I am going to do that too during the bootcamp will all get girls interested and what not but maintaing that ability to get girls easily for a couple months I think is best for all of us before we do relationships which could make us lose the opportunity to cement that progress since we would be to comfortable. (comfort vs growth)

 

[JCballin88]

Yeah my circumstances living in a brand new city makes it almost impossible not to talk to new people every day. Here's a few examples:

Guy in the middle of the lake: We talked about fishing, and he told me where I could find and target the fish I'm looking for. I then talked to him about trolling for trout out there which was cool.

YMCA Gym: I talked to 4-5 different guys over the course of the week just about various things like being new to the area, what I'm doing, where I'm from, etc.

YMCA: Talked to a cool lady that has worked there for a while who I'd traded some witty banter with since I got there. She's pretty cool and wants to take me to this thing called the Cherry Festival (but I think she was joking b/c she is married with a young child)

Men's Basketball (Tues/Thurs nights) - Talked with a whole handful of guys of different ages. It's so easy...all I have to slip into any conversation early-on is "well I'm new to the area so I'm still getting used to things around here." That almost always leads them into asking where I'M from, what I'm doing around here, etc.

My female cousin had a few girls over my age the other night who I talked to and had laughing pretty hard over some different things. I was pretty tired from my busy day at work though, and they were all watching a girls TV show, so I didn't linger too long.

Kmart: I was standing in line to get my fishing license, and since I'm from New York State it literally took 5 people over 30 minutes to figure out how to ring it up on the machine. During this time I cracked jokes with the various employees who were slightly embarrassed that they couldn't figure it out. It made them much more relaxed and kept things feeling less tense. There was also a middle-aged guy lingering who also needed a fishing license and I talked to him while the employees were working. He was so cool about having to wait and everything...and he was pretty funny too.

 

[JCballin88]

Also curiouse. Were you getting/dating girls pre bootcamp if not it's really amazing what happened so quick and also do what you want but in my opinion don't make that girl u like to seriouse or your girlfreind cuz your makeing such good progress and a relationship right now would screw with that. I am going to do that too during the bootcamp will all get girls interested and what not but maintaing that ability to get girls easily for a couple months I think is best for all of us before we do relationships which could make us lose the opportunity to cement that progress since we would be to comfortable. (comfort vs growth)

Sorry I didn't see this or I would have included it above:

Ok first part: Dude, this is pretty scary, but no, I have had terrible luck with girls until I moved out here for the summer. The only g/f I've ever had was a 1-week thing when I was 17, and it was horrible and barely counts for anything. Basically my college is really small and full of weird girls who are essentially looking to just get married, and there are so many lame guys who get their g/f and just become really hostile to anyone else.

If I'm home from school, I pretty much just wake up, sit around on the computer all day, wishing I had a social life/friends, and go to bed depressed. My parents even make a point to tell me often that I need to get out and do things with people, but I always just get moody and continue sitting around on my butt.

Since I came out here to MI everything has been like a blur. I just told myself, "**** it, I have nothing to lose," and that's the attitude I've portrayed pretty much from day 1.

I'm seriously scared about what's going to happen in August when I have to go home for a week and then back to PA for college. Hopefully I'll be a transformed guy and can take my learnings back there, but I feel like a lot of people who know me will be like "wtf has gotten into him?" and it will be strange.

And you're right, I can't bother getting too attached to these girls, because I'm going to have to leave them all here in August when I go home. It's going to be so tough though...I seriously want to just move here. It's been so much fun. But unfortunately I have 2 more years of school, and this summer is just a fun escape from my normal routine at home, and that's about it.

But if I can take my new-found set of cojones back to wherever I eventually end up, that will be a success. I just needed a kick-in-the-pants to get going, and now I realize how easy it is to just go up to people and say something situational, and boom! You have a conversation, and possibly even a HB.

If you want a specific example, the HB8 from my am class, here's how it happened. I saw her drinking something from a coffee store, and went right up to her after class and asked her where it was, how good the coffee is, etc. Since I established myself, I kept talking to her the next 2 classes, and then yesterday we got done early and we walked around campus for a while and talked about a lot of different things. I then asked if she would like to plan to hang out with me, and she readily agreed and asked me if I had my phone, and told me her #.

It's really kind of scary how easy it is, if you just have the balls to initially approach.

 

[gonnamakeit]

Dude that is awesome. Don't worry you are a different person now it's going to stay with you wherever you go and you're going to get even better throughout this bootcamp.

I put a lot into improving myself last summer I went back to the same school. I was as low as you can go as far as social status and same boat as u with girls before last summer. It is acutally an amazing feeling to go back to the same place and seemingly same situation you were in and realize everything is now different. You may get a few people testing you but since you gain so much and change so much you'll be fine and you'll love the shock you see them have when they test you and you just don't give a fvck. Changing makes you stand out more than anything else it's so awesome everyone I know is the same cept me I am always improving it's so cool to see how as you change and nothing else changes in reality everything else changes as a result of you changing.


It's great really this year I heard people whispering bout how I got more confident and have people comment on how I walk like I rule the world now
and I have gotten the comment "you don't care what anyone thinks I wish I could do that". Trust me reinventing yourself in a new town is awesome but being in the same town and haveing everyone who thought you were a loser see you blosom into something amazing and achieve everything you have wanted to achieve and dreamed about for years before you got there is even better.
I can't wait for everyone next year to see the changes I made this summer and prove em wrong (had guys saying I couldn't get girls or wouldn't get laid and other crab bull****) I want them to test me and think what the fvck is he doing I want them to feel threatened it won't effect the new person I become (and you'll become) It feels great.

 

[scrouds]

Went out tonight, chilled at a local restuarnat/bar, opened on a chick that happened to be one of the bartender's mothers visiting from texas, and just kept chatting with the people at the bar as they came and went.
But before that, took a stroll along the lake, saw a couple taking picutes, opened offered to take pics of both of them, chatted them up. Tourists can be fun, and its nice to see some of them seeing the orlando that isn't disney. Told them I always wanted to go visit Montreal, where they're from and they were like next year next year. Its was pretty cool, great start. Then some chick says hi to me in passing (wonder maybe if she's doing a bootcamp ) but was too quick to start a convo really. Also opened a group of guys feeding the fish in the lake.

I came to a realization from the hello lesson last week. All the bullsh*t little forumlas, all the progessions, they aren't good. Opne and say hi whenever whoever in whatver time frame you want, just leave some space to start a conversation if that's what you want.

Anyways, not counting the bartender, or the waitress that I met last time i was there (more on that later) wound up chatting up 4 people at the bar, at least 2 regulars, and I'm thinking it was a nice place to become a regular as well, so I'll be sure to see them again. Back to the waitress, I kinda get vibes off of her that's more then just your friendly waitress chatter, so I might need to make something happen next time I'm in there. Hopefully it won't be so busy and I can start up a proper conversation, or something at least.

Then walked over to the cigar bar, opened the girl in a couple at the bar. making fun of the $20k bottle of scotch they had on the menu and otherwise having fun, brought the dude into the convo too. Opened another girl that came up to the bar, somewhere in my head said i should # close her or something, that brought out a little nervousness, so I put that away and told myself the task at hand was to just chat people up, so I chilled on that. Also opened a couple dudes at the cigar bar, one said he's a regular over there come the weekends, so I'll probably run into him as well in the future.

So I'm done this week 11/10 officially. I think I'm developing a little swagger too.

 

[Moon-Wolf]

Just did 1 more, 4/10.

Started reading week 3 articles and honestly some of these articles are fvcking garbage.

I agree with that. Most of my pua material comes from RSD, and they are just ballsy and do what they want, to get the results they want. They aren't waiting for ec and ****, they make the ec once they get into a conversation.

I will still be doing the exercises, but i'll search up my own reading material and post it here, so we can discuss it and use what has value for the bootcamp.