Summer bootcamp week 2!!!!!!

[gonnamakeit]

ALRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations guys who have completed week one
gonnamakeit
jbcallin
coffin
moon wolf
darles chickens

I am sure we have all got a huge confidence boost and are definitely closer to our goals and dreams. And of 100s of guys on this site who have not completed the bootcamp who saw the signup thread didn't sign up and out of the 22 who had the balls to sign up and make a commitment to change only half them even made an attempt and only half them suceeded so this just hows special all of us who made it are. Remember how rare it is for someone to be doing what you are doing to improve and the drive and dedication we have any girl we meet during this bootcamp is one of the luckiest girls alive to get a chance with guys like us.

Link to bootcamp
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/djbc.pdf

Maybe some of your freinds have seen changes in you already? But makes sure to beware of crabs throughout the bootcamp

The article that made me find this site

http://stronglifts.com/the-crabs/


K guys I am pumped for more changes. LETS DO THIS!!!!!!!!:rockon:

 

[Darles Chickens]

Congrats to those who made it through the first week. Thought there would be more through to week 2 but i guess it's just us from now on.

I'm determined to continue through with this as even though i've been on and off this board for a few years now i need to progress more and have always wanted to see the bootcamp through to the end. I also remember watching RSD Blueprint and Tyler talking about how a sticking point with many people trying to improve their women/life skills is that the mind almost refuses to accept the new state or reality. He mentioned that many times it is easier for someone to continue with the a frame of mind that they are doing "ok" in their present state so therefore the need for change is well, not needed or accepted by the individual. I guess this whole process is about letting go of that old state of mind and coming to terms with new reality.

Had my first day today of wk2 and managed only 1/10 as i was super busy all day. Talked to one of the secretaries at work who i have never met and started by asking her how long she had worked there etc just general stuff that lasted about 5mins. I have quite a relaxed attitude and got the most out of this when we were just vibing before she asked me what i did before work uni etc blah, blah, blah!

Will do more tomorrow for sure.

DC

 

[gonnamakeit]

Great stuff darles I am definetly going to keep that in mind it applies to me today as well.

Ok first off good news great day at work I am new and was in a group of people who know each other for ahwile I was very confident and part of convo. Basically went great overall was very very happy with my behaviour my social circle confidenc/ skills is way up and used to not be one of my strengths. I didn't know a lot of the people in the group I was speaking two but new some and I intiated conversation with two people I didn't know before. Also the nature of my job got me like 3- convos with strangers.

Ok more good was started a convo that was goin great on a bus at first didn;t have balls to do it but after ahwile forced self to.

the not good by the time I got the balls and started the convo the person got off two seconds later so it was only like 20 seconds doesn't count (but still real proud I did my job and pushed my self to open and did it very well) More not good I don't count the ones from work they are too guranteed convos that are so easy aren't going to get me to where I need to be and won't prepare me for week 4. I went out walked two miles to get too a store ended up getting none there.
so 0/0

So what tyler says applies this wasn't good enough I need to get better and step it up this week just like I will every week expect betterand better from myself do better and better and become great.

So tomorrow I am posting this for everyone to see I expect no less than 4 short convos with strangers from myself thats my commitment.

 

[Darles Chickens]

Keep going gonnamakeit!

I think an important thing to try and remember is to keep relaxed but to also get that mix between a relaxed mood and a determination to try and approach and start convos with strangers. I deffo feel that the making eye contact and saying hi to people helps keep you in an approachable frame of mind and makes it easier for people to approach you. In a way you need to let go of all your preconceptions about how it going to turn out/ will it fail/ will you be laughed at etc and enjoy the moment. Who gives a sh*t about what they really think as long as your not an a-hole to them and provide value.

I got one more today in a lift so i'm 2/10 but need to start initiating more. COME ON GONNAMAKEIT...WE CAN DO THIS!!

DC

 

[Moon-Wolf]

Yo everybody! Concrats om making it so far. I'm really pumped up after reading all your posts, my plan is doing 3 every day, starting tomorrow.

And about last week, I keep on saying hi to random strangers. Its someting I want to have has a habit.

 

[gonnamakeit]

Ok guys I opened like 8 people but only 2 turned into convos. This I think was because I was a bit over focused so my openers didn't sound quite right or friendly but I calmed down and the 2 convos were both like 20 min one maybe more and were great. Its good since I opened and failed so many times opening will be way easier for tomorrow and the rest of the week so I can relax and just open and get convos on most of my openers.

I got maybe 5-8 greetings of people which is good. I was kinda un confident today but suprisingly a lot of girls made ec with me normally I get that when I feel good. 2/10 Better than yestarday I will get better and better everday.

Good idea moon-wolf I am working the greetings two I realize whats best for me is to just go out with the intention of greeting a few people get 5 or 10 then I am in state feel great and convos come easy so I need to remember to do that not go into robo cop mode where I am tryin to hard to find people to talk to and stuff to say which is the only way to not have something to say. I want to be in fun social mood have something to say then when I push myself is when I don't say then just push myself to say it just give myself that little push to say whats in my head.



Hell ya darles WE CAN DO THIS and WE WILL DO THIS every day we are getting closer to our goals and our dreams.

And look at how much we are doing and the balls we have and the drive we have to do this stuff how many other people are like us? That makes us probably twice as rare as an HB9 so if they have any sense they'll be dying to be with us. It's gonna be so great in a few weeks we'll be dating like 3 or 4 beautiful girls at a time and approaching will be not 2nd nature 1st nature.

 

[gonnamakeit]

Alright just got another one 3/10. I am super happy. the convo wasn't perfect I went a bit downhill and become un-confident and a bit awkward like a minute in. BUT the great part was I was way more relaxed opening since I did it so many times yestarday it came natural. I am super happy cuz yestarday I forced myself to open like 8 times with mostly crap results/responses but I see today that it had a huge effect on me i would've expected my opening to become this good at like the end of the week not after just two days.

Tyler Durden talks about progression you get good at opening, then you can carry a 5 minute convo then you learn to close then you learn to get good at day twos then sex. So it'll be like this week we learn opening + being able to carry a convo (I got opening workin on convo improvement) next week we transfer it to girls and learn better approaches then we do the third progression closing weeks 5 and 6 we learn day 2s then 7 8 we'll get even better cement it and learn to get good at progressing physically and to sex. ****ING AWESOME!!!! if you ask me.


Also a cool story I learned ahwile ago.

There are three men building and laying bricks. Someone walks up to the first man and says what are you doing and he says very unhappily uuggghhhh I am I am laying bricks. Someone warlks up to the second man and says what are you doing he looks fairly indifferent shugs looks up at the wall in front of him and says I am makeing a wall . Someone walks up to the third man and says what are you doing? The man gives a huge smile steps back looks at what is in front of him and shouts with happyness I am CREATING a cathedreal!!!

Same with us everday we are going out working through this bootcamp we adding to ourselfes we are CREATING what we consider to be the ideal man we want to be and CREATING the ideal lives for ourselfes. Each week we work on of the bootcamp and the other things we are doing to improve ourselfs (learning new skills,moving up in job,finding our passion,pursuing our passion,lifting, whatever we want) we are makeing ourselfes and our lives greater.

But you don't need this in your head every second sometimes when you get a breakthrough in your improvement like I did today just enjoy that present moment of doing something new and enjoyable. Find the balance of focus (on the present or on what you are creating) that works for you.

 

[gonnamakeit]

BTW guys check out fascinating new thing by semisonic in the recommended music from the bootcamp. it puts me in a good mood let me know of any other ones that put you in a good mood or make you feel confident. It could be considered AFC since it says the girls perfect and stuff. But it's not one of those sad needy love songs which I'd never listen to it's all positive lyrics that put me in a good mood. ANd listenin to it hasn't yet made me get oneitis and show up outside some girls house with flowers and go outside her window with a boombox playin the song over my head lol. Heres a link to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duz_-yULkcw I just minimize the video lol.

And any i used to get oneitis noticed a pattern demystified it and don't see myself in much danger of it since I can see if I am gonna get it not to say I am not open to an eventual relationship (gonna spend time dating multiple hbs for a while first though) but If my feelings for a girl are negative like neediness or nervouse I know how to recognize it and nip it in the bud.

 

[scrouds]

I got 2 conversations on monday. One was with this guy working at a cigar shop, that def lasted over 10 minutes. The other was with a guy waiting for someone in target to find a lid for a tupperwear box. That was only a few minutes.

I'm noticing that people in the burbs are less chatty, more shy and reserved with this. I live in downtown orlando, but commute out the the burbs. This target was on my way home, stopped to look for a plastic chest, and tried to chat up the guy. A lot of orlando is shy as hell, it still shocks me, despite living here for a few years now.

On the other hand the guy at the shop does his 9-5 at an office downtwon and moonlights at the shop, also downtown, and retreats to the burbs at night. Ahhhh commuting.

I was in a mood yesterday due to not sleeping well, and probably will be like that today. I'll try to get at least one out tho, and work on the sleep thing, since its seriously going to burn me out if i don't figure out what keeps waking me up.

 

[Moon-Wolf]

Gonnamakeit! You said you where 17? Goddamn your posts are fun to read. They are very motivational for me, keep them up!

I just chickened out today, I was forcing myself to approach, kept it going in my head and before I knew it. Too much pressure was built, I said hi but it didn't last 10 seconds before I ejected. Just going to chill the next time ;p

I'll be off to work in a few hours, that should give me people to talk with.

 

[Darles Chickens]

Easy now!

Got two more today so 4/10. One was another short convo in a lift (elevator) but it carried on when we got out side. I find these ones quite amusing as people rarely make conversation in lift. In fact i remember a video about a PUA where he is showing a guy how easy it is just to go around and be friendly/ nice with people and just have conversations and interactions with people. Anyway, the guy ends up getting in the lift/elevator with the student in a store somewhere and opens a convo with an older woman with the line "isn't if funny how people never talk in elevators" or something along those lines. I always get reminded of this whenever i'm in the same situation and everyone is just silent.

Anyways. The elevator convo was with a mother and young child and basically revolved around us both being amused by the childs behavior in the lift. The kid kept pressing all the buttons which made us stop at pretty much every floor and kept the convo going for about 5 mins.

The second was with a girl from work hb7 who i had seen around and had even said hi to on several occasions in last weeks task. It was basically about what she did at work and how she was going back to uni in a few months which. Once again this lasted about 5 mins or so but i was able to maintain good eye contact and lots of smiling throughout.

I want to try and extend the conversation time in the next couple of approaches and try for more outside of work.

Keep it up everyone!

DC

 

[gonnamakeit]

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[gonnamakeit]

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[gonnamakeit]

I got one more convo. It was short but opening was super easy it was with two dudes and they responded real well I actually cut it short to earlier they obviously wanted to talk more. I was walking in the future a good convo like that I will stop to continue. 4/10

I opened up another guy he was obviously in a bad mood but it was super easy for me to open and I was good forced him to reply he's lookin away I geuss tryin not to reply and I just keep lookin at him forced reply. He's not gettin away with ignorin me.

Not many opportunities but I did well and took the ones that were their and it took me like 1/4 of the time and was like 3 times as relaxed would of got more but was raining all day I went out in between rainings and it was raining before I got back both times. (No car, no bike rarely have rides I walk). I got like 15 greetings more or less didn;t keep track they are pretty automatic now (awesome) . Also I convey confidence so well now my walk is super confident it used to be when I felt good now it always is look in my eyes is real confident and am learning as I start to feel better and better to have always a little smile on my face ( not like a technique like I am actually happy and smiling) Apparently this isn;t cool it's cool to be angry and unhappy so some puss with a sideways hat yells faggit at me (in a moving car)

This was actually a good thing cuz It made me care way less bout what people think. It's like really? I actually cared about this before LOL. The kid was just so insignificant and it is so obviouse I am better than he is. Guys like us are out their improving our lives showing drive and balls whats he doing sitting in a car with a sidways hat yelling out of jealousy and Drving to get away full speed. Reminds me of my favorite speech ever which sums up guys like him


It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Lets go out their and live by the speech every day for the rest of our lives lets see where this takes us a week, two weeks, a month or a year from now.

Guys like us get to see changes in ourselfs every WEEK guys like him will be the same year after year. I have seen this for a fact from last school year to this one the increased confidence and happiness I have gotten makes my personality not even recognizable I would hear people whispering about how I;ve gotten more confident and everyone else is the exact same they were last year and the kids from freshman year are again the exact same three years later.

All of us will see even more changes than that probably even in like 3 more weeks of this bootcamp imageine what we'll be next year!!!!!!!

In other news. Kind of funny some old lady I think again cuz of my bouncy step and happy look says hi cutie to me. LOL

 

[gonnamakeit]

Also saw one hb not many out since as many of us know hbs are solar powered. I held ec with her for ahwile (at least I think I hate there damn sunglasses it was overcast out lol) very confidently which I wanted to work on. I didn;t say anything but again I almost said your cute which I know I didn't but the idea of doing it didn't seem to far off and didn't make me nervouse which is a great sign of things to come.

Really glad to hear that moon-wolf I hope we can all feed off of each others motivation and positivity.

 

[Moon-Wolf]

I just listened to The science of self confidence - audio book. Normally I don't like audio books because you search for the exact piece of advice you are looking for. But this has 60 around six minutes mp3 files. So you can hear directly what you want to begin with.

The science of self confidence explains why and how it is very important to set goals and value's, the biggest thing I learned from it is the exact spot where self confidence comes from. Its making values, goals and beliefs and whatever happens, that you (within reason) never breakt them down or abandon them. When you stick to them you will feel as if you can take on much bigger goals, helping you to accomplish whatever you wish to gain.

 

[scrouds]

Well no real conversations, but its time to post. Attitude is something that totally effects this process. I wasn't in the mood to deal with anything yesterday, wound up going to target. Made eye contact with some people, didn't say hi, kind of reversed myself on this stuff. That being said, I'm still gaining lessons from last weeks' exercise. I was checkin one girl out, apparently she noticed, looked down, smiled and fiddled with her hair. Guess I should have said hi.

The question I have, is how do you muster the attitiude. Does it eventually become natural, even during the "bad days?"

 

[Darles Chickens]

The question I have, is how do you muster the attitiude. Does it eventually become natural, even during the "bad days?"

It will eventually come naturally and that's what we are all hoping. As we continue we will see the change in attitude of those around us and within ourselves I guess the important thing to remember is that it's going to be uncomfortable even at this stage to some extent. I mean we are (and i can speak for myself on this) going through the changes that will take us to where we want to be. I feel like i'm ending years of social conditioning that has only led to me becoming a more introverted human being rather than the happy, outgoing and naturally charming one i know i can be...and have been on a number of occasions in my life. The IMPORTANT thing is to go through the barrier and find those reference points that will help you get to where you want to be. AND THAT'S THE DIFFICULT PART FOR SO MANY PEOPLE!

As we continue through the bootcamp you will adjust and re-calibrate so that you have those life experiences. It's the brick building process that gonnamakeit talked about and you will need to continue on through the road and find, through the experiences you have, who you really are and what you really want out of life and women etc. BUT YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE IT THERE!

Going back to the point about how you master the attitude what your probably struggling with is how to get yourself in a mood to feel confident enough to approach and talk to strangers. Well the way to do it is say fvck it and just do it. The attitude you want to have when you are not feeling confident is that you know you are in a frame of mind where you think it going bad etc but you are just going to say screw that and just go with it. It's probably as simple as that at this stage. I mean all i'm really telling you is all it takes to approach some is just to go up and say hi. Just TRUST yourself and do it.

Good luck scrouds. Make the most of it!!

DC

 

[rushing dude 123]

Well scrouds if u put the effort in to approach on ur bad days and gain that experience, then yes everytime u do it, it will come a lot natural from my experience, but perfection is something u will not acquire, it is the fact that there is never a certanty that makes this thing so interesting. But yeh well done to those who made it, i know this thing can b very hard, but once u make it at the end of the tunnel the rewards r priceless.

U guys seem pretty dedicated and are reporting regularly so from this point make no more of u guys go, because fear will try to stop u, but if u can defeat ur fear the gates to ur dreams will be open.

I won't wish u luck, just purely because djs would never rely on it. I have confidence though that some people on this site will put that effort in to improve themselves. People say the worst thing is not knowing what the right thing to do is, but i believe the worst thing in my opinion is knowing what is the right thing to do and not doing it.

Peace my dj brothers.

 

[gonnamakeit]

Alright speaking of attitude mine fells much much better was just thinking about that I am feeling more and more confident and happy each day of the bootcamp and it show. Its so amazing how girls thoughts on attractive are so connected by the emotions you are showing at the time. I have been called ugly by girls before but when I am happy and confident and walk with confidence which is way more common for me now I get told I am cute and have girls check me out all the time.

Today some girls where all talking bout how I looked like some guy from some band and how the guy from that band was gorgeouse. (they were very young though funny this like 13ish yearold girl actually said this to me.

Before I forgot was just awesome on my way home I saw a hot jogger she gave me this real sexy flirty smile and I now automatically said a loud whatsup with a flirty smile back.

And also good to see rushing dude in this thread its great there are alot of guys in both bootcamps who are real dedicated awesome two going at once with dedicated guys really makes the forum great and about really getting to be where you want to be. There should always be a few bootcamps going on.

I got 3 convos today one was in the morning with an older women was very enjoyable and super natural and easy (Basically today when I had an opportunity it was pretty automatic). Got another one that was like 20-25 minutes that was with two people a guy and girl round my age (she wasn't an hb though) got one with the bus driver this barely should count but since I had two convos with people at the same time and counted it as one and it was nearly half an hour I'll count it.

7/10

I also opened a guy who I beleive may of been crazy. He had the top of a drum with peaces of tape sort of set up like a keyboard and was drumming/typing on it for like half an hour straight seemingly fading in and out. I asked him if he played drums he said yes then asked me for money "for the next train" then I said I didn't have it he asked for less I said I have no money. He sounded like he was probably on heroin he stared at me when I said i had no money be careful who you have convos with. lol

Also got loads of greetings didn't count but it's awesome just as a wanted basically just a habit and smiling is way easier. Another thing I make ec with people a lot and smile at them I just keep looking at them and smiling till they smile back. Its really cool makes you feel good someone lookin real seriouse/unhappy then you smile at them and its just natural when you give them a big real smile WITH EC it they automatically give a big smile back.