Suave1's Approach/Dating Journal

[Suave1]

Pandemic. Indoor masking.

Oh, I think that's overblown now. It wasn't in the summer of last year, but I don't think many people(outside 10% or so of the population that has an autoimmune disease or they're just crazy) care that much. Think about it this way - if they were *that* afraid of covid they'd just be staying home. My university offers fully online classes still. Also, anyone can get groceries and stuff delivered now too. So, besides going to work, you could effectively never leave your house.

I approach only the girls without masks as of now, but I'm most likely going to be approaching girls with masks soon. I look at it the opposite way - people are starved for genuine social interaction.

 

[Suave1]

Day 26
2 approaches
Approach 1: 9/10. Gorgeous, big eyes brownish-black hair. Pretty thic and muscular. This was a fun one. I could tell just from my interaction she was a very high value girl, not just from her looks, but also her mindset. She wasn’t bitchy and asked me a lot of questions, but she seemed to be reserved slightly. Went for the close and said she had a boyfriend. Fun approach though! Need more like those

Approach 2: 7/10. Short, curly gold hair, skinny. She hooked instantly. She seemed very chill too. One thing I’m getting internalized is looking at girls like you want to **** them. Basically imagine in your head you ****ing them, which comes across in the way you look and talk to them. I did it here and it went well I think! Got her number. One area for improvement would be ask for insta-date, unfortunately I had a commitment right after so I couldn’t go for it. (Note for future readers - Only use the eye **** technique on girls that have hooked and are into you. Can come across creepy otherwise)

On another note, I saw one of the girls I cold approached a couple days ago. This time, I knew for certain I approached her because I'm doing the facial recall system I previously talked about. So the system is working, which is great.

Day 30 is coming up! To celebrate, I'm doing a forum post called something along the lines of "Things I've learned from 30 days of approaching"(really like 45 days bc I don't count weekends). Does anyone have any questions or things you want me to emphasize more?

Also: I am going to start to post my text threads for feedback. I made a separate thread(see here), but I'll also post the link to the screenshots here for cohesion. I'd love feedback!

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[Suave1]

Day 27
Campus empty(veterans day). 0 approaches
Day 28
0 approaches
I let my emotions get the best of me today. I walked around for 30 minutes and missed 5 opportunities. The biggest thing for me was basically not having much of a sex drive. I watched porn Thursday and saw my FWB in the night, so I was depleted. The sex was good, but the porn is NOT good. Still working to remove that habit. It's so ****ing hard, lol...(not a laughing matter though)

By the way, thank you to everyone who replied on my thread asking for texting advice! The general conclusions I made were... too eager by validating her career so early and being very agreeable over text, shouldn't have went for a date the second time after she ghosted me(should have ended that convo, started another one then asked out), and been more flirty. Still learning how to do this last item - at least over text. In person is my strong suit.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Day 24
2 approaches
Approach 1: 8.5/10. Brown hair straight, glasses, beautiful face. I previously walked around for 45 minutes before talking to her. It's crazy how approach anxiety stops us sometimes, even though we are pretty proficient at game and have gotten success from it. That's still something I have to master. This was an easy approach because she was sitting down, and I was walking past. I delivered my opener and she was kind of caught off guard. I was a bit nervous and I think my volume was 20% higher than it should have been. She said she had a boyfriend(that actually made me less nervous a little) and then we talked for a minute after.

Approach 2: 6.5/10. Very curvy, chubby-ish face. Curly hair. She was sitting down. This time I didn't have as much anxiety. The line came out great. I think it came out too smooth actually, I didn't put enough energy behind it(I was tired - just got out of class). She said she had a boyfriend but she said thank you.

I feel like both girls today I approached were a bit nervous. I think that the reason is I was nervous, which then transfers over to them through my microexpressions. I have to work on removing the fear I have around approaching. I'm not weird for it, I'm just confident and go after what I want. This isn't an overnight fix I don't think, unfortunately.

I also met up with the chick I had sex with from last week again! We had sex, it was pretty good. She texted me at midnight "I can't stop thinking about our time together today"... that was a good feeling! Honestly, moments like those make dealing with the approach anxiety and fear worth it.
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This may be counter to what some may say on this forum, but I would actually recommend taking classes. There are easy certificate programs offered by most colleges if you don't want to do degree seeking classes. Why? You'll have similarities between the girls, you will have a student ID to swipe into buildings, and you'll also probably gain career resume points as well. There are programs that are 1-2 classes a semester and a walk in the park. You could decide not to do that, but I've never had success gaming at a college I didn't go to. I've actually tried *a lot*, over 50 approaches at this college 45 mins away from me. I feel like college is an insulated community, and girls are hesitant to go out with a guy they just met on campus, outside of campus. Coffee dates on campus work best for 1st dates. That's my opinion based on my experience, don't let me tell you what to do.

Another reason why you want to recharge after a workout and pickup is to recover the energy you output. I blasted 7 nights a week for ages. Lost count on late nights and the amount of crazy experiences. You see the worst behavior in women which is a great reason to meditate. I got into hiking as well the past few years. I love outdoorsand being in nature.

Something else you can also do is take away from the experience. Robert Green had "keys to..." said lesson. Would then have "reversal", something opposing to the lesson. Simply take something from the experience to avoid what Strauss referred to as "social robots." Can chat but get no real success. Reflect but over analyzing is mental masturbation. Part of learning pickup, you are going through the motions. Calibrate after the fact. This herein lies what separates substance from a robot.

College sadly isn't like when I was on my come up. Likely when I was young like you. Women are programmed to be combative feminist and perpetrators one sec only to fallback on victimhood the next. MTR bumped a old Sasha video where a woman could come up with women's qualities but got offended by him saying men are stronger. You can see the crazy in her facial expressions and mannerisms. These people are predators and they will wreck your life. @SW15 has got it right with the sniper approach. On our come up, pickup was starting to get attacked by SJWs and feminists. It's on steroids now. Highly disingenuous when dorks on YouTube champion how easy it is but of course married. No receipts. I will be the first you say that it's harder now than it was when I started. It's not getting better.

Good insights. You were nervous. So she is. There's reference to the law of state transference. Whatever you want, go for. Generate good vibes. Go first. A mind hack I use, I approach as if we had already smashed. 0 ****s. No pressure. Assume attraction. Guage interest level. Tes5 compliance. Break rapport. Dont build it. Far too often the mistake a lot if guys make is they pander and supplication. "Do you like me now? How about now?" The play is to cannon ball in. Take up space. Be obnoxious even belligerent (almost). Inject your personality in. Not everything. Not deep convo. Just enough to bait her.

Lastly, assume that you won't ever see her again so **** it. Take your shot. Don't hesitate. Even if nervous, sit with it. Embrace it. You got to suffer. It's part of the journey. Reward favors the bold.

 

[SW15]

Another reason why you want to recharge after a workout and pickup is to recover the energy you output. I blasted 7 nights a week for ages. Lost count on late nights and the amount of crazy experiences. You see the worst behavior in women which is a great reason to meditate. I got into hiking as well the past few years. I love outdoorsand being in nature.

@SW15 has got it right with the sniper approach.

The sniper approach is what helps keep a man going in the lifestyle of being a never married, childless guy into his 30s, 40s, and beyond.

I've seen men in their 20s who were massive approachers in nightlife end up settling for one woman and turning into complete betas as married men. That's a bad outcome. That's a man who didn't pace himself. He burned out too much on the pickup lifestyle.

The lifestyle of being a seducer of women has a way of being draining.

 

[Suave1]

Day 29
3 approaches, weak energy
Approach 1: 7.5/10. Black hair, black eyes, very big boobs, looked to be aging slightly. She was sitting down and I was walking past(probably the easiest approach). My energy kind of sucked, I was low energy and I felt like I was just going through the motions to get my approaches in for the day. Got her number but she didn't text back. Areas for improvement: Didn’t have my sexy vibe. Didn’t hook enough with assumptions.

Approach 2: 8.5/10. Dirty blonde/brown hair, big lips, on the tall side. I stopped her as we were walking in opposite directions. She gave me her number but I'm pretty sure it was fake because it was an Android and she was holding an iPhone. Areas for improvement: Didn't have great energy, was a bit awkward with my word pacing, and didn't go into rapport enough.

Approach 3: 7/10. Black hair, very thic, on the short side. This one was literally 30 seconds after approach 2. This was my best approach of the day, and she hooked pretty fast. Good approach here. Got her number and I'm texting now.

Areas for improvement for day: More sexy vibe, more energy, more thinking about ****ing girls which leads into your vibe, more upbeat
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@SW15 @DEEZEDBRAH I love what both of you are saying. Hear me out - if you accept that game is a tiring endeavor at times, you can also accept that pacing yourself is a good idea. Therefore, to integrate game into your life successfully, you 1. Surround yourself with approachable girls and 2. Approach every hot girl you want to. The environment is a matter of going to grocery stores, colleges, gyms consistently. We know that 2 simply depends on dealing with your approach anxiety to go approach. So essentially, the constraint to having good sniper game(where you go about your day and only go after very attractive girls) is dealing with approach anxiety.

Right now, I would not classify myself as a sniper approacher, because I approach the girls I deal with my approach anxiety to approach. I don't approach ALL the girls I consider attractive because a lot of times I have approach anxiety that I can't deal with fast enough until she is gone(usually walking past me - I have 2-3 seconds to react). Work to be done for sure.

 

[Suave1]

Day 30
2 approaches
Approach 1: 6/10. Indian, dark skin with black hair. Big boobs. Only thing that made me approach was that last item lol. Also I haven’t banged an Indian. I’m really happy about this one not because of the outcome, but because of how fast I initiated the approach. This was within 10 mins of getting to campus and walking around! My opener was good, I was just a little nervous. I can improve my rate of speech for sure, slowing it down. She said she had a boyfriend but was smiling and sticked around after she told me to talk to me more, didn’t show any signs of leaving. Good one! I made her day for sure!!

Approach 2: 7/10. Brown curly hair, freckles, thic. This was fun! She was sitting down, it was an easy approach for sure. I was feeling good, which came across in my energy, because I did everything good. After opening, my questions were as followed - what are you working on?(laptop), What is your major? Why did you pick that major?. I found out she had a couple hours to spare(so did I), so I asked her out on an instadate. We got coffee and started talking about what we want for our careers, why we picked it(more important than what), and our favorite shows. I started doing 2 second body touches on her arm within 5 minutes of starting the idate. We got the coffees and sat outside in a secluded spot... I was determined to push this one and see what I could do! My signature move is asking her to show me it on her phone, then go for the kiss. However, I couldn’t do the signature move because she said she was super busy with work and doesn’t watch Netflix. So, I showed her my favorite song(via airpod) and told her to pinky promise not to make fun of me(kino). Then, I held her hand while she listened to it. I could tell she was doing heavy IOI’s but I couldn’t go for the kiss because she was sitting across from me, so I faked the end of the date and told her I’d walk her to her study spot. I found a spot for her to study then went for the kiss. She said no but then gave me a cheek kiss! I played it off by saying "Oh, I risked embarrassment there", which basically calls out the situation so it's not awkward. After the cheek kiss, she stuck around giving me heavy IOIs. We hugged for like 5 seconds and then she initiated another cheek kiss. We parted our ways and I texted her 30 minutes later. See the text below - does anyone have input on this? She seemed kind of cold. She said she just broke up with her boyfriend a week ago(lol), so that may still be fresh on her mind, which is unfortunate for her.
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[DEEZEDBRAH]

Day 29
3 approaches, weak energy
Approach 1: 7.5/10. Black hair, black eyes, very big boobs, looked to be aging slightly. She was sitting down and I was walking past(probably the easiest approach). My energy kind of sucked, I was low energy and I felt like I was just going through the motions to get my approaches in for the day. Got her number but she didn't text back. Areas for improvement: Didn’t have my sexy vibe. Didn’t hook enough with assumptions.

Approach 2: 8.5/10. Dirty blonde/brown hair, big lips, on the tall side. I stopped her as we were walking in opposite directions. She gave me her number but I'm pretty sure it was fake because it was an Android and she was holding an iPhone. Areas for improvement: Didn't have great energy, was a bit awkward with my word pacing, and didn't go into rapport enough.

Approach 3: 7/10. Black hair, very thic, on the short side. This one was literally 30 seconds after approach 2. This was my best approach of the day, and she hooked pretty fast. Good approach here. Got her number and I'm texting now.

Areas for improvement for day: More sexy vibe, more energy, more thinking about ****ing girls which leads into your vibe, more upbeat
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@SW15 @DEEZEDBRAH I love what both of you are saying. Hear me out - if you accept that game is a tiring endeavor at times, you can also accept that pacing yourself is a good idea. Therefore, to integrate game into your life successfully, you 1. Surround yourself with approachable girls and 2. Approach every hot girl you want to. The environment is a matter of going to grocery stores, colleges, gyms consistently. We know that 2 simply depends on dealing with your approach anxiety to go approach. So essentially, the constraint to having good sniper game(where you go about your day and only go after very attractive girls) is dealing with approach anxiety.

Right now, I would not classify myself as a sniper approacher, because I approach the girls I deal with my approach anxiety to approach. I don't approach ALL the girls I consider attractive because a lot of times I have approach anxiety that I can't deal with fast enough until she is gone(usually walking past me - I have 2-3 seconds to react). Work to be done for sure.

Integrated into a way of being. Sniper approach. Have a ability to run sets but know energy is finite and women are rarely a asset. Modern women are a liability. **** ROI. You want to utilize staying power. Most guys bail the sec a semi decent looking girl comes. It doesn't end well. Staying power is king.

 

[Suave1]

Day 31
0 approaches
Not a good day today. I got caught up with work in the morning and early afternoon, which set me behind for the day. Also, I was extremely tired, and decided to take a nap in the late afternoon because I couldn't stay awake. I'm not happy with the result, but it hammered home the point that I need to go to bed on time everyday, so I don't need a nap in the day.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

The sniper approach is what helps keep a man going in the lifestyle of being a never married, childless guy into his 30s, 40s, and beyond.

I've seen men in their 20s who were massive approachers in nightlife end up settling for one woman and turning into complete betas as married men. That's a bad outcome. That's a man who didn't pace himself. He burned out too much on the pickup lifestyle.

The lifestyle of being a seducer of women has a way of being draining.

I recognize your genius once again.

I see what you are saying. In my early days on my come up, I pursued meeting the absolute best be nattys or pickup. Majority checkout by mid to late 20s. Bare in mind, most banged more than 100x your average chump. Some of the playboy's I knew on the come up are playing house. Several are slinging D despite kids. Others are beta as f. Few are still going. A miniscule amount are doing it right be it bachelor mode or family life. Acquired top form peak smv 18-23. No ****ery or cuckoldry. No weird ****.

I'm wishing I came across you ages ago. Sniper approach especially as a mature man on the grind and making moves. It's a must. Fellas need to go through the fire. Acquire skill. Get past AA. Cultivate being. Sniper approach. Get the lifestyle.

The draining in pursuing women is in the sunk cost fallacy. Culture championships women post wall and bastard children from different men &&& why we should marry that. The ROI is rubbish. Women by and far are typically a liability. Especially modern women.

The pursuit has to be beyond getting girls. Even fellas wanting to play house it's less than 1% worthy. Fellas need to be sourcing. Cultivate skills and sniper after. Hire slow fire fast. #next

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Day 31
0 approaches
Not a good day today. I got caught up with work in the morning and early afternoon, which set me behind for the day. Also, I was extremely tired, and decided to take a nap in the late afternoon because I couldn't stay awake. I'm not happy with the result, but it hammered home the point that I need to go to bed on time everyday, so I don't need a nap in the day.

On your walk into the office or on break at lunch. Exercise common sense. Benchmark minimum 3x a day. Less burn out. As for getting tired, bump this in a decade or two. It's not getting easier. Time and energy is finite.

 

[Suave1]

Day 32
2 approaches.
Approach 1: 8/10. Tan-ish skin, dirty blonde hair, big eyes. Inside student union. This was an easy approach because she was sitting down. I got her number, but when she texted, she said she was talking to someone seriously. Not a big deal - next! Things I did well: Faked walking past her then turning around(1 step past her) to make it seem more natural, went into rapport quickly, stacked a little. Things I could improve: I could have definitely stacked more. That is something I'm not great at.
Approach 2: 7/10. Black hair, botox face. Outside library. She had a banging body and good face from afar, but she was older closeup. She was married, lol. Things I did well: Did the walk past, was very comfortable in the approach. Things I could improve: She was sitting down on a very low bench and I was really standing over her a lot. I'm a pretty tall guy, so from her perspective, that was a pretty bad look.

One observation learned today: When walking and approaching a girl, it is best to walk past them first then do a quick turn around before introducing. Don't start the conversation with them from 5 feet away like street vendors in the rougher parts of NYC do. You could do this as a spur of the moment "wow you're beautiful", but this is for advanced game.

 

[SW15]

One observation learned today: When walking and approaching a girl, it is best to walk past them first then do a quick turn around before introducing.

This is seen all the time in the infield YouTube videos.

 

[Suave1]

Note to reader: I will be taking off this week for Thanksgiving.

I am very thankful for everyone who's given me advice on my log! Also that I live in the US, where I don't have to worry about food and shelter. I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving and comes back from the holiday feeling recharged!

 

[Suave1]

End of semester update
I'm going to be taking time rest of the month(December) off from approaches for the most part. I have a little fwb rotation now and I'm just going to lay low and focus on my school and work until next semester starts up. Finals is this week/next week and I've been pretty busy preparing for that. I'm going to write a post titled something along the lines of "What I learned from this semester of approaches" in the next couple of weeks. My goal for next semester is most likely going to be 2 approaches a day, so I'm looking forward to continuing this and getting better.

 

[nicksaiz65]

End of semester update
I'm going to be taking time rest of the month(December) off from approaches for the most part. I have a little fwb rotation now and I'm just going to lay low and focus on my school and work until next semester starts up. Finals is this week/next week and I've been pretty busy preparing for that. I'm going to write a post titled something along the lines of "What I learned from this semester of approaches" in the next couple of weeks. My goal for next semester is most likely going to be 2 approaches a day, so I'm looking forward to continuing this and getting better.

Congratulations. This is incredibly inspiring.

 

[Çharismo]

@Suave1

YOU ARE THE CHAMPION OF ALL CHAMPIONS!!!!!!

 

[Zimbabwe]

End of semester update
I'm going to be taking time rest of the month(December) off from approaches for the most part. I have a little fwb rotation now and I'm just going to lay low and focus on my school and work until next semester starts up. Finals is this week/next week and I've been pretty busy preparing for that. I'm going to write a post titled something along the lines of "What I learned from this semester of approaches" in the next couple of weeks. My goal for next semester is most likely going to be 2 approaches a day, so I'm looking forward to continuing this and getting better.

Been reading the whole thread, love the progress your making

 

[SW15]

End of semester update
I'm going to be taking time rest of the month(December) off from approaches for the most part. I have a little fwb rotation now and I'm just going to lay low and focus on my school and work until next semester starts up. Finals is this week/next week and I've been pretty busy preparing for that. I'm going to write a post titled something along the lines of "What I learned from this semester of approaches" in the next couple of weeks. My goal for next semester is most likely going to be 2 approaches a day, so I'm looking forward to continuing this and getting better.

December is a tough month for starting new things in general. Taking December off from approaches isn't a bad idea.

It looks like your sex frequency is ok with a small rotation (maybe 2 women).

 

[Suave1]

As promised, I posted "What I learned from my approach log in 2021", able to see here:

What I learned from my approach log in 2021

For those who are curious, this post is inspired by my daily cold approach log available here. https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/suave1s-approach-dating-journal.270897/ As I write to you, it is currently a few days before Christmas. Reflecting back on the past couple months of me...

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A special thanks to @DEEZEDBRAH @SW15 @Çharismo @Don Dark Horse @Modern Man Advice for your great advice along the way. I'm really looking forward to starting this up again in a few weeks once the spring semester starts!!