steroids/DECA

[DavenJuan]

i have recieved a lot of positive advice from some folks in this forum so i come to some of you with a somewhat important question. has anyone you know or maybe yourself taken steroids or any body enhancement supplement? I am a pretty attractive guy, i weigh about175lbs, but i figure i can be "cutt" a lil bit and maybe would spice up my attitude, as well as my looks...ur thoughts on any side affects?

 

[Kodiac]

Don't steroids shrink ur balls ?

I know there's an Increased risk of prostate cancer and liver damage.

 

[Kodiac]

http://www.aap.org/family/steroids.htm

Reduced sperm count
Impotence
Increase in nipple and breast size (gynecomastia)
Enlarged prostate (gland that mixes fluid with sperm to form semen)

And they are just the specific side effects for MALES. Don't forget to read about the general side effects.

Doesn't sound like a win win situation to me.

Do it the natural way is my advice.
Eat healthy, eat lots, work out 2-3 times a week.
Ask for more advice re working out in the fitness forum.

 

[DavenJuan]

thanks

 

[squirrels]

Have you tried working out NORMALLY first?

Steroids aren't going to do crap for you if you're not already involved in a serious exercise regime. You can't expect to just shoot them and beef up while sitting on the couch.

I've heard too many stories about steroids. Some of them have less side-effects than others, but they all do SOMETHING ill. Genital shrinkage, liver damage, heart disease, cholesterol problems, attitude problems, you name it. You can f up the balance of your physical self in favor of one thing, but you're taking away from another. That's the way it works.

I'm a pretty big guy, so my doctor asked me about it. (I don't do 'roids). He told me that he has NEVER seen an emergency case of high cholesterol (it's usually just something you work on over time) EXCEPT with steroid users.

No thanks. Try diet and exercise first...if it works, you'll be glad you didn't start shooting garbage to get where you are.

 

[DJLiquid]

Most veterans will tell you that steroids should only be used after you have reached your full natural potential....after you know what exercise routines work best for your body...and after you have a good diet....if you have to ask our thoughts on side effects of AS....you are not ready to juice....in your case just get on a good diet (Keto diet)...do some cardio...and some weight training....and you will be surprised how well your body responds when you to all 3 - diet+cardio+weight training....

-DJLiquid

 

[John11276]

Deca isn't for cuts, it's for mass. It uses water and protein as it's base. If you don't eat tons of protein with the Deca then you are going to loose your money. Also if you stop working hard do you know where that water goes...yeah fat. If you are going to do something do Winstrol mixed with some Thermogenic supplament. At least that's what I'm on now.

 

[Da Greek]

Originally posted by DJLiquid
Most veterans will tell you that steroids should only be used after you have reached your full natural potential....after you know what exercise routines work best for your body...and after you have a good diet....if you have to ask our thoughts on side effects of AS....you are not ready to juice....in your case just get on a good diet (Keto diet)...do some cardio...and some weight training....and you will be surprised how well your body responds when you to all 3 - diet+cardio+weight training....

-DJLiquid

Well said.Been there done it.There are side effect I experienced.
I used some pretty harsh stuff.(Aandrol 50,Testosterone,Dianabol,
and Finaject)There are some real mild one's like Winstrol and Primobolon.Reach your full potential first.The Keto diet I'm not sure about.Ain't that the no carb diet?

 

[DJLiquid]

Originally posted by Da Greek
Keto diet I'm not sure about.Ain't that the no carb diet?

Yeap its a low carb diet (50grams/day)....alot of the brothers (myself included) from the bodybuilding.com forum have had good success with it in terms of losing fat....

-DJLiquid

 

[Player_Supreme]

I have been a personal trainer for over 16 years...I have trained bodybuilders on the juice. As a proffessiional I would recommend not doing it! You lose your nut size...become impotent...get bad achne...bit*ches tits...and piss blood from kidney damage...and a host of other problems.

You do get muscle size increases which shrink real fast after you quit....you get roid rage attitude that you don't even notice is there...that's why I won't train any more roider's...My opionion of them is that they are cheaters.

I have competed naturally and have successfully trained natural body builders. That is the way to go. Let your body become what it should be not some super enhanced juice machine.

If your looking at roids that means your having self-confidence issues and need to deal with that instead of cheating to make your muscle gains.

And big muscles do not get the chicks...it's the game you spit that wins them. I will go up against any roid head anyday of the week to compete for a woman...

plus why even have women when your dyck shrinks cause your body can't produce enough of it's own testotrone to get an erection... and what good to women are you except this tremendous bulk laying on top of them....

peace

 

[8ball]

I was arrested for posession of steroids in 1994.

My roomate was charged w/ posession w/ intent to distribute. Being caught w/ anabolics is the same as being caught w/ cocaine.

Unless being stronger or faster contributes to your income, ( i.e...being an NFL Linebacker, Olympic Sprinter, Boxer, professional bodybuilder, wrestler ) and feeds your family, I can see NO good reason to actually pay money for them, get temporary muscles, and risk being caught and having a criminal record.

Besides, chicks don't dig huge muscles..get lean, ripped abs, a narrow waist and nice shoulders i.e. a nice 'beach body' and women will go nuts. You can achieve this result through hard work, diet, and proper supplementation.

Forget about the steroids. It will save you many a headache.

 

[DIESEL]

Originally posted by Player_Supreme


If your looking at roids that means your having self-confidence issues and need to deal with that instead of cheating to make your muscle gains.

Not to mention that most dudes who jump on the juice do so because they don't know how to train/eat properly... so the juice makes up for their deficiencies.

 

[Legend]

Roids is'nt the answer.....sure one cycle wont hurt you but why even bother?

Just keep lifting and training right if you are even lifting. A lot of the other posts have good information and are very true so i'm not going to repeat anything from the above.

If you think you need something take something like whey protein and i recommand taking Zmass from GNC. I have never seen as much gains from any supplements as i did when taking Zmass. I was really surprised...keep in mind i worked my ass off, but i do think it helped heal my muscles faster so i could get a great workout in everytime i lifted.

Good luck man...

 

[DIESEL]

Originally posted by Legend
Roids is'nt the answer.....sure one cycle wont hurt you but why even bother?

Just keep lifting and training right if you are even lifting. A lot of the other posts have good information and are very true so i'm not going to repeat anything from the above.

If you think you need something take something like whey protein and i recommand taking Zmass from GNC. I have never seen as much gains from any supplements as i did when taking Zmass. I was really surprised...keep in mind i worked my ass off, but i do think it helped heal my muscles faster so i could get a great workout in everytime i lifted.

Good luck man...

Zmass is crap. The gains you got was from the effort you put in...NOT the Zmass.

 

[vectorz]

Don't listen to what these preachers in here are saying, especially considering that most if not all of these dorks have never picked up a dumbbell in their entire lives. I'm not saying you SHOULD or SHOULD NOT do roids, but keep this in mind -- More than 1/3 of all guys that I know at my gym that are under 30, are using roids. Today's competitive society seems to push people to their limits to look their best and A LOT of people are taking the short cuts. If you're not taking roids, you're sure as hell not going to look as good as these guys in the short period that you're working out. I personally am not taking roids either, but looking at it objectively even Arnold himself has recommended them. Only difference is Arnold recommends them AFTER you've already gained the muscle. I have a lot of friends that have taken them for a few cycles and quit but have a helluva great results from it, without any of the apparent side affects. Again, I personally have not taken them, but I'm saying you might have to be a bit objective about this and look to people OUTSIDE of the DORK COMMUNITY (this forum) for advice on it.

 

[Don Corleon]

vector is right, if you are seriously considering taking steriods do maybe 2 or 3 short cycles. side effects should be little or close to none at all. if you are looking to get cuts, like somebody mentioned earlier, deca is not the answer. You might want to try something a little less anabolic like primo or even clen. Then again the simple answer to your fittness goals could be just a well planned diet with proper training.

 

[Kodiac]

Go to google, type in "should i take steroid's" and see what comes up. Or maybe "side effects of taking steroid's".

It's you body, you want to fuk it up, its your choice.
I prefer putting the extra effort in and knowing i go there without taking ILLEGAL short cuts that's probably doing more harm than good.

Arnold ? I don't recall him ever RECOMMENDING them, in fact, i remember him saying he REGRETTED taking them. Thus, that's why he only took them for a short time and before his career took off.

And yeah, im just a DORK who's being working out naturally for 4 years. But what would i know, im just on a forum trying to better myself in yet another area.

"The health problems caused by steroids may not appear for years after the steroids are taken. A testosterone measurement of more than 200 nanograms per milliliter would signal steroid abuse, and I have seen athletes with levels in the thousands," says Larry Bowers, MD, a steroid expert. "Although it may take 20 years, case studies of long-term steroid use indicate negative effects on almost every system of the body."

http://kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/behavior/steroids.html

 

[MetalFortress]

Forget roids... focusing on supplements instead of how you train and what you eat is STUPID. Focusing on supplements is like basing an entire routine around isolation lifts: salt and pepper make good spices for a full meal, but will NEVER replace a full meal. Until you have your training and diet established, don't start looking at supps.

 

[Covey21]

Hey bro as you know with a question like this you are going to get people going both ways! I have done deca! Yes it can be used to cut but you normally dont just take deca. You stack it with something! I used it felt like it gave me great results! Thats just me though, your body could react completely diffrent then mine! Also side with deca that even though deca is one of the more safer roids you will loose your **** while on it! Its called deca **** and for maybe 3-4 weeks after you wont be able to pop wood. It also can show up in test for 9 months after your final injection! But your choice on what you want to do! Good luck either way!

 

[stuartSan]

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