pr0teus
Don Juan
Go for it, but there is no reason to adopt the pothead mannerisms, most women I've been with would find that off-putting.
Stay away from cannabis, or no?
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I say stay away from it. Darth made an excellent post. It's benefits are what? It makes you relax. It can make you feel happier. But there are better methods to do that, that don't cause negative effects. For example, your heart rate will go up for hours. Some people get real nervous\weird when they do it! For others, it seems to be fine. But then again, they may be affected, little by little, on the long term... And not even realize it! I think it messes up your chemistry. You're going to have a harder time to feel happy without it, afterward!! With many people I think that's true, I don't know for all...
There can be some positive effects of marijuana, but I think it's definitely not worth it. Will wait for more scientific studies, tho.
But I feel weird for DAYS sometimes! I get numb and all! For me it's not worth it by a long shot... At least not now.
Let's think about the REASONS we smoke pot!
WHY?? Are there even good reasons? I am having a hard time seeing them! You can relax on your own. Feel good and happy, without it. You're risking a lot, even your sexuality may be affected. How hard will your erections be? Will you ejaculate more prematurely? There are some articles on herballove about it, will browse them later...
Let's see some excuses to smoke pot:
"All my friends are doing it!" I've been with my friends hundreds of times, they were all smoking and I wasn't, and we were all laughing and interacting the same! The key is your personality!
"It may be good for me" If you aren't sure, maybe you shouldn't do it! Listen to your gut. Smoking may or may not be good, but not smoking can't be bad. If you have an nervous personality or anxiety disorders, I would get my ass in order first and only then try and smoke.
"It can't harm me THAT much. It's all psychological!" Sometimes, it may depend on your attitude, but not always.
Some people smoke to get away form their problems... Get real! Many, many more people are smoking today because they don't feel good about their life, they lost their passion. They don't have self esteem! Then GET IT. What happened to that? That's where it's at! Screw marijuana, if that is your case. Overcome your problems on your own! It's a disgrace that people are thinking like that. I think it's what is happening in this society, to many people, at least. Fewer people are working in improving themselves to enjoy everything, and more and more are finding quick fixes. Anyone with me on this one?
I think it messes up my nervous system in the long run... I kinda loose the ability to feel... It's strange! I am more lucid and relaxed, more outgoing when I DON'T smoke! Smoking, for me, may be cool only where you are in a house watching a movie and all of my friends are doing it. If I were to go to a club, it just wouldn't work, I'm afraid.
I just wanted to advise all people... Be careful!! Please! You're risking to ruin yourself. If you are unsure, think about the last time you smoked. Was it a good experience, or no? Think about the risks! Your personality may change. You may feel really weird. If you are yourself, unchanged by these drugs, then what do you have to fear? You're in the top of the world, in control of yourself! Anything is at your reach. For some people it may work... For me, right now, it doesn't. I don't know why. I'll have to try it out in the future when I am 100% solid. Some times ppl get insecure! Then they try real hard and get over it. By themselves! If you are smoking, it can make that much harder or even make it impossible, at least for a while. And preferably when it is a day I have nothing to loose, like for example I won't go out in the next day or don't have school for a couple of days. Ty for reading and BTW, great thread, some really nice posts in here.
There can be some positive effects of marijuana, but I think it's definitely not worth it. Will wait for more scientific studies, tho.
But I feel weird for DAYS sometimes! I get numb and all! For me it's not worth it by a long shot... At least not now.
Let's think about the REASONS we smoke pot!
WHY?? Are there even good reasons? I am having a hard time seeing them! You can relax on your own. Feel good and happy, without it. You're risking a lot, even your sexuality may be affected. How hard will your erections be? Will you ejaculate more prematurely? There are some articles on herballove about it, will browse them later...
Let's see some excuses to smoke pot:
"All my friends are doing it!" I've been with my friends hundreds of times, they were all smoking and I wasn't, and we were all laughing and interacting the same! The key is your personality!
"It may be good for me" If you aren't sure, maybe you shouldn't do it! Listen to your gut. Smoking may or may not be good, but not smoking can't be bad. If you have an nervous personality or anxiety disorders, I would get my ass in order first and only then try and smoke.
"It can't harm me THAT much. It's all psychological!" Sometimes, it may depend on your attitude, but not always.
Some people smoke to get away form their problems... Get real! Many, many more people are smoking today because they don't feel good about their life, they lost their passion. They don't have self esteem! Then GET IT. What happened to that? That's where it's at! Screw marijuana, if that is your case. Overcome your problems on your own! It's a disgrace that people are thinking like that. I think it's what is happening in this society, to many people, at least. Fewer people are working in improving themselves to enjoy everything, and more and more are finding quick fixes. Anyone with me on this one?
I think it messes up my nervous system in the long run... I kinda loose the ability to feel... It's strange! I am more lucid and relaxed, more outgoing when I DON'T smoke! Smoking, for me, may be cool only where you are in a house watching a movie and all of my friends are doing it. If I were to go to a club, it just wouldn't work, I'm afraid.
I just wanted to advise all people... Be careful!! Please! You're risking to ruin yourself. If you are unsure, think about the last time you smoked. Was it a good experience, or no? Think about the risks! Your personality may change. You may feel really weird. If you are yourself, unchanged by these drugs, then what do you have to fear? You're in the top of the world, in control of yourself! Anything is at your reach. For some people it may work... For me, right now, it doesn't. I don't know why. I'll have to try it out in the future when I am 100% solid. Some times ppl get insecure! Then they try real hard and get over it. By themselves! If you are smoking, it can make that much harder or even make it impossible, at least for a while. And preferably when it is a day I have nothing to loose, like for example I won't go out in the next day or don't have school for a couple of days. Ty for reading and BTW, great thread, some really nice posts in here.
SandHawk
Master Don Juan
Groovy, cute post, but I think you're totally missing the point in your posts. This is meant as no way as condescending, but please check your facts before you make statements. There has been done a lot of research on the effects of marijuana and there are still tons of research projects going on.
The reason behind the use of recreational drugs is that people like the mind altered state that the drug brings, just like people enjoy being tipsy.
Your use of the sentence "I think it messes up your chemistry" is missing argumentation. While there is evidence that there are neurological changes in long-term users, this doesn't affect behavior. It's unknown what causes these changes. On a totally unrelated note: Long term meditation and early exposure to playing musical instruments have neurological changes as a result as well. Therefor, stating that these changes are bad or harmful would be jumping to conclusions.
There are plenty of positive effects. Medical use alone justifies legalizing it. But with anything in life, too much can be harmful. Just as you shouldn't be drinking a sixpack of beer each day, you shouldn't get stoned each day.
You need at least 10mg of THC to feel any of it's effects. Weed contains between 3% and 22% of THC, so assuming you smoke 100mg of weed, and it's good quality so contains about 15% THC, that's only 15mg. Most people don't smoke weed alone, and thus share a blunt. Most blunts are rolled with between 300mg and 500mg of weed, with most people preferring 300mg. I get a lot of weird faces when I roll half a gram into a joint. So if you're with 3 people, you get about 100mg, give or take.
I totally agree with you here. Using drugs, any kind of drugs to muffle away your problems is wrong. Any experienced psychonaut (I do not consider myself one) will tell you, NEVER do drugs if you feel unhappy or if using those drugs is what is needed to fix your mood. Only use drugs when you feel happy. Drugs are never a solution, only a blanket under which you can hide things, that will eventually become visible again.
Wrong mindset! The risks of dying from being run over by a car are bigger than being injured or getting brain damage from smoking pot. Even a glass of beer does more damage than a joint. Always thinking of the potential risks and dangers will make you anxious.
By that logic, why are we drinking alcohol? Because alcohol is a lot more destructive on your body than marijuana. Just look at the amount of people that die from overdosing on alcohol each year. And if you add the number of related deaths, such as liver damage, brain damage or drink drivers running over people, it's far worse than pot.Groovy said:It's benefits are what? It makes you relax. It can make you feel happier.
The reason behind the use of recreational drugs is that people like the mind altered state that the drug brings, just like people enjoy being tipsy.
That is not entirely true, because marijuana doesn't actively affect the reward pathways in your brain, like many other drugs do(such as cocaine). Marijuana doesn't form a physical dependency in it's user, only a psychological, which may even be harder to break than physical ones.Groovy said:I think it messes up your chemistry. You're going to have a harder time to feel happy without it, afterward!! With many people I think that's true, I don't know for all...
Your use of the sentence "I think it messes up your chemistry" is missing argumentation. While there is evidence that there are neurological changes in long-term users, this doesn't affect behavior. It's unknown what causes these changes. On a totally unrelated note: Long term meditation and early exposure to playing musical instruments have neurological changes as a result as well. Therefor, stating that these changes are bad or harmful would be jumping to conclusions.
Groovy said:There can be some positive effects of marijuana, but I think it's definitely not worth it. Will wait for more scientific studies, tho.
There are plenty of positive effects. Medical use alone justifies legalizing it. But with anything in life, too much can be harmful. Just as you shouldn't be drinking a sixpack of beer each day, you shouldn't get stoned each day.
For days? Are you sure that's not the placebo effect? While THC is known to settle in your body fats and is slow released over a very long period of time, I doubt your body is releasing such large quantities that you'll be stoned for days.Groovy said:But I feel weird for DAYS sometimes! I get numb and all! For me it's not worth it by a long shot... At least not now.
You need at least 10mg of THC to feel any of it's effects. Weed contains between 3% and 22% of THC, so assuming you smoke 100mg of weed, and it's good quality so contains about 15% THC, that's only 15mg. Most people don't smoke weed alone, and thus share a blunt. Most blunts are rolled with between 300mg and 500mg of weed, with most people preferring 300mg. I get a lot of weird faces when I roll half a gram into a joint. So if you're with 3 people, you get about 100mg, give or take.
Again, we do a lot of things in life with or without good reasons. Alcohol is one of them. Where do you base your findings on sexuality on? Because in my experience, getting stoned as f*ck before banging a broad will only intensify the sex. You're not going to have rough wild sex, but it will be slow, mellow sex. Personal experience doesn't weigh up versus scientifical data, but neither do assumptions.Groovy said:Let's think about the REASONS we smoke pot!
WHY?? Are there even good reasons? I am having a hard time seeing them! You can relax on your own. Feel good and happy, without it. You're risking a lot, even your sexuality may be affected. How hard will your erections be? Will you ejaculate more prematurely? There are some articles on herballove about it, will browse them later...
Groovy said:Some people smoke to get away form their problems... Get real! Many, many more people are smoking today because they don't feel good about their life, they lost their passion. They don't have self esteem! Then GET IT. What happened to that? That's where it's at! Screw marijuana, if that is your case. Overcome your problems on your own! It's a disgrace that people are thinking like that. I think it's what is happening in this society, to many people, at least. Fewer people are working in improving themselves to enjoy everything, and more and more are finding quick fixes. Anyone with me on this one?
I totally agree with you here. Using drugs, any kind of drugs to muffle away your problems is wrong. Any experienced psychonaut (I do not consider myself one) will tell you, NEVER do drugs if you feel unhappy or if using those drugs is what is needed to fix your mood. Only use drugs when you feel happy. Drugs are never a solution, only a blanket under which you can hide things, that will eventually become visible again.
We all go through life avoiding risks, to arrive safely at deathGroovy said:Think about the risks!
Wrong mindset! The risks of dying from being run over by a car are bigger than being injured or getting brain damage from smoking pot. Even a glass of beer does more damage than a joint. Always thinking of the potential risks and dangers will make you anxious.
Those sterile laboratory results are the reason we know so much about Marijuanna in the first place. We know the active ingredient, we know what the active ingredient interacts with, we know the processes involved that give the effects, we know the residual effects, we know that it's not physically addictive and doesn't change brain chemistry... etc.d!ckmojo said:And then again, which type of knowledge is more valuable? Sterile laborotory results stripped of all context and meaning in the futile and pointless pursuit of isolating out the "placebo" effect, or real-world first-hand empirical experience?
Anyone with a shred of sense and knowledge wouldn't be knocking solid laboratory results. They are necessary in order to understand how things work and interact. The easiest way to do that is to isolate each variable and see what each does. It's called science.
Your "first hand empirical knowledge" consists of guess work and bull****. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong and you have no idea which because your "evidence" is guesswork at best.