Starring at girls or just people when walking???

[Reyaj]

DarkLight

Great Response! I'm going to study that one.

How long did it take you to get the stare of your value being higher down?

A lot of practice I bet.

Also anything you can recommend me reading without over analyzing I'd appreciate as I want to get to your level.

 

[cefiro]

I always check out girls when im walking around, and I make eye contact with them if they look at me. I dont think they should be insulted when I check them out, it should be looked at as a compliment. Plus, the eye contact lets her know that you have some confidence.

 

[DarkLight]

DarkLight

Great Response! I'm going to study that one.

How long did it take you to get the stare of your value being higher down?

A lot of practice I bet.

Also anything you can recommend me reading without over analyzing I'd appreciate as I want to get to your level.

Thx Man! Its appreciated.

Hmm?! Reading material?
Maybe some studies into the nature of "frames." Its good to understand them, and how the structure of our minds is built (as well as every1 else's). So some NLP books for sure. I haven't read this book... but "Frame Games" might be of value. The author Michael Hall, has writting quite a few great books into the meta-states of mind, etc. Might want to check a few of those out, and/or any other NLP books that catch you. All of Bandler's sh!t is pretty supreme as well. Besides that... I'd have to reccomened meditation books. An enlightened man named OSHO (Baghwan Shree Rajneesh). Seriously badass! Outlawed in 22 countries, dead now, but straight up... lightning TRUTH!

Practicing meditation would be the most vital excercise in this. Literally your melting your sh!tty Frames, through conciously exploring them. Not only that... but your command of mind will be greater. This is key, cause your going to want to intend certain DJ frames into your being. And then stabalize them. Become them, in other words. Which leads me to another more practical daily excercise.

I was just doing this earlier at Starbucks, while in line. Whenever your in public places, a lot of people, etc., and there is a lot of social energy/interaction. Try commanding your being into a DJ frame. Literally exude the energy and feelings of a DJ mindset your intending. Its a challenge. It brings up any issues you have that are objections to such a frame, first of all. Then you have to have the courage, will, concious intent to hold the state.

I wrote an article sort of on this, Called: The Sorcery of Becoming.
Do a search for it.
Its sort of nutty... but its about commanding new frames into your mind, and integrating such frames, until those frames are YOU. You now would exude the chosen frames of mind, you conciously intended.

The great thing about practicing such frames of mind in public places... is its hard. Its a challenge to the AFC within... to command the frame of a DJ in front of "other" people. That self isn't comftorable being a sexual pimp alpha... else it would be. Thus the value in commanding that frame in such moments. Plenty of integration going on... PLENTY!

And thats the most valuable way you can achieve such levels of suave sexy value in yourself, to the point of commanding it, and holding it... while eyeing some hot babydoll.

You could equate it with lifting weights. You just have to work the muscles of your pysche (and being) into holding such Pimp Frames of Self. Then as you become stronger (more integrated in those directions) such frames will then become you... and will work on auto-pilot, exuding the DJ vibes we're all working towards. Essentially its about processing repressed sexuality... back into its natural masculine power and glory. This is the path of becoming our potential. A greater being!

Anyways... Cheers man'
SuaveOn'

 

[Reyaj]

Thanks DL!


My question now is... when you say to hold the frames of a DJ when in public places or looking at girls in general... does this basically mean just feel confident, and self talk to yourself that you are the man?

What do you recommend I think specifically or even broadly in order to practice and turn into this permanant frame of a DJ?

How long did it take you? Also any experience you can share of yourself with this would be appreciated!

Thanks man!

 

[sheep-man]

hrmm sorta thing happened to me i was walking down the street and saw this hot chik walken with her fat friend and so i was lookin rite into her eyes and she was lookin at mine and then i checked her out while she was lookin rite at me and then as we past her fat friend pushed her into me but i dodged and she laffed it seemed positive i dont think she was freaked out, and i didnt smile i had sorta like a slight smirk

 

[Zero Hero]

I have never seen so much mental masturbation in my life. This thread is absolutely pathetic. It ain't a science...just talk to girl, that is it. Why make things so complicated?

 

[Reyaj]

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[danielzxc]

I agree. But it seems if you stare too hard girls get freaked out.

What do you mean by "freak out"? How do they freak out? I mean, what do they DO when they "freak out"? (Just wondering if I've ever seen a "freak out" myself, but not been aware of it.)

What's the key to doing it just right?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the key is... PRACTISE!

 

[DarkLight]

Thanks DL!


My question now is... when you say to hold the frames of a DJ when in public places or looking at girls in general... does this basically mean just feel confident, and self talk to yourself that you are the man?

What do you recommend I think specifically or even broadly in order to practice and turn into this permanant frame of a DJ?

How long did it take you? Also any experience you can share of yourself with this would be appreciated!

Thanks man!

It basically means, your energetically now being a DJ. Your holding the DJ frame, makes you exactly that. Its just a matter of degree to which you've integrated your other issues, so this frame can be the most powerfully broadcast.

For example - If you hold a frame (mindset) of terror... your going to be shivering in fear, while just standing in line for the ATM. Your frame of perception makes you, who you are. In other worlds... however you see the world (yourself), the world should for the most part, see you.

Yes it means being confident. It means being attractive, mysterious, powerful, charming. The frame of a DJ encompasses all these qualities and more. See it like the apeture of a camera... that yields the image of a DJ. So holding this frame, will yield the many aspects of a DJ image.

Its beyond "self-talk" also. We're talking the level of BEING. Your mind, your manner, your being... are exuding the totality of your conciousness moment to moment. So its a matter of becoming this frame. Thus my stressing the importance of holding this DJ frame, until you emotionally, energetically, and unconciously integrate it. Then you will be it.

But, as your curiosity reveals... its not so easy. We have a thousand and one little complexes, that prohibit many facets of such a frame. This is why I reccomend, continuously holding it... so such elements can be conciously digested. I specifically would advise you to hold such a frame... in (lets call them) "High Pressure" scenarios. Like public places, malls, bars, clubs, anywhere where there are people and specifically HB's, that will spark the insecurities in you, that prohibit the ease of holding such a frame. Even amongst family... as we have a lot of our identity anchored to them. So to bring in a new frame/way of being... is going to ignite our inner issues we have to work out, in order to channel the energy of that frame with ease, and solid continuity.

You with me!?

So like I said... I would reccomend holding a DJ frame in situations that would be considered most difficult. Process the resistances, boldly. You'll go deeper, and integrate more... with such a courageous approach.

Other than that... meditation. I've said it a thousand and 1 times on this forum. Its literally............. the vehicle of Inner Game.

Read my article "the Sorcery of Becoming" also. Its talks specifically, about this energetic re-conditioning process.

The next level of solidifying this frame of being, would naturally be to start relating through it. That will be even more face-to-face challenging. Thus yield opportunities of serious integration. EXACTLY what we're looking to achieve here.

Not only that, you will start channeling the DJ energy through such relations, that will yield results closer to our goal here. The more and more you do this... such results will perpetuate your desire to go further, stronger. Allowing you to seriously start to integrate, and become a DonJuan. Interactions are where its at, and the results of your balls from engaging w. such a frame are going to be your fuel. So feed the fire, pimp!

You'll start to find yourself being more comftorable, charming women with confidence. Relating to them sexually, etc. This is the path.

Personally, I can't say "how long" it took me... cause its still in process. We're always unfolding into greater greatness, if thats our intended direction. So to benchmark a spot on the constant motion of time... impossible. Its also how hard you go into this. How strongly you hold your frame. How bold you interact through it. How fearless you are going into yourself, and processing the many layers of BS.

I suggest you simply just carry on, as you are... with whatever added value you gleam from this knowledge. Apply it to where your at... and go as hard as you can with it. Then a step further.

A simple excercise would be this...
How powerfully do you hold yourself, when you walk?
How erect is your back?
How open is your being?

Try to take concious notice of this, and you'll learn a lot about yourself. Its a challenge to walk in massive power, and glory. Thats the challenge we've all chosen to take on here, in order to become the person we want to be... a DonJuan.

With that said...
SuaveOn' my Bruthaz.

 

[Reyaj]

Great stuff DarkLight!

Let me try to summarize what you said that I can apply. Correct me if/where I'm wrong.


I need to hold a DJ frame that is attractive, mysterious, powerful, charming. and confident. (sorry for being ignorant but what is the apeture of the camera? the lens?)


I see what you mean about holding the frame until it becomes me. And I think thats right on the money with my problems thus far.

My complexes always come into my head and I think are what stop me from being all I can be.

I guess I should force myself into public spaces and try to hold the frame as best I can... and eventually it will become me?

Are complexes good in anyway though? I mean I don't want to be uncoscience to offending others with my new DJ frame.

I don't want to appear too ****y either cause people hate ****y people.

I think I will need to meditate..... any suggestions or books for that?

I am going to pick up a copy of frame games like you recommended!

 

[Zero Hero]

Jayer, JUST GO OUT AND APPROACH! Nobody is going to give you some secret....you don't need to meditate or read books about meditating to approach some chicks! You made an approach journal and I think you approached like 2 girls while you were drunk at a bar in a year and a half!! That is ridiculous....I'm not hating on you, but please find a wing and just go out and don't eat or sleep until you approach at least 10 women. That will solve all your problems.

 

[DarkLight]

Jayer.

Zero has a point.
You'll gain the qualities your looking for through courageous action as well.
Confidence will come through trusting in yourself. When choosing to actually engage people. You'll find that you have amazing qualities to share, once the situation is created to where you need to share them.

I'm not discounting anything I've advised thus far, as its fvckin gold, for inner game work. But it seems your looking for all the answers, beforehand... so when you get in-field, you'll already be a master. It doesn't work that way. You have to apply the knowledge through experience, to see whats up. You have to feel the information played out... for it to be actualized into true value/power that you command.

I can see in you, that you have some seriously debilitating frames.
You write...

Are complexes good in anyway though? I mean I don't want to be uncoscience to offending others with my new DJ frame.

I don't want to appear too ****y either cause people hate ****y people.

Your over-sensitivity towards others cares, over living the life you want, is crippling just that. Trust me... I speak from experience. I know. What you need to realize is... being true to self, will make you comftorable, thus make the others comftorable. The greatest falsity is the nice-guys perspective. He thinks... if I'm always so sensitive, and concerned with others feelings, etc... they will then be comftorable. But this isn't so. Why!? Cause the nice-guy himself is living in a tense situation of always having to guess, and twist himself to the ideas of what he thinks others deem, comftorable. All the while sacrifycing his own sense of self, therefore comfort... which creates the exact opposite reaction, than his original noble intentions.

I would hands down... reccomend the book, "No More Mr. Nice Guy" to you.
Its fantastically written, and addresses many of the self-defeating frames this generation of men have unconciously working below the surface. I think a lot of cats on here, could learn a lot from this book.

Besides that... if you want to understand what I was suggesting w. Applying Frames... check out my thread in the tips section, named: [thread=113815]Comftorable Feeling Sexy!?[/thread]

Def. Meditate for all reasons though.
Its thee Inner Game Vehicle.

W. that said... Action is the way of MAN.
Remember that.

Peace'

 

[Reyaj]

thanx brother.

I am definitely going to keep this post handy and check out the other posts you wrote which you mention.

I actually got a girls number this weekend. Her IL didnt really seem that high but I confidentally asked her for her number and held out my cell phone. She gave it to me and I called it 2 days later at night and got her voice mail. I didnt leave a message but she never called back.

So the next day I texted messaged her saying "hey we met on new years. i called u yesterday. hope you remember me

Never got a response so I erased her number

NEXT!

 

[Reyaj]

bump

 

[Nighthawk]

Jayer, you've been here five years and still think 'Hope you remember me' is a good thing to text someone?

 

[Lust]

bump

I seriously don't think you need to bump this topic anymore.

After all these responses, i think you just need to figure it out on your own, in-field.

You can't expect someone to pop up with a magical reply that will solve all your problems.

Also, you are dwelling on this way too much.

You have attached excess meaning to something so small.

Go read the bible again. You sound seriously AFC. If i can spot your AFCness online, thousands of miles away through your text, you don't stand a chance with a hot babe walking towards you 10 feet away.

Go out, calibrate yourself, you learn better in-field.

 

[Reyaj]

I have a trouble starring at hot girls if they are approaching.

Do you all just stare at them the whole way through?