Reyaj
Master Don Juan
I agree with not making excuses for being a man. But havent you noticed that girls get a little freaked out if you stare at them too long or hard?
Starring at girls or just people when walking???
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Reyaj
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right or wrong?
Right. Generally speaking.Jayer said:
(I haven't read through the entire thread, so maybe I'm repeating what others have already said) :
You don't want to make them feel like prey. It shouldn't be an overly invasive stare. But girls still want to be looked at...and they want you to take notice.
As an example...if a girl is coming from your right, I think its best not to turn your head and stare at her directly....but rather move your head only slightly, and use your eyes.
If you stare too intensely, then she's like a deer in the headlights, and more likely to feel uncomfortable or intimidated. But if you glance at her 'modestly' and politely, she will understand that there is interest, as well as some neutrality....and then the ball is in her court to reciprocate.
On the other hand...some girls may want to be stared at. Especially if they're dressed for it. So I think you really have to read her body language - size her up in a split nanosecond...and take it from there.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Not only do I stare at everyone as s they pass by. I glare at people, sometimes with a menacing lok on my my face "The f*ck you starin at nukka!?"
I haven't read all the posts but:
From far away a girl will see that you saw her (isn't that weird how people always know when people are looking at them, must be a survival thing), if she is interested in you she will look away and fondle with her clothes. She won't look again until you are very close (she doesn't want to apear keen because she isn't YET - she needs to see you up close). Don't look at her. When up close she will look up and to you, look at her and smile. If she smiles back... take it from there. If she REALLY liked you after that she will look back after she walks past. That's a nice ego boost.
Don't stare at her at all - neither look should be more than a glance unless she smiles then hold eye contact.
Some girls are SOOOO stunning - I hate to say it but I love to have a GOOOD stare at them. It doesn't freak them out - they're used to it. There was this supermodel (she must have been) an easy proper London 10 walking through waterlow station and as she walked past I almost twisted my neck off staring at her, she smiled at that. Priceless.
From far away a girl will see that you saw her (isn't that weird how people always know when people are looking at them, must be a survival thing), if she is interested in you she will look away and fondle with her clothes. She won't look again until you are very close (she doesn't want to apear keen because she isn't YET - she needs to see you up close). Don't look at her. When up close she will look up and to you, look at her and smile. If she smiles back... take it from there. If she REALLY liked you after that she will look back after she walks past. That's a nice ego boost.
Don't stare at her at all - neither look should be more than a glance unless she smiles then hold eye contact.
Some girls are SOOOO stunning - I hate to say it but I love to have a GOOOD stare at them. It doesn't freak them out - they're used to it. There was this supermodel (she must have been) an easy proper London 10 walking through waterlow station and as she walked past I almost twisted my neck off staring at her, she smiled at that. Priceless.
lurker
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in my case they become to intimidated to look at me. i sued to think it as because i was ugly but then someone told me your goodlooking so im kind of cussed with my looks somehow. how can i make girls look past the looks and show im not an arrogant ****. i worked so hard on my body and it wouldnt be right if i act afcish like i used to 3 yrs ago.
staring at girls for me makes them uncomfortable they look down which makes it hard to do cold approaches.you average looking guys dont know how lucky you are.
staring at girls for me makes them uncomfortable they look down which makes it hard to do cold approaches.you average looking guys dont know how lucky you are.
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May have already been suggested but do a search on Triangular gazing
fastseduction runs the gamut on it.
fastseduction runs the gamut on it.
Centaurion
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Is that the one where you look at her left eye, right eye and then at her mouth?
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But how can you tell whether or not you can see the whites of her eyes unless you look at her?ARK said:
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Here's a good question:
You look at a girl, she looks at you - who should look away first?
usually, I get a bit anxious if I get stared back and avert my gase because I sort of feel like I'm on the spot for a smile or something. In fact, some seduction programs (like S&C) encourage you to look away as soon as a girl looks at you like you are offended by her, and then to look back again, and if she is staring at you, motion your two fingers to either eyes to make her aware she is looking at you, or really go for an approach.
You look at a girl, she looks at you - who should look away first?
usually, I get a bit anxious if I get stared back and avert my gase because I sort of feel like I'm on the spot for a smile or something. In fact, some seduction programs (like S&C) encourage you to look away as soon as a girl looks at you like you are offended by her, and then to look back again, and if she is staring at you, motion your two fingers to either eyes to make her aware she is looking at you, or really go for an approach.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Titanium how the hell do you know whether its ok to turn your head and completely stare or do the slight glance? Thats the problem it seems like there is no right answer.
D99 but in order to see if she turned around to look at you after she passed you have to turn around too. Do you reocmmend this?
D99 but in order to see if she turned around to look at you after she passed you have to turn around too. Do you reocmmend this?
Distant Light
Master Don Juan
Its nice you guys are talking about this cause i can bring up a point that I've seen infield with me and a friend. Everytime my friend eyes a girl the girl always like got this creepy look. He looks at there breast they cover up, he looks at there ass and they turn around he gets scared because he got caught lol.
Now everytime I do it I never get a creepy look most of the time i get strong EC. I look at a girls breast and some of them actually try to give me a better view. Ass I purposely look not caring if her bf seen or not. (WTF can he do?)
I had find out why is this happening to him and not me. Until one day on the train I seen a girl Massive breast and she was wearing a shirt that was making those babies almost slip out. In my head I was like O sh!t, but she end up going down the other steps. (Don't want to Sarge grown ladies yet until I'm 18) So now where on the train and my friend is standing up, that same girl walks past and I look at my friends face. He looks very needy, its like he is worshipping her breast. Then I realize that is why girls are covering up.
Me on the other hand I have internalized my bodylanguage that I had learnt and just relaxed. So when I did all my eye contact I'd have a little sly grin while look. Kind of a lucky that would say "If you qualify I just might take you home" But then after the first initial EC, if i don't plan on approaching then I'd go gunwitch with sexual state and Triangualr gazing. (I basically say I'm never going to see them again so might as well look at her body)
So now I'm just looking at her body not giving 2 sh!ts at who is looking at me and they never get freaked out. This one girl wearing some top that like seperates her breast bone area and the cloth is just covering her breast, she was 2 feet infront of me on the train and I briefly held EC with her at first until she looked away. Then I'd go gunwitch and triangular gaze and then I'd just look at her breast then look up at her then back down. (It didn't look robotic it looks natural when doing this) After that every girl that I don't approach I do that. Twice the girls purposely gave me a better view, covered up because it was so crowded and my afc friends were surrounding her she didn't like it. But when they pointed her out to me I did what I always do and then she end up bending over to do something and you can see those knockers. Another time train was turning and a girl 2 feet infront of me purposely moves her breast close to me and I move my head close to her breast, my nose was inches from touching her breast.
Don't be afraid to give EC just don't go about it by looking needy, just look first as disinterested but still looking at her as if your choosing whether you like her or not then your good to go.
Now everytime I do it I never get a creepy look most of the time i get strong EC. I look at a girls breast and some of them actually try to give me a better view. Ass I purposely look not caring if her bf seen or not. (WTF can he do?)
I had find out why is this happening to him and not me. Until one day on the train I seen a girl Massive breast and she was wearing a shirt that was making those babies almost slip out. In my head I was like O sh!t, but she end up going down the other steps. (Don't want to Sarge grown ladies yet until I'm 18) So now where on the train and my friend is standing up, that same girl walks past and I look at my friends face. He looks very needy, its like he is worshipping her breast. Then I realize that is why girls are covering up.
Me on the other hand I have internalized my bodylanguage that I had learnt and just relaxed. So when I did all my eye contact I'd have a little sly grin while look. Kind of a lucky that would say "If you qualify I just might take you home" But then after the first initial EC, if i don't plan on approaching then I'd go gunwitch with sexual state and Triangualr gazing. (I basically say I'm never going to see them again so might as well look at her body)
So now I'm just looking at her body not giving 2 sh!ts at who is looking at me and they never get freaked out. This one girl wearing some top that like seperates her breast bone area and the cloth is just covering her breast, she was 2 feet infront of me on the train and I briefly held EC with her at first until she looked away. Then I'd go gunwitch and triangular gaze and then I'd just look at her breast then look up at her then back down. (It didn't look robotic it looks natural when doing this) After that every girl that I don't approach I do that. Twice the girls purposely gave me a better view, covered up because it was so crowded and my afc friends were surrounding her she didn't like it. But when they pointed her out to me I did what I always do and then she end up bending over to do something and you can see those knockers. Another time train was turning and a girl 2 feet infront of me purposely moves her breast close to me and I move my head close to her breast, my nose was inches from touching her breast.
Don't be afraid to give EC just don't go about it by looking needy, just look first as disinterested but still looking at her as if your choosing whether you like her or not then your good to go.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Deus I hear what you are saying... but by ignorning the HB's or not looking at girls when they pass you in the eye..... HOW THE HELL DO YOU PICK THESE CHICKS UP?
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
I usually approach sometimes if its in a club, but never have in everyday life.
What is IOI?
What is IOI?
Heh, me too. One girl I ended up seeing said the first time she saw me walking down the street I looked like I was going to kill her. I figured if it's not broke, why fix it. Smiling at women I don't know isn't congruent with my personality, a nod if they're lucky. You have to earn a smile.PRMoon said:
Go out and experiment, and don't be too afraid of a girl 'freaking out' if you stare at them. You can look at whatever the **** you like. If they unconsciously lick their lips or adjust their hair, score a point. If they start running tone it down a little.
Distant Light has it right, it's all about YOU qualifying THEM, and you not making it obvious whether they have succeeded so they try harder.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
So you dont smile at them nighthawk? just look at them hard?
For a start I'm in London and strangers don't smile at each other in the street much here. If there was any interaction between us, then sure I'd display my winning charm but until then they can wonder what I am thinking when I check them out.
I'm not trying to look mean on purpose, I just look a bit scowly naturally, ha. If I'm in a really good mood I might be smiling or even singing a little, but mostly I prefer a poker-face. But that's just me, people should experiment with what's natural and what works for them.
I've also been experimenting further with Pavement Chicken
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102760
I'm not trying to look mean on purpose, I just look a bit scowly naturally, ha. If I'm in a really good mood I might be smiling or even singing a little, but mostly I prefer a poker-face. But that's just me, people should experiment with what's natural and what works for them.
I've also been experimenting further with Pavement Chicken
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102760
wunnaBsmooth
Don Juan
Jayer said:
Dude! IOI = Indicator Of Interest
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
mean looking faces don't attract chicks!