Sosuave Poll Scenario: Which girl would you choose to date

Which Girl would you choose to date

  • Scenario A

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  • Scenario C


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It's less about training and more about eliciting innately feminine traits, and it's not as hard as you seem to be thinking. Every woman has a sweet feminine side that she will show to specific people.
I want a girl who's feminine 24/7. I know some guys love the idea of "taming" a hardened women...eeck. Maybe it's not hard, but there's nothing appealing about that to me.

You don't like IPAs?
No one does.
 

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some posters think every girl is akin to the girls on the fresh and fit podcast.
The women who show up on panels on the Fresh & Fit podcast are far more likely to be OnlyFans and Instagram thots as compared to the general public of women.



Courtney Ryan has had some females from her social network on her channel. Her social network is a non-representative sample but some of the attitudes expressed by women in her social network share some overlap with the thots on Fresh & Fit panels.


 

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By default I'd pick option C because that one is a good choice. If she's still attractive and isn't weighing you down with baggage her being 34 isn't a problem.

For scenario B it depends on what fat means, I'd never choose B if fat means actually obese and gross like Lizzo or something. But I would be happy with a chubby girl that still looks good and makes it work.

Scenario A is the definition of recreational use only. You don't want to get into deadbeat daddy drama or end up paying for someone's child or be tied down to a woman who makes terrible decisions. But it would be fun to party and hookup with her on the weekends.
 

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some posters think every girl is akin to the girls on the fresh and fit podcast.
The criticism that I've noted for the fresh and fit or no jumper podcast girls is that they're often Miami thots. Instagram models, Onlyfans stars, girls who work in a night club or go there every weekend, etc.

It's a particular selection of women that isn't necessarily representative of any women that aren't strippers in a party city.

The women who show up on panels on the Fresh & Fit podcast are far more likely to be OnlyFans and Instagram thots as compared to the general public of women.



Courtney Ryan has had some females from her social network on her channel. Her social network is a non-representative sample but some of the attitudes expressed by women in her social network share some overlap with the thots on Fresh & Fit panels.


The fair criticism for Courtney Ryan's interviews is that a lot of her friends seem like they're very rich if you pay attention. Which skews their perception of wealth and expectations if they grew up on a million dollar ranch.
 

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If you’re fat and 23, and could be a legit dime, you should probably be living in conservatorship.

I roll the dice on a single 33 year old vs a 23 year old who should be hot but is fat.

The 33 year old is proven self sufficient, the 23 year old probably has mental health issues.
34*

This bastion of mental health and femininity is a 34 year old who couldn’t get a man to commit to her in 18 long years of sucking shlong and getting cream pied. No one of those men thought her worthy, but you guys do.

All fatty needs is to stop eating and start moving. The 34 year old come dumpster is finished, finito, done.
 

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This bastion of mental health and femininity is a 34 year old who couldn’t get a man to commit to her in 18 long years of sucking shlong and getting cream pied. No one of those men thought her worthy, but you guys do.

All fatty needs is to stop eating and start moving. The 34 year old come dumpster is finished, finito, done.
This is what I mean by living in the fresh and fit echochamber. It’s quite possible that she chose her career or something else over locking down some Chad or maybe she was in a LTR that didn’t pan out. Not every girl is a stripper or influencer in Miami lol.
You can easily gauge this in the beginning stages of the relationship.
 

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This bastion of mental health and femininity is a 34 year old who couldn’t get a man to commit to her in 18 long years of sucking shlong and getting cream pied. No one of those men thought her worthy, but you guys do.

All fatty needs is to stop eating and start moving. The 34 year old come dumpster is finished, finito, done.
I’m also going against the grain here.

I will take the 21 year old thicc girl any day of the week over the d1cked down toxic 34 year old. Especially if she is cute with a cool personality.
Thiccer girls have given me the most mental stimulating out of this earth BJs ever.
They want to make up for something and make you feel good simultaneously

At 21 she still has way more potential to be molded and I would take her azz to the gym with me.
Put her up on game.
I will also tummy tuck her if I gots to.
Here in Mexico I got the plug for that gastric tummy tuck.
Most importantly, She still has that feminine essence of her most fruitful 20s ahead of her.

The 34 year old attractive female has probably more mileage than a salvage car at the junk yard.
That feminine sparkle of pureness is dead and gone.
Just look at them in the eyes without make up on and you will know what I’m talking about.

Like a member around here once said..

“27 is truly the age where a woman's shelf life has ended, and she gets placed in the discount bin”
 
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Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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This is what I mean by living in the fresh and fit echochamber. It’s quite possible that she chose her career or something else over locking down some Chad or maybe she was in a LTR that didn’t pan out. Not every girl is a stripper or influencer in Miami lol.
You can easily gauge this in the beginning stages of the relationship.
That's a valid point. My argument against it (I voted B) is that by 34yrs old she's lost the feminine sparkle and has practically turned into a man with boobs and long hair. That's combined result of age and lack of masculine presence in her life to support and encourage her feminine side. If she was in an LTR or more that didn't pan out, she's got baggage ... who wants an aging, baggage carrying woman with a no divorce clause attached to her? :oops:
 

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The 33 year old is proven self sufficient, the 23 year old probably has mental health issues.
All 3 of Tom Cruise's wives divorced him when they were 33 because he wasn't "good enough".
 

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This bastion of mental health and femininity is a 34 year old who couldn’t get a man to commit to her in 18 long years of sucking shlong and getting cream pied. No one of those men thought her worthy, but you guys do.

All fatty needs is to stop eating and start moving. The 34 year old come dumpster is finished, finito, done.
Are you likely more right than you are wrong? Of course. Are you so probably right that you should be making the above statement? Probably not. These days it is probably easier than it’s ever been for an adult woman who felt empowered to advance in a career, move into their own property, and pick their suitor (maybe to the point of paralysis). In the old days maybe, it’s been the mission of both sides of the aisle as well as commercial interests to destroy the nuclear family, extend credit, ‘empower’ the marginalized, etc.

By all means, maybe you can nurse the 23 year old back to health, but at what cost? Are you going to have a good time with someone who’s been eating their ‘problems’ (whatever even that could be, save for a major catastrophe)? I know that I have an absolute ball with the girl I am seeing, who happens to be incredible with kids (not mine yet, but have seen plenty of interactions). Talk is cheap, but if you own property, follow through with character, and are genuinely fun to be with, that’s good for me. I just won’t get serious with a single mom, that’s the line for me personally.

One other question, aren’t you the guy who ripped a van’s windshield wipers off because he parked in front of your apartment building?
 
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All 3 of Tom Cruise's wives divorced him when they were 33 because he wasn't "good enough".
Let’s pretend for a moment that Tom Cruise isn’t the international spokesman for a cult.

You’re talking about three women that none of which are under a net worth of 8 figures, two of which are sex symbols, I am not sure that speaks to their mental instability as much as it does to his.

He was possibly the biggest sex symbol and popular talent since Clint Eastwood and he voluntarily submitted to a literal cult.
 
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I’m also going against the grain here.

I will take the 21 year old thicc girl any day of the week over the d1cked down toxic 34 year old. Especially if she is cute with a cool personality.
Thiccer girls have given me the most mental stimulating out of this earth BJs ever.
They want to make up for something and make you feel good simultaneously

At 21 she still has way more potential to be molded and I would take her azz to the gym with me.
Put her up on game.
I will also tummy tuck her if I gots to.
Here in Mexico I got the plug for that gastric tummy tuck.
Most importantly, She still has that feminine essence of her most fruitful 20s ahead of her.

The 34 year old attractive female has probably more mileage than a salvage car at the junk yard.
That feminine sparkle of pureness is dead and gone.
Just look at them in the eyes without make up on and you will know what I’m talking about.

Like a member around here once said..

“27 is truly the age where a woman's shelf life has ended, and she gets placed in the discount bin”
Do you actually believe this?

If you like fat chicks, that’s fine. Don’t pretend that a 34 year old inherently has lower worth than your 23 year old who doesn’t have enough emotional and mental constitution to drop the midnight snacking habit.

I would bet my commission check that my girls got better natural skin at 33 then whatever trash basket 23 year old you’re talking to does. Lack of care of oneself materializes in the skin and your girl, has stretch marks at the very least let alone any other derma impurities she’s carrying around (hi ass acne). So enjoy sweating your balls off with your girl in the park, if you head to the beach you may as well have a plane fly over with a banner proposing to her. I’m perfectly happy with my 33 year olds thong lifestyle, and the smooth ass and tight body going with it, thank you very much.


(Columbo moment)….

Who do you think is running full speed for the first c0ck she can get her snatch on in the above scenario?

Get serious dude.
 
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It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Option A is a big no-no.

Option B would be not a terrible choice if the percentage was higher, like a lot higher. 90-100%.

Option C is your best bet here but her prime is gone depending on your personal preferences.

Obvi, your scenarios are superficial and concise in detail so you know that a bit more context and detail on what she is like, does, have to offer, health status, mindset and healthy level of submission, etc. A woman past her 30s is pretty set in her ways and her independence. Most likely highly focused on her career, and refocused her affection/attention to a dog or the like. So the room for you in her life will be limited.
 

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if I didn’t have kids I would still go option c but in the real world I would be dating in the mid to lower 20’s. Good luck getting any chick with her head on right though under these conditions. I know for sure I could get high 20’s right now. I could have fvcked a 29 year old blonde dime like a month ago but I like my relationship. She knew I wasn’t divorced and 3 kids and she practically jumped on my hips. Then she proceeded to find me on Facebook a couple days later when I didn’t call.
 

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Do you actually believe this?

If you like fat chicks, that’s fine. Don’t pretend that a 34 year old inherently has lower worth than your 23 year old who doesn’t have enough emotional and mental constitution to drop the midnight snacking habit.

I would bet my commission check that my girls got better natural skin at 33 then whatever trash basket 23 year old you’re talking to does. Lack of care of oneself materializes in the skin and your girl, has stretch marks at the very least let alone any other derma impurities she’s carrying around (hi ass acne). So enjoy sweating your balls off with your girl in the park, if you head to the beach you may as well have a plane fly over with a banner proposing to her. I’m perfectly happy with my 33 year olds thong lifestyle, and the smooth ass and tight body going with it, thank you very much.


(Columbo moment)….

Who do you think is running full speed for the first c0ck she can get her snatch on in the above scenario?

Get serious dude.
Hey it's just a hypothetical, there is no definitive here.

I'm speaking as someone who HAS dated a 34 year old, and a 36 year old when I was 26 to 27. I am biased toward not dating older women as I've had 2 of my girlfriends older than me. Obviously the 34 year old in this scenario could be great value for an older man, but I'm 34 myself and can pull younger so I hedge my bets on training the 21 year old every time.
 

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Option B.

You can take her to the gym with you and get in shape.

34? Way too old be to be Sexy.
 

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Hey it's just a hypothetical, there is no definitive here.

I'm speaking as someone who HAS dated a 34 year old, and a 36 year old when I was 26 to 27. I am biased toward not dating older women as I've had 2 of my girlfriends older than me. Obviously the 34 year old in this scenario could be great value for an older man, but I'm 34 myself and can pull younger so I hedge my bets on training the 21 year old every time.
If she’s legit working through a trauma, I’d say of course there is an exception. But nobody absent a major catalyst should be out of shape at 23. It’s not normal.
 
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